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FXUS61 KOKX 071148  
AFDOKX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE UPTON NY  
748 AM EDT SUN SEP 7 2008  
   
SYNOPSIS  
 
WEAK HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN FROM THE WEST THROUGH TONIGHT...THEN  
SLIDES OFF THE MID ATLANTIC COAST ON MONDAY AND MONDAY NIGHT. A  
COLD FRONT WILL APPROACH FROM THE WEST ON TUESDAY...THEN CROSS THE  
TRI-STATE TUESDAY NIGHT. HIGH PRESSURE THEN RIDGES IN FROM THE  
GREAT LAKES WEDNESDAY AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT...THEN MOVES OFF THE NEW  
ENGLAND COAST ON THURSDAY. THIS HIGH WILL THEN DOMINATE OUR  
WEATHER THROUGH FRIDAY. A COLD FRONT WILL SLOWLY APPROACH FROM THE  
WEST FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY.  
 
 
   
NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/  
 
WINDS SHOULD QUICKLY DIMINISH THIS MORNING (LAST LINGERING IMPACT  
OF HANNA)...OTHERWISE A TYPICAL EARLY FALL DAY (METEOROLOGICAL  
FALL BEGAN SEPTEMBER 1ST). 20 KT OF WNW DOWNSLOPE FLOW WILL MINIMIZE  
CLOUD COVER AND COUPLED WITH 850 TEMPERATURES OF 13-15C WILL  
PROMOTE ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES TODAY. USED A BLEND OF  
MAV/FWC/MET TEMPERATURES...TEMPERING MAV NUMBERS WHICH HAVE RUN A  
BIT ON THE HIGH SIDE IN SIMILAR REGIMES DURING THE SUMMER.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT/  
 
WESTWARD EXTENSION OF BERMUDA HIGH BUILDS IN THROUGH THE MID  
LEVELS...WITH RISING HEIGHTS AND ZONAL FLOW KEEPING THINGS DRY  
INTO TUESDAY MORNING. SLIGHTLY COOLER 850 TEMPERATURES WILL YIELD  
HIGHS A BIT COOLER THAN TODAY ON MONDAY. RELATIVELY CLEAR SKY  
CONDITIONS AND LIGHT WINDS SHOULD PROMOTE DECENT RADIATIONAL  
COOLING TONIGHT...WITH LOWS BELOW NORMAL (LOWER 50S NORMAL COOL  
SPOTS MID 50S TO AROUND 60 ELSEWHERE). SOUTHERLY RETURN FLOW  
MONDAY NIGHT SHOULD RESULT IN LOWS A FEW DEGREES WARMER MONDAY  
NIGHT THAN TONIGHT. FOLLOWED A MET/FWC BLEND AT NIGHT (MAV TOO  
WARM) AND A MET/FWC/MAV BLEND DURING THE DAY (TEMPERING MAV  
NUMBERS A TAD BUT REFLECTING IMPACT OF DOWNSLOPE FLOW).  
 
AN APPROACHING STRONG COLD FRONT SHOULD BRING A CHANCE OF SHOWERS  
AND THUNDERSTORMS BY TUESDAY AFTERNOON...WITH THEM BECOMING MORE  
WIDESPREAD TUESDAY NIGHT AS THE FRONT CROSSES THE TRI-STATE. WITH  
1000-1500 J/KG OF CAPE BY LATE AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING...THETA-E  
RIDGE BUILDING OVER AREA AND DECENT SHEAR...HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR  
SOME STRONG TO POSSIBLY SEVERE STORMS LATE TUESDAY AFTERNOON AND  
EVENING.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM /WEDNESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/  
 
LONGER RANGE MODELS IN FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT THROUGH THURSDAY  
NIGHT...THEN ECMWF IS MUCH FASTER IN BRINGING A COLD FRONT THROUGH  
THAN THE GFS TO CLOSE THE WEEK (DUE TO DIFFERENCES IN HANDLING  
HIGH OFFSHORE). DUE TO THESE DIFFERENCES AND NO CLEAR CUT REASON  
TO FAVOR ONE OVER THE OTHER...MADE LITTLE CHANGES IN THE  
FRIDAY/SATURDAY TIME FRAME (WHICH ALREADY WAS LEANING TOWARDS  
SLOWER FRONTAL PASSAGE.  
 
WILL BE NOTICEABLY COOLER BEHIND COLD FRONT WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY WITH  
HIGHS IN THE LOWER TO MID 70S. DID LOWER LOWS WEDNESDAY NIGHT (NOW  
HAVE UPPER 40S IN NORMAL COLDER LOCATIONS) AND THURSDAY  
NIGHT...HOWEVER BELIEVE THAT WILL END UP BEING LOWERED FURTHER AS  
GUIDANCE OFTEN UNDERESTIMATES AMOUNT OF COLD AIR BEHIND THESE  
EARLY SEASON FRONTS (TYPICALLY UNDER DOES STRENGTH OF HIGH BUILDING  
IN FROM SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA)...THEN WITH HIGH OFFSHORE AND SW  
RETURN FLOW SETTING UP SHOULD SEE MODERATING TEMPERATURES  
FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. WITH DIFFERENCES IN FRONTAL TIMING DO HAVE  
CHANCE POPS IN FRIDAY-SATURDAY (COULD END UP BEING MORE DIURNAL  
FRIDAY AFTERNOON/EVENING AND DRY IN THE MORNING AND LATE AT NIGHT  
VICE CURRENT BLANKET CHANCE POPS CURRENTLY IN FORECAST).  
 
