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FXUS63 KICT 210036  
AFDICT  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WICHITA KS  
636 PM CST FRI NOV 20 2009  
   
AVIATION  
00Z TAFS KRSL/KSLN/KHUT/KICT/KCNU  
 
GIVEN RATHER POOR MODEL PERFORMANCE THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS...NOT  
OPTIMISTIC ABOUT ACCURACY OF DETAILS WITH THIS FORECAST. 1800 UTC  
NORTH AMERICAN MODEL APPEARS TO BE OFF TO A BETTER START...ALTHOUGH  
A BIT LACKING IN BOUNDARY LAYER ACROSS NE OK WHERE SOME IFR CEILINGS/DRIZZLE  
ARE OCCURRING. AT FACE VALUE IT WOULD SUGGEST LOWEST CONDITIONS  
ALONG WESTERN THIRD OF FORECAST AREA TOMORROW MORNING. LOW IFR WOULD  
BE LIKELY IF NORTH AMERICAN MODEL IS CORRECT AT KRSL/KHUT/KICT BUT  
WOULD NOT DEVELOP UNTIL AFTER SUNRISE. CONDITIONS ARE NOT LIKELY  
TO IMPROVE UNTIL AT LEAST 1800 UTC WHEN INCREASING LOW LEVEL WINDS  
SHOULD ALLOW MORE MIXING. -HOWERTON  
 
 
   
PREV DISCUSSION  
/ISSUED 312 PM CST FRI NOV 20 2009/  
 
DISCUSSION...  
 
MAIN FORECAST CONCERNS ARE DENSE FOG LIKELIHOOD TONIGHT AND  
PRECIPITATION CHANCES MONDAY INTO TUESDAY.  
 
SYNOPSIS:  
AN UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM IS SLOWLY MOVING ACROSS TEXAS...AND STRATUS  
AND FOG ARE PERSISTING OVER MUCH OF OKLAHOMA. OVER SOUTH CENTRAL  
KANSAS...THE NORTHERLY WINDS ARE CONTINUING TO BRING SLIGHTLY DRIER  
AIR TO THE REGION AND CLOUDS ARE DISSIPATING SOON AFTER MOVING NORTH  
OF THE OKLAHOMA BORDER.  
 
REMAINDER OF THIS AFTERNOON:  
WITH CURRENT TRENDS IN BOTH RADAR AND VIS SATELLITE...REMOVED PRECIP  
CHANCES FOR SE KANSAS FOR THE REST OF THE DAY. WITH MOISTURE  
TRANSPORT STRONGER OVER EASTERN OK/WESTERN AR EXPECT THE MAIN BULK  
OF PRECIP TO STAY DOWN THERE. WITH NORTHERLY COMPONENT IN THE  
WINDS...CLOUDS HAVE REMAIN NEAR THE KS/OK BORDER. WITH SUBSIDENCE  
MOVING ACROSS KS...EXPECT CLOUDS TO REMAIN MOSTLY OUT OF THE  
FORECAST AREA. TWEAKED TEMPERATURES TO ACCOUNT FOR CURRENT TRENDS.  
 
DUNTEN  
 
TONIGHT-SUNDAY:  
SURFACE WINDS ARE GOING TO BECOME EASTERLY AND THEN SOUTHERLY  
TONIGHT AND INTO SATURDAY MORNING...WHICH WILL BRING MOISTURE INTO  
THE AREA. FORECAST SOUNDINGS SATURATE QUICKLY AROUND 9Z...AND ARE  
SATURATED FROM THE SURFACE TO ABOUT 750MB. FROM 9Z TO ABOUT  
15Z...SOUNDINGS SHOW A STEEP INVERSION RIGHT NEAR THE SURFACE. AN  
ADVECTION TYPE FOG SCENARIO IS LIKELY WITH THESE CONDITIONS. THE  
QUESTION IS HOW WIDESPREAD WILL DENSE FOG BE ACROSS THE AREA.  
CONFIDENCE IS HIGHEST OVER SOUTH CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST KANSAS...SO  
WE WILL ISSUE A DENSE FOG ADVISORY FOR THAT AREA AT THIS POINT AND  
THEN LET LATER SHIFTS EXPAND IF NECESSARY.  
 
THE DENSE FOG SHOULD TRANSITION TO NON-DENSE FOG ACROSS THE ADVISORY  
AREA AROUND MID-MORNING...AND SPRINKLES WILL BE POSSIBLE AS WELL.  
WILL KEEP THAT MENTION ACROSS MUCH OF THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE  
FORECAST AREA THROUGH MUCH OF THE DAY.  
 
