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FXUS63 KDVN 252110  
AFDDVN  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE QUAD CITIES IA IL  
310 PM CST WED NOV 25 2009  
   
SYNOPSIS  
 
ANOTHER STRONG UPPER LOW WAS BEARING DOWN ON THE REGION THIS  
AFTERNOON...ON THE HEALS OF YESTERDAY/S RAINY SYSTEM EXITING OVER  
THE GREAT LAKES. OVER 140 METER HT FALLS WERE EVIDENT ON 12Z  
ANALYSIS AT H5 OVER EASTERN SD WITH THE STRENGTHENING LOW CENTERED  
OVER SW MN EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. A STRONG VORT WAS ROTATING AROUND  
THE BOTTOM OF THIS LOW ACROSS NRN MO WITH RESULTING FORCING AND  
UPPER DIFLUENCE PRODUCING A BROAD BAND OF LIGHT TO MODERATE RAIN  
ACROSS FAR EASTERN IA INTO NW MO EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. A DRY SLOT  
WAS EVIDENT JUST BEHIND THIS BAND... WITH ANOTHER AREA OF DEVELOPING  
PRECIPITATION ON DMX 88D IN THE FORM OF RAIN AND SNOW IN CENTRAL IA  
IN THE AREA OF PRIMARY AREA OF FORCING AHEAD OF MAIN SE MOVING UPPER  
VORT. AT THE SURFACE...THE PRIMARY LOW HAD SLOWED TO A NEAR  
STANDSTILL OVER NRN LAKE MI AT 18Z WITH A DEVELOPING TROUGH  
EXTENDING WEST ACROSS WI. AS THE APPROACHING FORCING TAPS INTO THE  
HIGHER MOISTURE WRAPPING AROUND THE H8 LOW OVER THE GREAT  
LAKES...PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED TO INTENSIFY AND OVERSPREAD MOST  
OF THE FORECAST AREA TONIGHT.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM...TONIGHT AND THURSDAY  
 
PRIMARY CHALLENGE IS PINNING DOWN THE TIMING OF THE TRANSITION FROM  
RAIN TO SNOW AND DETERMINING SNOW ACCUMULATIONS TONIGHT. WHILE UPPER  
LEVEL FORCING AND MID LEVEL INSTABILITY ARE IMPRESSIVE WITH THIS  
SYSTEM...THE LACK OF A STRONG PUSH OF ARCTIC AIR AND COMPLEX THERMAL  
AND MOISTURE FIELDS DUE TO THE INTERACTION WITH THE LOW OVER THE  
GREAT LAKES CONTINUE TO CREATE A CHALLENGING FORECAST.  
 
OF THE 12Z MODELS...GFS AND ECMWF HAD A BETTER INITIALIZATION OF H8  
TEMPERATURES OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS...WITH WRF/NAM LAGGING A BIT  
WITH THE -6 C CONTOUR IN THE COLD ADVECTION ACROSS THE DAKOTAS. THE  
HOWEVER...BY 18Z...THEY ALL APPEARED TO BE TOO FAST IN DROPPING  
THE UPPER LOW SOUTHWARD INTO NRN IA...WHICH APPEARED TO BE STILL  
CENTERED OVER FAR SW MN AT 20Z. THIS MAY DELAY THE ONSET OF THE  
PRECIPITATION THIS EVENING AND SLOW ITS EXIT ON THU...OTHERWISE...  
ONLY MINOR DIFFERENCES AMONG THE MODELS AND UTILIZED A BLEND.  
 
