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FXUS63 KIWX 090542  
AFDIWX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORTHERN INDIANA  
1242 AM EST MON NOV 9 2009  
   
AVIATION
 
 
LOW PRES OVER WI WILL MOVE RAPIDLY NE TODAY WITH TRAILING CDFNT  
MOVG EAST ACROSS THE AREA THIS AFTN. WINDS INCRSG AHEAD OF THE  
FRONT THIS MORNING WITH WOLCOTT PROFILER SHOWING 40KT AROUND 2KFT  
IN PAST HR. WITH SOME DECOUPLING OVERNIGHT THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR  
LLWS AND HAVE ADDED TO TAFS. CIRRUS STREAMING NEWD INTO THE AREA  
ALONG WITH CONTD MIXING DUE TO S-SW GRADIENT...SHOULD LIMIT  
RADIATIONAL COOLING OVERNIGHT THUS REMOVED BR FROM FCST.  
CONVERGENCE ALONG FRONT MAY SUPPORT SOME LOW CLOUDS BUT SHOULD  
REMAIN VFR THROUGH THE PD.  
 

 
   
PREV DISCUSSION
 
/ISSUED 1128 PM EST SUN NOV 8 2009/  
 
UPDATE...  
S-SW WINDS PICKING UP LATE THIS EVE...ESPECIALLY NR LM AS LOW  
PRESSURE MOVG NE INTO WI WITH WITH TRAILING CDFNT MOVG EAST ACROSS  
IA. UPDATED NSH WINDS TO INCREASE TO JUST BLO SCA CRITERIA. LAND  
WIND GRIDS IN 5-15MPH RANGE STILL LOOK GOOD AND NO CHANGES MADE,  
HWVR, DID REMOVE MENTION OF FOG FROM THE GRIDS AS APPEARS THERE  
WILL BE SUFFICIENT MIXING AND INCRSG CIRRUS TO PREVENT SGFNT VSBY  
RESTRICTIONS LATE TONIGHT OR EARLY MONDAY.  
 
PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 640 PM EST SUN NOV 8 2009/  
 
AVIATION...  
 
SATELLITE SHOWING SCT CIRRUS TO OUR SOUTHWEST MOVING THIS WAY. THESE  
HIGH CLOUDS COUPLED WITH A LIGHT SOUTHERLY WIND OVERNIGHT SHOULD  
HELP LIMIT BR FORMATION. CONDITIONS STILL WARRANT CONTINUING WITH  
MVFR CONDITIONS. WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY APPROACHES ON MONDAY WITH  
INCREASING AND LOWERING CLOUDS THROUGH THE DAY. MOISTURE LIMITED SO  
JUST BROUGHT CIGS DOWN TO LOW END VFR FOR NOW BY END OF PERIOD. WIND  
SHIFT WILL ALSO ACCOMPANY THIS FRONT IN THE AFTERNOON.  
 
SHORT TERM...  
 
SECOND HALF OF A BEAUTIFUL WEEKEND TODAY AS LAST NIGHTS WEAK FRONTAL  
BOUNDARY HAS LIFTED BACK NORTH RESUMING WARM SW FLOW ALLOWING TEMPS  
TO RISE NEAR 70 ACROSS THE CWA. 12Z MODELS INDICATING SOME VERY DRY  
AIR ALOFT WITH DEWPOINT DEPRESSIONS ABOVE H7 AOA 30C WRAPPING  
INTO THE REGION WITH THE LAST GASP OF RIDGING OVER THE SOUTHEAST.  
THIS SHOULD PRECLUDE ANYTHING BUT HIGH CLOUDS TONIGHT AND WITH XOVER  
TEMPS EVEN HIGHER IN THE LOW 50S FEEL THAT SOME PATCHY FOG  
DEVELOPMENT IS POSSIBLE ALTHOUGH THE PRESENCE OF GRADIENT WINDS...  
SOMEWHAT LESS MOISTURE IN THE NEAR SFC LAYER...AND POSSIBILITY OF  
CIRRUS MAKING HEADWAY INTO THE REGION SHOULD MITIGATE THE MORE DENSE  
VARIETY WE SAW THIS MORNING. ADDITIONALLY DEEPER MOISTURE WILL  
POTENTIALLY ARRIVE JUST BEFORE DAWN IN THE WEST PUTTING A CLAMP ON  
TEMPERATURE DROP .  
 
SFC LOW PRESSURE TO OUR NW TODAY WILL RAPIDLY PROGRESS THROUGH  
SOUTHERN QUEBEC TO THE CANADIAN ATLANTIC COAST THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT  
TRAILING A LONG COLD FRONT THAT BECOMES SLOW MOVING AS UPPER FLOW  
LARGELY PARALLELS THE BOUNDARY THROUGH THE PERIOD. RESULTANT LOW  
LEVEL CONVERGENCE ASSOC WITH FRONTAL PASSAGE IS UNIMPRESSIVE AND  
INSTABILITY AHEAD OF THE FRONT ON MONDAY AFT/EVENING IS SIMILARLY  
PALE WITH LI/S OF -1/-2 AND MUCAPES AOB 200J/KG. ADDITIONALLY BUFR  
SOUNDINGS SHOW CONSIDERABLE WARM AIR ALOFT TRASHING LAPSE RATES.  
WILL THEREFORE NOT INTRODUCE THUNDER WORDING...AND CONTINUE THE  
GOING TREND OF POPS FROM NW TO SE ALONG AND POST-FRONTAL AS LOW  
LEVELS ATTEMPT TO SATURATE WITHIN MODEST MOISTURE INCREASE WITH  
PASSAGE OF THE FRONT. MINOR ADJUSTMENTS MADE TO POPS BASED ON 12Z  
MODEL TIMING BUT THE GENERAL APPROACH REMAINS INTACT.  
 
