478  
FXUS63 KDVN 071943  
AFDDVN  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE QUAD CITIES IA IL  
243 PM CDT SUN SEP 7 2008  
   
SYNOPSIS  
 
BROAD UPPER TROF WITH SEVERAL EMBEDDED S/W/S REMAINS OVER MUCH OF  
THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE U.S. TODAY. A COUPLE OF THE S/WS WERE  
LOCATED UPSTREAM FROM THE MID MS VALLEY THIS MORNING. THE FIRST  
WAS MOVING THROUGH MN EARLY THIS AFTERNOON AND WAS PRODUCING SOME  
ISOLATED TO SCT TSRA OVER NORTH CENTRAL IA. THE SECOND AND MORE  
POTENT WAVE WAS OVER WRN MONTANA. AT THE SURFACE TEMPS HAVE WARMED  
NICELY INTO THE UPPER 60S AND LOW 70S THIS AFTERNOON AHEAD OF A  
WEAK COLD FRONT OVER NW IA.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM...TONIGHT AND MONDAY  
 
MODELS ARE IN DECENT AGREEMENT WITH MODERATE PCPN EVENT OVER THE  
CWFA TOMORROW. ABOUT THE ONLY QUESTION IS WHERE THE AXIS OF  
HEAVIER QPF WILL SET UP. FOR TONIGHT WILL CONTINUE TO CARRY SOME  
LOW POPS FOR ISOLATED TSRA/RW-- OVER THE FAR NORTH BEFORE  
MIDNIGHT. CURRENT TSRA OVER NCNTRL IA APPEARS TO BE TRACKING A  
LITTLE N OF E WHICH SHOULD KEEP IT JUST NORTH OF THE  
CWFA...BARRING ANY MORE DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH. OTHER SCT SHRA  
OVER WEST CENTRAL AND SW IA APPEAR TO BE JUST VIRGA BASED ON THE  
LACK OF ANY PCPN BEING REPORTED SO FAR. WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR  
FOR THE NEED TO EXPAND PCPN AREA FURTHER SOUTH. S/W DROPPING  
THROUGH WRN MT THIS AFTERNOON IS PROGGED TO SPIN UP A SURFACE LOW  
ALONG THE FRONT CURRENTLY FROM NW IA INTO SWRN NE. THE LOW IS  
FORECAST TO LIFT ENE THROUGH NRN MO AND CENTRAL IL MONDAY. THE  
MODELS HAVE ALL BACKED OFF SOME ON THE TIMING AND ARE NOW  
FAVORING A LATE NIGHT ONSET OF THE PCPN SPREADING FROM THE FAR SW  
JUST BEFORE 12Z TO THE NERN CWFA BY LATE MORNING. BASED ON PW/S  
AROUND A HALF INCH AND MODERATE FORCING THANKS TO A 40 TO 50KT H8  
JET AHEAD OF THE H8 LOW...EXPECT TO SEE MAX RAINFALL AMOUNTS IN  
THE 1.0 TO 1.5 INCH RANGE BY LATE MONDAY. HAVE GONE WITH AN AXIS  
OF MAX QPF SLIGHTLY SOUTH OF THE NAM/GFS PLACEMENT DUE TO THE  
LOCATION OF THE STRONGER LOW LEVEL FORCING AND WITH THE STEEPER  
MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES OVER SOUTHERN IA AND NRN MO...ESPECIALLY  
MONDAY MORNING. MOST OF THE THUNDER SHOULD BE ALONG AND SOUTH OF  
THE HWY 34 WHERE THE LOW LEVEL FORCING WILL BE STRONGEST. FURTHER  
NORTH IN THE MORE STABLE AIR...EXPECT MAINLY STRATIFORM RAIN WITH  
EMBEDDED THUNDER. SEVERE THREAT LOOKS MARGINAL SINCE AIRMASS  
SHOULD SATURATE QUICKLY DURING THE MORNING. IF THERE ARE ANY  
SEVERE STORMS THE MAIN THREAT WOULD BE LARGE HAIL. THE RAIN  
SHOULD KEEP TEMPS DOWN MONDAY. AREAS IN THE WEST WHERE THE RAIN  
WILL BEGIN AROUND SUNRISE MAY NOT RISE OUT OF THE 50S WHILE LOW TO  
MID 60S ARE EXPECTED OVER THE REST OF THE CWA.   
..DLF  
 
   
LONG TERM...MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH NEXT SUNDAY  
 
A REASONABLY ACTIVE PATTERN WILL CONTINUE WITH TEMPERATURES  
REMAINING BELOW NORMAL. A BLEND OF THE ECMWF/UKMET IS PREFERRED.  
 