ISENTROPIC LIFT TIED CLOSELY TO THE CENTRAL IA PRECIP IS SHOWN  
RAPIDLY OVERSPREADING THE NW 2/3RDS OF THE CWA THIS EVENING. UPPER  
LEVEL FORCING REMAINS STRONGEST ALONG AND NORTH OF THE H5 LOW ACROSS  
EAST CENTRAL IA AND NW IL AROUND 06Z. THIS IS SHOWN ACCOMPANIED BY  
STEEP H5 TO H7 LAPSE RATES. SHOULD THUS SEE WIDESPREAD RAIN  
DEVELOPING THIS EVENING. COMPLICATING THE PHASE TRANSITION...  
A WARM TROUGH FROM THE SURFACE TO H8 ROTATING AROUND THE H8 GREAT  
LAKES LOW PUSHES SOUTH ACROSS WI INTO NW IL LATE TONIGHT. RESULTING  
LOW LEVEL...NEARLY SATURATED...ABOVE FREEZING AIRMASS WITH THIS  
FEATURE WILL LIKELY DELAY A COMPLETE CHANGEOVER AND KEEP A MIX GOING  
IN THE NORTH THROUGH MUCH OF THE NIGHT. THE INITIAL THRUST OF COLD  
AIR AT 925 AND 850 MB WILL BE STRONGEST ACROSS THE SOUTHERN CWA THIS  
EVENING...BUT FORCING THERE WILL BE MORE LIMITED.  
 
CONSIDERING THIS...AND INITIAL PAVEMENT/GROUND TEMPERATURES WELL  
INTO THE 40S...WILL COUNT ON AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF RAIN/SNOW MIX AND  
EVENTUAL CHANGE TO ALL SNOW OVERNIGHT. THIS SHOULD AMOUNT TO LITTLE  
MORE THAN A LIGHT ACCUMULATION ON GRASSY SURFACES MAINLY NORTH OF  
I-80 WHERE UPPER FORCING WILL BE STRONGEST. HAVE KEPT MENTION OF  
ACCUMULATIONS OF NEAR AN INCH ACROSS THE NW...MAINLY NW OF A LINE  
FROM WILLIAMSBURG TO DUBUQUE...WHERE CHANGE TO ALL SNOW WILL OCCUR  
EARLIEST AND LOW LEVEL THERMAL FIELDS ARE MORE SUPPORTIVE.  
 
THANKSGIVING WILL HAVE LIGHT SNOW IN THE EAST EXITING EARLY. COULD  
SEE SOME TRACE TO DUSTING AMOUNTS AFTER SUNRISE EAST OF THE MS  
RIVER. OTHERWISE...CYCLONIC FLOW GIVES WAY TO RIDGING BY EVENING  
WITH LINGERING CLOUDS AND WET GROUND HOLDING TEMPERATURES IN THE  
UPPER 30S TO LOWER 40S.  
..SHEETS..  
 
   
LONG TERM...THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH NEXT WEDNESDAY  
THURSDAY NIGHT  
THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT WILL BE QUIET WITH THE LARGE UPPER TROF WELL  
EAST OF THE AREA AND UPPER RIDGE BUILDING OVER THE PLAINS. A NARROW  
SURFACE RIDGE WILL MOVE THROUGH THE MID MS VALLEY THURSDAY NIGHT  
WHICH WILL AIDE RADIATIONAL COOLING. BUT BOTH THE NAM AND GFS  
DEVELOP MID LEVEL WAA RH/CLOUDS OVER THE AREA LATE THURSDAY NIGHT  
WHICH SHOULD STOP OR AT LEAST SLOW THE DROP IN TEMPERATURES. SO THE  
WARMER MAV GUIDANCE WAS FAVORED FOR MIN TEMPS THURSDAY NIGHT. USED  
THE EXPECTED MIXING DEPTH AROUND H925 AS A BASIS FOR MAX TEMPS  
MAINLY IN THE 40S FOR FRIDAY. THE SHALLOW MIXING DEPTH LOOKED  
REASONABLE WITH WEAK SLY WINDS DEVELOPING BEHIND THE DEPARTING  
RIDGE. WINDS WILL STILL BE LIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY EVENING OVER THE  
EASTERN CWA TO AIDE RADIATIONAL COOLING...SO FAVORED THE COLDER  
GUIDANCE THERE AND WENT CLOSE TO OR JUST ABOVE THE WARMER MAV  
NUMBERS IN THE SW WITH STRONGER SLY WINDS LIMITING THE DROP IN TEMPS.  
 