 
   
AVIATION /12Z SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/  
 
VFR CONDITION IN THE WAKE OF T.S. HANNA.  
 
GUSTY NW WINDS HAVE RELAXED AS PRESSURE RISES DECREASE. THERE MAY  
BE A FEW GUSTS THROUGH THE MORNING THAT RESULT IN A TAIL WIND AT  
KEWR. NO OTHER AVIATION IMPACTS EXPECTED TODAY.  
 
OUTLOOK FOR 06Z MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY...  
HIGH PRESSURE AND VFR MONDAY. SHOWERS/TSTMS COULD PRODUCE SUB VFR  
CONDITIONS TUE AFTERNOON INTO TUE NIGHT AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING  
COLD FRONT. HIGH PRESSURE AND VFR CONDITIONS RETURN WED AND THU.  
 
 
   
MARINE  
 
LARGE SEA/SWELL COMBINATION STILL EXISTS IN THE WAKE OF HANNA ACROSS  
OCEAN WATERS. THIS WILL PRODUCE POUNDING HIGH SURF AND DANGEROUS  
RIP CURRENTS TODAY...WITH THE HIGH SURF DIMINISHING TODAY...BUT  
STRONG RIP CURRENTS ARE EXPECTED TO CONTINUE INTO TUESDAY. REFER  
TO THE LATEST COASTAL FLOOD STATEMENT FOR DETAILS.  
 
THE PRESSURE FIELDS OVER THE AREA SUPPORTS A  
CONTINUING DECREASE IN WINDS SPEEDS. HOWEVER...SEAS WILL BE A BE  
SLOWER TO RESPOND...MAINLY DUE TO THE LONGER PERIOD SWELL IN PLACE.  
A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY CURRENTLY IN EFFECT WILL EXPIRE FOR LI  
SOUND/NY HARBOR/AND ALL BAYS AT 11AM. OCEAN WATERS WILL SEE SMALL  
CRAFT SEAS THROUGH TONIGHT.  
 
HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN WILL ALLOW CONDITIONS TO CONTINUE TO  
DIMINISH INTO MONDAY.  
 
WINDS BACK TO SOUTHERLY AND PICK UP AGAIN TUESDAY AHEAD OF A POTENT  
COLD FRONT. SCA WINDS MAY BE REACHED SOUTH OF LI AHEAD OF THE  
FRONT...AND GUSTY NW WINDS AND HIGHER SEAS MAY NECESSITATE A SCA ON  
WEDNESDAY MORNING.  
 
LONG PERIOD SWELLS FROM HURRICANE IKE MAY IMPACT THE LOCAL WATERS  
THROUGH MUCH OF NEXT WEEK.  
 
 
   
HYDROLOGY  
 
RIVER FLOODING ONGOING THIS MORNING. IN NEW JERSEY...THE SADDLE  
BROOK NEAR LODI REMAINS ABOVE MODERATE FLOOD STAGE...BTU APPEAR TO  
BE REACHING ITS CREST AT THIS TIME NEAR 7.8 FEET. A RIVER FLOOD  
WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT THROUGH THIS MORNING UNTIL THE FLOOD  
STAGE OF 6.0 FEET IS REACHED.  
 
SMALLER STREAMS IN NJ HAVE FALLEN BELOW FLOOD STAGE.  
 
THE POMPERAUG RIVER IN NEW HAVEN COUNTY CT HAS GONE ABOVE FLOOD  
STAGE (9.0 FEET)...BUT ALSO APPEARS TO BE CRESTING. NO OTHER NEW  
FLOODING IS EXPECTED WITH RAINFALL HAVING ENDED ACROSS THE  
HYDROLOGIC SERVICE AREA...AND RIVER LEVELS WILL CONTINUE TO RECEDE  
WITH DRY WEATHER SUNDAY AND MONDAY.  
 
THE NEXT CHANCE FOR RAINFALL IS TUESDAY AFTERNOON AND NIGHT...WITH  
ABOUT 0.5 INCHES EXPECTED BASIN WIDE. LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS ARE  
POSSIBLE IN THUNDERSTORMS.  
 
 
   
OKX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
CT...NONE.  
NY...HIGH SURF ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM EDT THIS AFTERNOON FOR  
NYZ075>077-080-081.  
NJ...NONE.  
MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 11 AM EDT THIS MORNING FOR ANZ330-  
335-338-340-345-355.  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 1 AM EDT MONDAY FOR ANZ350-353.  
 
 
 
 
SYNOPSIS...PFM  
NEAR TERM...PFM  
SHORT TERM...PFM  
LONG TERM...MAS/PFM  
AVIATION...BS  
MARINE...BS  
HYDROLOGY...BS/PFM  
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