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FXUS64 KMOB 082119  
AFDMOB  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL  
319 PM CST SUN NOV 8 2009  
   
SHORT TERM  
(TONIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY) QUITE A COMPLEX AND  
CHALLENGING FORECAST WITH THE APPROACH OF HURRICANE IDA. HURRICANE  
IDA HAS SLOWLY STRENGTHENED FOR MUCH OF THE DAY WITH THE SYSTEM  
LOOKING IMPRESSIVE ON SATELLITE AND CANCUN RADAR. HOWEVER...THE LAST  
FEW SATELLITE PICTURES SHOW A LITTLE MORE RAGGED CONVECTIVE ENVELOPE  
WITH SIGNS OF SOUTHERLY SHEAR MAY BE STARTING TO AFFECT THE SYSTEM.  
 
IDA IS FORECAST TO LEVEL OFF IN INTENSITY THIS EVENING AS IT  
CONTINUES NORTH NORTHWESTWARD INTO THE GULF OF MEXICO. WEAKENING IS  
STILL EXPECTED AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH THE DAY MONDAY AS IDA  
APPROACHES MUCH COOLER GULF WATERS. IN ADDITION...UPPER LEVEL WINDS  
WILL BEGIN TO BECOME MORE HOSTILE AS AN UPPER LEVEL TROUGH OVER  
WESTERN TEXAS MOVES EAST TOWARD THE GULF. THIS SAME UPPER LEVEL  
TROUGH WILL CONTINUE TO SEND IDA NORTHWARD AND IT IS EXPECTED TO  
APPROACH THE NORTHERN GULF COAST BY LATE MONDAY NIGHT/EARLY TUESDAY  
MORNING. THE BIG QUESTION MARK IS HOW FAST DOES IDA WEAKEN AND WILL  
IT MAINTAIN TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS AS IT APPROACHES OUR AREA?  
THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME MIXED SIGNALS OUT THERE AND FORECASTING  
EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION IS ALWAYS CHALLENGING. THE GFS HAS  
DEVELOPED AN INTERESTING SCENARIO WHERE IT FORECASTS A BAROCLINIC  
LOW TO DEVELOP IN THE WESTERN GULF TOMORROW...WHICH IN TURN HANGS UP  
THE EASTWARD MOVING COLD FRONT. THIS ALLOWS IDA TO SHOOT  
NORTH...REMAINING IN THE WARM SECTOR AND DELAYING A TRANSITION. IN  
FACT...THE CYCLONE PHASE DIAGRAM CHART FROM THE GFS REVEALS THE MODEL  
MAINTAINING A TROPICAL SYSTEM UP UNTIL LANDFALL. HOWEVER...EVEN WITH  
THE TROUGH HOLDING BACK...THE COOLER WATER...COOLER DRIER  
CONTINENTAL AIR...AND INCREASING SHEAR WOULD SUGGEST THE SYSTEM MAY  
BEGIN TO LOSE ITS TROPICAL FEATURES. TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE  
COMPLICATED...THE HURRICANE WILL BEGIN TO INTERACT WITH A STRONG  
UPPER LEVEL JET STREAK TO ITS NORTH...WHICH MAY SERVE AS A STRONG  
POLEWARD OUTFLOW...HELPING TO MAINTAIN ITS INTENSITY. ALL IN ALL...IT  
IS GOING TO BE A VERY CLOSE CALL AND THE POSSIBILITY OF THIS SYSTEM  
MAINTAINING THE PUNCH OF A CATEGORY ONE HURRICANE IS HIGH ENOUGH TO  
WARRANT THE ISSUANCE OF A HURRICANE WATCH FOR OUR ENTIRE COAST.  
 
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT IF INDEED IDA BECOMES EXTRATROPICAL...WE ARE  
STILL LOOKING AT A SIGNIFICANT WIND AND COASTAL FLOODING IMPACT. AS  
IDA TRANSITIONS...ITS WIND FIELD WILL BROADEN AND THE GRADIENT  
BETWEEN IDA AND THE HIGH TO OUR NORTH WILL PUT US IN QUITE THE  
'SQUEEZE PLAY'...RESULTING IN STRONG GRADIENT WINDS. GIVEN THE  
POSSIBILITY OF SIGNIFICANT WINDS SPREADING INLAND...HAVE ALSO ISSUED  
A INLAND TROPICAL STORM WIND WATCH FOR INLAND ZONES. IT IS IMPORTANT  
TO STRESS NOT TO FOCUS ON WHETHER THIS IS TROPICAL OR NON TROPICAL.  
INSTEAD...PREPARE FOR THE WINDS AND POTENTIAL COASTAL FLOODING  
REGARDLESS. PLEASE REFER TO OUR HURRICANE LOCAL STATEMENTS FOR  
SPECIFIC INFORMATION REGARDING THE THREATS ASSOCIATED WITH IDA.  
 