FOR SATURDAY INTO MONDAY THE MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH A NRN  
STREAM TROF MOVING INTO THE PACIFIC NW AND DEEPENING AS IT CROSSES  
THE ROCKIES WHILE ENERGY IN THE SRN STREAM FORMS A CLOSED LOW OVER  
SRN CA/NRN MEX BY SUNDAY. THE NRN STREAM TROF WILL DRAG COLD FRONT  
THROUGH THE REGION SATURDAY NIGHT WITH MODELS SHOWING SOME LIGHT  
POST FRONTAL PCPN SUNDAY INTO MONDAY. TEMPS LOOK COLD ENOUGH TO  
SUPPORT RN OR RN/SN MIX CHANGING TO ALL -SN BY SUNDAY NIGHT.  
 
THERE IS STILL A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY FOR TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY AS THE  
SWRN U.S. UPPER LOW LIFTS NE AHEAD OF ANOTHER S/W DIGGING OVER THE  
CENTRAL AND NRN ROCKIES. THE GFS SHOWS THE SWRN U.S. ENERGY LIFTING  
ALMOST DUE N THROUGH MS VALLEY WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY GIVING US  
WIDESPREAD PCPN. SINCE THE REGION WOULD BE ON THE COLD SIDE OF THE  
SYSTEM THIS WOULD LIKE BE MAINLY SNOW. HOWEVER THE ECMWF CONTINUES  
TO TAKE A MORE NELY TRACK WITH THIS ENERGY LEAVING THE MID/UPPER MS  
VALLEY DRY THROUGH MID WEEK. HAVE LEANED TOWARD THE ECMWF GUIDANCE  
WHICH HAS BEEN CONSISTENT THE LAST COUPLE OF RUNS AND IS IN LINE  
WITH HPC GUIDANCE...KEEPING THE REGION DRY TUESDAY THROUGH  
THURSDAY. TEMPS THROUGH THE PERIOD LOOK NEAR NORMAL FOR EARLY  
DECEMBER. ...DLF...  
 
 
   
AVIATION  
 
POTENT UPPER LOW MOVING SE THROUGH ERN IA AND CENTRAL IL WILL SPREAD  
A MIX OF PRECIPITATION OVER AREA THE REST OF THIS AFTERNOON AND  
TONIGHT. WIDESPREAD MVFR/LOWER VFR CONDITIONS THIS AFTERNOON WILL  
DETERIORATE TO MAINLY IFR CIGS/VSBYS THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT IN A  
MIX OF RN/SN BECOMING ALL -SN. THE TAFS INDICATE A FASTER CHANGE  
FORM RN TO SN THAN THE 12Z NAM/GFS SUGGESTS. THIS QUICKER CHANGE  
WAS SUPPORTED BY THE NAM/GFS NOT CAPTURING THE SRN EXTENT OF THE  
COLDEST AIR OVER THE NRN PLAINS THIS MORNING. ALSO THE GFS/MAV  
GUIDANCE WAS SEVERAL HOURS BEHIND WITH THE CHANGE FROM RN TO SN  
OVER NW IA LATE THIS MORNING. THERE IS POTENTIAL THAT KCID/KDBQ  
COULD SEE A PERIOD OF TWO OF LIFR VSBYS/CIGS IN MOD SN BETWEEN 03Z  
AND 09Z BUT CONFIDENCE IS NOT GREAT ENUF TO INCLUDE IN THE TAF AT  
THIS TIME. BY THURSDAY MORNING CONDITIONS WILL IMPROVE TO MAINLY  
MVFR AS -SN ENDS FROM W TO E. EXPECT NW WINDS TO INCREASE THIS  
EVENING WITH GUSTS BTWN 20 AND 25KTS AT ALL TAFS SITES EXPECTED  
OVERNIGHT.    
..DLF  
 
 
   
DVN WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
IA...NONE.  
IL...NONE.  
MO...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
 
SHEETS/DLF  
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