RAIN WILL END FROM WEST TO EAST MONDAY NIGHT AS THE SFC WAVE PULLS  
OUT OF THE AREA. MIN TEMPERATURES TO BE DEPENDENT UPON HOW FAST THE  
CLOUDS MOVE EAST OF THE AREA BUT EXPECT THE FAR NORTHWEST/WEST TO BE  
THE COLDEST BY TUESDAY MORNING.  
 
TUESDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY WILL BE QUIET AND COOL AS HIGH PRESSURE  
MOVES ACROSS THE REGION. THERMAL TROF MOVING THROUGH ON TUESDAY WILL  
KEEP TEMPERATURES IN THE 60S. FAVORED COLD AREAS IN THE NORTHEAST  
CWFA AND WAPSI VALLEY MAY SEE MINS NEAR 40 TUESDAY NIGHT. RETURN  
FLOW IS SLOW TO DEVELOP ON WEDNESDAY SO THE DAYLIGHT HOURS SHOULD  
REMAIN DRY.  
 
WED NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT THE NEXT SFC WAVE WILL MOVE THROUGH  
THE REGION. BEST PRECIP CHANCES APPEAR TO BE ON THURSDAY AS THE SFC  
WAVE AND COLD FRONT MOVE THROUGH THE AREA.  
 
FRIDAY ON GETS MORE COMPLICATED. THE WILD CARD WILL BE WHERE IKE  
GOES. DPROG/DT OF THE GLOBAL MODELS INDICATE THE ECMWF HAS BEEN TO  
SLOW DOWN THE PROGRESS OF THE FRONT THAT MOVES THROUGH  
THURSDAY/THURSDAY EVENING WHILE AT THE SAME TIME MOVING IKE FURTHER  
WEST. IF THE ECMWF TRENDS ARE CORRECT...IKE WOULD MAKE LANDFALL ON  
THE SOUTHEAST TEXAS COAST WHICH WOULD CAUSE THE THURSDAY COLD FRONT  
TO STALL JUST TO THE SOUTH AND EAST OF THE CWFA. ASSUMING THIS  
HAPPENS...PRECIP MAY LINGER INTO FRIDAY BEFORE ENDING.  
SATURDAY/SUNDAY ARE EXTREMELY DEPENDENT ON WHERE IKE GOES. FOR NOW  
WILL GO WITH THE IDEA THAT ANOTHER SFC WAVE MOVES THROUGH THE AREA  
ON SATURDAY BRINGING ANOTHER ROUND OF RAIN AND GO WITH SILENT 20  
POPS FOR SUNDAY TO ACCOUNT FOR THE UNCERTAINTY OF IKE. ...08...  
 
 
   
AVIATION  
 
VFR CONDITIONS WITH LIGHT SW-W WINDS ARE EXPECTED THIS EVENING.  
CIGS AROUND 5-6KFT SHOULD SPREAD OVER THE AREA BY 06Z. SCATTERED  
SHRA WITH ISOLATED TSRA MAY MOVE CLOSE TO KCID AND KDBQ BTWN 21Z  
AND 03Z. SFC WINDS WILL GRADUALLY TURN TO THE NE OVERNIGHT AHEAD  
OF A SURFACE LOW MOVING NE OUT OF KS. CONDITIONS DETERIORATING  
AFTER 09Z WITH WIDESPREAD MVFR CIGS/VSBYS IN LIGHT TO MODERATE  
RAIN BY 15Z MONDAY. AREAS OF IFR CONDITIONS WILL BE POSSIBLE SOUTH  
BY LATE MORNING. BETWEEN 14Z AND 18Z SCT TSRA WILL IMPACT KBRL  
WITH ISOLATED TSRA POSSIBLE AT KMLI/KCID/KDBQ.  
 
 
   
DVN WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
IA...NONE.  
IL...NONE.  
MO...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
DLF/08  
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