LONG TERM /TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/...  
 
CONFIDENCE IS STARTING TO WANE FOR THE EXTENDED FORECAST AS THE  
MOVEMENT AND EVENTUAL EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION OF IDA THIS WEEK WILL  
PLAY A STRONG ROLE IN AUGMENTING THE DOWNSTREAM FLOW PATTERN WITH  
RAMIFICATIONS IN THIS AREA. THIS LOSS OF CONFIDENCE IS SHOWN WELL  
IN THE GEFS RMOP GRAPHICS...WHICH FROM LAST NIGHT/S 00Z SIMULATION  
SHOW LESS THAN A 20 PERCENT PROBABILITY OF THE GEFS MEAN FORECAST  
VERIFYING BY THE END OF THE PERIOD. BELIEVE THAT THE MAIN IMPACT OF  
IDA WILL LIKELY BE TO SLOW DOWN THE UPSTREAM FLOW PATTERN AS BOTH  
THE GFS/ECMWF SHOW A PRETTY INTENSE CUT OFF LOW FORMING OFF THE  
EASTERN US COAST BY THE WEEKEND.  
 
OUTSIDE OF IDA...THE CORE OF LOW HEIGHT ANOMALIES OVER EASTERN  
SIBERIA WILL MOVE EAST...TAKING UP RESIDENCE OVER ALASKA. THIS WILL  
PUSH A LOW HEIGHT ANOMALY CURRENTLY OVER THE GULF OF ALASKA INTO THE  
WESTERN NOAM...WITH IT/S EASTWARD PROGRESS TOWARDS OUR AREA IMPEDED  
BY THE ABOVE MENTIONED IMPACTS OF IDA.  
 
FRONT PASSING TO START THE PERIOD WILL TAKE ON A ANA-FRONT STRUCTURE  
WITH CONTINUED LIFT WELL BEHIND THE LLEVEL FRONTAL BOUNDARY. GIVEN  
THIS STRUCTURE...AND THE INCREASED AMOUNT OF DOWNSTREAM  
BLOCKING...EXPANDED TUESDAY AFTERNOON POPS NORTH AND WEST...AND THIS  
TREND MAY HAVE TO BE FURTHERED BY LATER SHIFTS. CLOUDS/PRECIP  
CHANCES WILL ALSO KEEP TEMPS DOWN...AND WILL CONTINUE CONSERVATIVE  
HIGH TEMP FORECAST...WITH TEMPS IN THE LOWER/MIDDLE 50S...A LITTLE  
BELOW FULLY MIXED T92 VALUES.  
 
THE NICE STRETCH OF MID/LATE WEEK WEATHER STILL APPEARS TO BE IN  
TACT WITH SURFACE RIDGING BUILDING IN FOR THE WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY TIME  
PERIOD. TEMPS WEDNESDAY WILL NOT REBOUND EVEN WITH MORE SUN AS COLD  
ADVECTION ON THE WESTERN FLANK OF DEVELOPING EAST COAST CUTOFF WILL  
LOWER T92 TO AROUND 3C. BY THURSDAY AND FRIDAY...EXPECT MODERATING  
TEMPERATURES AS RIDGING ALOFT SHOULD BEGIN BUILDING IN FROM THE WEST  
AND ALLOW TEMPS ALOFT TO REBOUND. HIGHS IN THE MID/UPPER 50S LOOK  
GOOD GIVEN T92 7-8C.  
 
BY NEXT WEEKEND...WESTERN CONUS TROUGHING SHOULD CONTINUE TO SLOWLY  
TRUDGE EAST...GIVEN PERSISTENT WESTERLY FLOW UPSTREAM SOUTH OF THE  
ALASKA LOW HEIGHT ANOMALY. HOWEVER...GIVEN THE DOWNSTREAM BLOCKING  
INFLUENCE OF IDA OR IT/S REMNANTS...EXPECT THAT IT WILL TAKE MOST OF  
THE WEEKEND FOR ANY FRONTAL SYSTEM TO REACH OUR AREA. THEREFORE...  
WILL KEEP SATURDAY DRY...BUT INTRODUCE CHC POPS SATURDAY  
NIGHT/SUNDAY. CERTAINLY LOW CONFIDENCE AT THIS RANGE...BUT GIVEN  
THE PROXIMITY OF THE TROUGH...BELIEVE POPS AT OR ABOVE CLIMO /ABOUT  
30 PERCENT AT SBN-FWA / ARE WARRANTED. WILL CONTINUE TEMPS ABOVE  
CLIMO SATURDAY...AND THEN TREND TO JUST ABOVE CLIMO SUNDAY GIVEN  
UNCERTAINTY IN THE TIMING OF THE ARRIVING TROUGH. THIS YIELDS MID  
50S FOR HIGHS SATURDAY...AND LOWER 50S SUNDAY.  
 

 
   
IWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
IN...NONE.  
MI...NONE.  
OH...NONE.  
LM...NONE.  

 
 

 
 
SHORT TERM...LUDINGTON  
LONG TERM...ARNOTT  
AVIATION...JT  
UPDATE...JT  
 
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