584  
FXUS63 KIWX 220849  
AFDIWX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORTHERN INDIANA  
349 AM EST SUN NOV 22 2009  
   
SHORT TERM
 
 
   
..TODAY THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT
 
 
RELATIVELY QUIET SHORT TERM PERIOD BEFORE MORE ACTIVE PATTERN BEGINS  
TO AFFECT THE AREA. BIGGEST CONCERN WILL BE AMOUNT OF FOG THIS  
MORNING AND AMOUNT OF CLOUD COVER AND POPS FOR MONDAY AND MONDAY NIGHT.  
 
SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE OVER EASTERN GREAT LAKES PROVIDING CLEAR SKIES  
AND LIGHT WINDS FOR OUR AREA THIS MORNING. FOG WAS FINALLY BEGINNING  
TO FORM AROUND 07Z AND SHOULD CONTINUE AND BECOME LOCALLY DENSE BY  
DAYBREAK. NO HEADLINES PLANNED AT THIS TIME AS NO SIGNS OF  
WIDESPREAD DENSE FOG BUT WILL MONITOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT.  
 
FOG SHOULD BURN OFF THIS MORNING WITH MOSTLY SUNNY CONDITIONS  
EXPECTED ONCE AGAIN. A NEARLY CARBON COPY OF SATURDAY WITH MORE SUN  
IN THE SOUTHEAST. TEMPS MAY BE JUST A FEW DEGREES WARMER WITH MIXING  
FROM 900MB INDICATED BY NAM12 SOUNDINGS. THIS MATCHES LATEST MOS AND  
INHERITED GRIDS SO ONLY SOME MINOR TWEAKS MADE.  
 
SHORT WAVE EXITING THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST THIS MORNING WILL HELP  
PICK UP WAVE SITTING IN DEEP SOUTH AND LIFT IT NORTHEAST. MODELS  
HAVE BEEN HINTING AT INCREASING MOISTURE ACROSS OUR  
AREA...ESPECIALLY IN THE EAST...LATE TONIGHT INTO MONDAY. 2100 UTC  
SREF 12HR PROBABILITIES FOR MEASURABLE PCPN HAVE INCREASED TO OVER  
70 PERCENT IN OUR EAST FOR MONDAY AND MONDAY MONDAY NIGHT. EXPECT  
MODELS ARE OVERDOING WESTERN PERIPHERY OF MOISTURE BUT SOME LIGHT  
SHOWERS ARE POSSIBLE IN FAR SOUTHEAST AND HAVE ADDED A LOW CHANCE TO  
ACCOUNT FOR THIS AND FOR BETTER COLLABORATION. AMOUNTS SHOULD BE  
TENTH OF AN INCH OR LESS AND THIS IS ALSO SUPPORTED BY VERY LOW SREF  
PROBABILITIES FOR MORE THAN A TENTH OF AN INCH. CLOUD COVER ALSO  
EXPECTED TO INCREASE SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY ACROSS ENTIRE AREA AS  
THESE WAVES PHASE AND MOVE ACROSS THE REGION. TEMPERATURES ON MONDAY  
WILL BE A LITTLE COOLER BUT STILL ABOVE NORMAL WITH INCREASED CLOUD  
COVER. SIMILAR STORY MONDAY NIGHT AHEAD OF MORE POTENT WAVE THAT  
WILL BRING SIGNIFICANTLY COOLER AIR FOR LATER IN THE WEEK.  
 

 
   
LONG TERM /TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/
 
 
GFS/ECMWF BEGINNING TO COME INTO AGREEMENT IN...AT LEAST IN TERMS OF  
SLOWER ARRIVAL OF PRECIP WITH INTENSIFYING LOW PRESSURE TO THE WEST.  
THE RESULT IS A SLOW DOWN IN THE ONSET OF CHC POPS FOR TUESDAY FROM  
WEST TO EAST. BEST CHANCE LOOKS TO ARRIVE LATE AFTERNOON TUES AND  
MORE SO TUES NGT INTO WEDS. HAVE INCREASED POPS TO 50 PERCENT TUES  
NGT BUT HOLD OFF ON LIKELY AS EXACT TRACK OF LOW REMAINS A BIT  
PROBLEMATIC RANGING FROM TRACKING ACROSS THE CWA TO ACROSS PORTIONS  
OF WISCONSIN. ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE SHOWS THE LARGE DISPARITY IN  
CONFIDENCE WITH POPS RANGING FROM 20 TO AS HIGH AS 80. ALSO WITH THE  
FURTHER WEST TRACK...THERMAL PROFILES WAY TOO WARM TO SUPPORT  
CONTINUED MENTION OF MIX PRECIP TUES NGT SO THIS HAS BEEN REMOVED.  
 
PRECIP CHANCES WILL LINGER INTO WEDS NGT WHEN QUESTIONS CONTINUE AS  
TO THE SPEED AND DEGREE OF THE COLD AIR IN THE WAKE OF THE SYSTEM.  
GFS CONTINUES TO BE THE FASTER OF THE MEDIUM RANGE MODELS IN THE  
ARRIVAL OF THE COLD AIR BY WEDS NGT VS THE ECMWF DURING THE DAY  
THURS. WILL GENERALLY FOLLOW THE MEAN 850 MB TEMPS DEPICTED BY THE  
GFS ENSEMBLE WHICH BRINGS READINGS INTO THE -4 TO -6 C RANGE BY  
FRIDAY. DEPENDING ON AMOUNT OF CLOUD COVER...GUIDANCE MAY BE A BIT  
TOO WARM WITH READING NOT FAR FROM CLIMO IN THE LOWER 40S. FOR NOW  
WILL LEAVE TEMPS AND MIX PRECIP MENTION ALONE GIVEN ENOUGH TIMING  
ISSUES IN EARLIER PERIODS TO RAISE A BIT OF DOUBT ON EXACT TIMING IN  
LATER PERIODS. BOTH MODELS LINGER THE COOLER AIR AROUND INTO LATE  
FRIDAY WHEN SOME MODERATION BEGINS...WITH THE GFS OF COURSE BEING  
THE MORE EXTREME OF THE TWO MODELS.  
 

 
   
AVIATION
 
 
HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE AREA WITH CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS  
TONIGHT. EXPECT MVFR BR TO DEVELOP WITH IFR POSSIBLE TOWARD  
DAYBREAK. SHOULD SEE THIS BURN OFF QUICKLY AFTER SUNRISE WITH RETURN  
TO VFR CONDITIONS.  
 

 
   
IWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
IN...NONE.  
MI...NONE.  
OH...NONE.  
LM...NONE.  

 
 

 
 
SHORT TERM...LASHLEY  
LONG TERM...FISHER  
AVIATION...LASHLEY  
 
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