TONIGHT LOOKS MOSTLY DRY WITH JUST INCREASING CLOUDS AND WINDS AS  
THE PRESSURE GRADIENT BEGINS TO TIGHTEN. REALLY RAMP UP POPS BY  
TOMORROW AFTERNOON WITH ALL ZONES CATEGORICAL TOMORROW NIGHT WITH  
THE STORM APPROACHING THE COAST. HEAVY RAIN CERTAINLY A THREAT WITH  
TOTALS OF 2-4 INCHES WITH ISOLATED 6 INCHES POSSIBLE. SINCE FLASH  
FLOOD GUIDANCE IS RATHER HIGH...HAVE DECIDED TO HOLD OFF ON A FLASH  
FLOOD WATCH FOR NOW. LATEST NHC TRACK HAS THE REMNANTS OF IDA  
SHIFTING EAST OF THE AREA ON TUESDAY...AND WILL FOLLOW SUIT ON  
REDUCING POPS FROM WEST TO EAST THROUGH THE DAY. STUCK CLOSE TO MOS  
TEMPS THROUGH PERIOD. /34 JFB  
 
   
LONG TERM  
(TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY) NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES  
TO THE EXTENDED FORECAST WITH ALL ATTENTION DEVOTED TO IDA. A RETURN  
TO AUTUMN WEATHER IS ANTICIPATED MID TO LATE WEEK AS IDA MOVES OUT  
AND HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE FORECAST AREA IN THE WAKE OF A COLD  
FRONT. LATEST GUIDANCE WAFFLING ON THE WEEKEND PATTERN...SO WILL  
LEAVE SLIGHT CHANCE POPS IN FOR NOW...BUT SUSPECT THAT CAN BE TAKEN  
OUT IN SUBSEQUENT FORECASTS. 34/JFB  
 
 
   
AVIATION...(18Z ISSUANCE)  
HIGH CLOUDS WILL CONTINUE TO OVERSPREAD  
THE AREA THROUGH THIS EVENING. CIGS WILL GRADUALLY LOWER THROUGH THE  
MORNING ON MONDAY. HOWEVER VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH 18Z.  
HOWEVER...WIND SPEEDS WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE AS THE GRADIENT  
BETWEEN HIGH PRESSURE TO OUR NORTH AND HURRICANE IDA INCREASES.  
EASTERLY WINDS OF 10 TO 20 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 30 MPH CAN BE EXPECTED  
THROUGH MONDAY MORNING. /13  
 
 
   
MARINE  
EASTERLY FLOW WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE ACROSS THE MARINE  
AREA AS HURRICANE IDA CONTINUES TO MOVE NORTHWARD. GALE CONDITIONS  
ARE EXPECTED BY EARLY MONDAY MORNING WITH TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS  
POSSIBLE BY MONDAY AFTERNOON. AS HURRICANE IDA APPROACHES THE  
CENTRAL GULF COAST MONDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING...HURRICANE  
CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE MARINE AREA MONDAY  
NIGHT. AS IDA MOVES INLAND LATE MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING  
SHE WILL TRANSITION TO EXTRA TROPICAL AND DRAG A STRONG COLD FRONT  
ACROSS THE MARINE AREA ON TUESDAY. THE GRADIENT WILL REMAIN TIGHT BEHIND  
THE FRONT AS ANOTHER STRONG AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS SOUTHWARD  
THUS SMALL CRAFT ADVISORIES WILL LIKELY BE NEEDED IN THE WAKE OF THE  
FRONT THROUGH THURSDAY. /13  
 
 
   
PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS  
 
MOBILE 61 70 62 71 / 20 80 80 40  
PENSACOLA 63 71 63 70 / 05 80 90 40  
DESTIN 65 73 65 69 / 05 80 90 50  
EVERGREEN 55 71 61 70 / 05 60 90 60  
WAYNESBORO 56 69 58 71 / 10 70 80 40  
CAMDEN 55 71 60 69 / 05 60 90 60  
 
 
   
MOB WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
AL...HURRICANE WIND WATCH UNTIL 6 PM TUESDAY FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONES:  
LOWER BALDWIN...LOWER MOBILE...UPPER BALDWIN...AND UPPER  
MOBILE.  
 
HURRICANE WATCH UNTIL 9 PM MONDAY FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONES: LOWER  
BALDWIN...LOWER MOBILE...UPPER BALDWIN...AND UPPER MOBILE.  
 
TROPICAL STORM WIND WATCH UNTIL 6 PM TUESDAY FOR THE FOLLOWING  
ZONES: BUTLER...CHOCTAW...CLARKE...CONECUH...COVINGTON...  
CRENSHAW...ESCAMBIA...MONROE...WASHINGTON...AND WILCOX.  
 
FL...HURRICANE WATCH UNTIL 9 PM MONDAY FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONES:  
COASTAL ESCAMBIA...COASTAL OKALOOSA...COASTAL SANTA ROSA...  
INLAND ESCAMBIA...INLAND OKALOOSA...AND INLAND SANTA ROSA.  
 
HURRICANE WIND WATCH UNTIL 6 PM TUESDAY FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONES:  
COASTAL ESCAMBIA...COASTAL OKALOOSA...COASTAL SANTA ROSA...  
INLAND ESCAMBIA...INLAND OKALOOSA...AND INLAND SANTA ROSA.  
 
MS...TROPICAL STORM WIND WATCH UNTIL 6 PM TUESDAY FOR THE FOLLOWING  
ZONES: GEORGE...GREENE...PERRY...STONE...AND WAYNE.  
 
GM...HURRICANE WATCH UNTIL 9 PM MONDAY FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONES:  
COASTAL WATERS FROM DESTIN TO PENSACOLA FL OUT 20 NM...  
COASTAL WATERS FROM PENSACOLA FL TO PASCAGOULA MS OUT 20  
NM...MOBILE BAY...WATERS FROM DESTIN TO PENSACOLA FL FROM  
20 TO 60 NM...AND WATERS FROM PENSACOLA FL TO PASCAGOULA MS  
FROM 20 TO 60 NM.  
 
 
 
 
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