TEMPERATURES WILL BE UNSEASONABLY WARM THROUGH THE WEEKEND...WITH  
HIGHS IN THE 50S AND LOWER 60S.  
 
SCHRECK  
 
MONDAY-TUESDAY:  
AM FOLLOWING THE EUROPEAN MODEL ON THE TIMING OF THE UPPER LEVEL  
TROUGH AND CORRESPONDING SURFACE FRONT. BIG QUESTION WILL REMAIN THE  
AMOUNT OF MOISTURE THE SYSTEM WILL HAVE TO WORK WITH. MAINTAINED  
SLIGHT CHANCES OF SHOWERS FOR MONDAY AND INTO TUESDAY. MONDAY NIGHT  
COULD SEE A MIXTURE OF RAIN AND SNOW ALONG AND NORTH OF I-70. THE  
UPPER LEVEL LOW IS EXPECTED TO BE CENTERED IN THE VICINITY OF IOWA  
BY TUESDAY AFTERNOON. BEING ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE LOW SHOULD RESULT  
THIS BEING OUR COOLEST DAY OF THE FORECAST PERIOD WITH HIGHS  
STRUGGLING TO GET OUT OF THE 40S...ESPECIALLY IN CENTRAL KANSAS.  
 
WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY:  
WEATHER LOOKS GOOD FOR HOLIDAY TRAVELERS WITH AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE  
MOVING OUT OF THE ROCKIES AND INTO THE PLAINS BY THE END OF THE  
WEEK. TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO BE NEAR SEASONAL WITH DRY  
CONDITIONS.  
 
RHE  
 
AVIATION...18Z TAFS KRSL/KSLN/KHUT/KICT/KCNU  
 
MAIN FOCUS WILL CONTINUE TO BE RETURN MOISTURE ACROSS MOST OF THE  
AREA THIS AFTERNOON INTO TONIGHT...AS BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE  
CONTINUES TO DEEPEN AND STREAM NORTH INTO THE AREA. INITIALLY THIS  
LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL BRING MVFR CEILINGS INTO KICT AND KHUT IN  
THE NEXT FEW HOURS.  
 
NEXT CONCERN WILL BE THIS MOISTURE CONTINUING TO STREAM NORTH INTO  
CENTRAL KS LATE TONIGHT INTO EARLY ON SAT. CERTAINLY HAVE SOME  
CONCERNS IN MOST LOCATIONS ABOUT FOG WITH MVFR VISIBILITIES POSSIBLY  
IFR FOG MOVING INTO THE AREA AFTER 06Z/SAT. COULD ALSO SEE SOME IFR  
CEILINGS MOVE INTO THE AREA AS WELL...AS MOISTURE BUILDS DOWN TO THE  
SURFACE WITH A POSSIBLE STRATUS BUILD DOWN SITUATION DEVELOPING.  
WILL CERTAINLY HAVE TO WATCH THE KICT/KHUT AND KCNU TAF SITES FOR  
THE 10-14Z/SAT TIME FRAME AS VISIBILITIES COULD BECOME LIFR. WILL  
LET LATER TAF ISSUANCES LOOK AT THIS CHANCE.  
 
KETCHAM  
 
 
   
PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS  
 
WICHITA-KICT 41 59 43 56 / 0 10 10 10  
HUTCHINSON 39 57 41 55 / 0 10 10 10  
NEWTON 42 57 42 54 / 0 10 10 10  
ELDORADO 40 58 41 56 / 0 10 10 10  
WINFIELD-KWLD 45 62 43 57 / 10 10 10 10  
RUSSELL 32 58 38 54 / 0 10 10 10  
GREAT BEND 33 57 37 53 / 0 10 10 10  
SALINA 37 56 42 56 / 0 10 10 20  
MCPHERSON 39 57 42 56 / 0 10 10 10  
COFFEYVILLE 47 59 43 62 / 10 20 10 10  
CHANUTE 44 57 44 62 / 10 20 10 10  
IOLA 43 56 43 60 / 10 20 10 10  
PARSONS-KPPF 45 58 43 62 / 10 20 10 10  
 
 
   
ICT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
DENSE FOG ADVISORY FROM 3 AM TO 9 AM CST SATURDAY FOR KSZ067>072-  
082-083-091>096-098>100.  
 
 
 
 
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