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FXUS61 KRLX 090851  
AFDRLX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHARLESTON WV  
351 AM EST MON NOV 9 2009  
   
SYNOPSIS  
 
HIGH PRESSURE REMAINS IN CONTROL AS HIGH CLOUDS INCREASES. HAZE  
AND/OR POLLUTION BUILD UP TODAY IN THE STABLE AIR. MOISTURE  
INCREASES TUESDAY FROM LOW PRESSURE TO THE SOUTH.  
 
 
   
NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/  
 
A 15 TO 20 DEG F INVERSION IN THE LOWER 2 THSD FT AT 08Z. HAVE HIGH  
CLOUDS INCREASING FROM SW TO NE THIS MORNING. AS WE HAVE BEEN  
MENTIONING OF LATE...THE CIRRUS THIS TIME OF THE YEAR...MAKES US  
LEERY OF GOING TOO WARM FOR MAXIMUM TEMPERATURE. SO HAVE THE MAXIMUM  
TEMPERATURE UNDER YESTERDAYS VALUES IN MOST OF THE LOWLANDS...THE  
EXCEPTION MAY BE ELEVATIONS AOA 2 THSD FT.  
 
WITH THE CONTINUATION OF THE DRY AND WARM CONDITIONS...YOU MAY FIRST  
THINK OUR MAIN CONCERN TODAY WAS FIRE WEATHER. HOWEVER...WITH A  
STABLE ATMOSPHERE THROUGH ABOUT 8 THSD FT MSL...MY MAIN CONCERN WAS  
THE POOR VENTILATION TODAY DUE TO THE LOW MIXING HEIGHTS AND WEAK  
TRANSPORT WINDS. WE HAVE THE MIXING HEIGHTS STRUGGLING TO GET AOA  
1500 FEET AGL IN THE AFTERNOON. SO HAZE AND OR POLLUTION COULD  
EASILY BUILD UP IN THE BOUNDARY LAYER...ESPECIALLY ALONG URBAN RIVER  
VALLEYS. WILL MENTION THIS IN THE IMPACTS FOR TODAY. THUS THE  
REASON FOR THE HAZE TODAY IN OUR HOURLY WEATHER GRAPHICS.  
 
ON THE DIURNAL TEMPERATURE TRACE TODAY...SPENT TIME TRYING TO HAVE A  
BIGGER THAN USUAL INCREASE BETWEEN 12 AND 15Z. DUE TO THE  
ISOTHERMAL STABLE NATURE OF THE SOUNDING THIS AFTERNOON...OUR HIGH  
TERRAIN COULD BE JUST AS WARM AS SOME THE WESTERN VALLEYS.  
 
MORE OF THE SAME TONIGHT...TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE MINIMUM  
TEMPERATURE IS DIFFICULT WITH HIGH/MID CLOUDS AND SOME VALLEYS  
DECOUPLING.  
 
NO CHANGES ON OUR POPS WITH CHANCE POPS REACHING INTO SW VA BY 12Z.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM /TUESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/  
 
STILL A VARIETY OF MODEL SOLUTIONS REGARDING EVENTUAL FATE OF  
APPROACHING WEAK COLD FRONT...PLUS REMNANT MOISTURE FROM IDA. THE  
GFS IS THE STRONG OUTLIER...PHASING THE STREAMS ALONG THE ATLANTIC  
COAST AND CREATING A STRONG CLOSED H500 LOW OVER THE APPALACHIANS BY  
WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. THE NAM WANTS TO SUPPRESS ALL OF THE TROPICAL  
MOISTURE TO THE SOUTH...AND INSTEAD BRING ACROSS A WEAK MIDLEVEL  
WAVE ASSOCIATED WITH THE COLD FRONT...AND WITH VIRTUALLY NO  
PRECIPITATION. THE UKMET/GEM ALSO HAVE DIFFERING VIEWS. THE ECMWF  
OFFERS MORE OF A COMPROMISE...WITH PHASING OCCURRING OFFSHORE OF THE  
SOUTHEAST U.S...WHILE SKIMMING THE CWA WITH THE IDA REMNANT  
MOISTURE. WENT WITH THIS SOLUTION...WHICH PRESERVE SOME MEASURE OF  
CONTINUITY. STILL HAVE A DECENT GRADIENT IN THE POP GRIDS...RANGING  
FROM LIKELY IN THE FAR SOUTH AND EAST TO LOW CHANCE IN THE  
NORTHWEST. IN FACT...SOUTHEAST OHIO MAY WELL END UP GETTING ZERO  
RAINFALL FROM THE STRUNG-OUT FRONT WHICH SINKS IN DURING THE DAY  
TUESDAY. BULK OF THE TROPICAL MOISTURE ARRIVES AFTER 18Z TUESDAY IN  
THE SOUTH AND EAST. ONE QUARTER TO ONE HALF INCH OF RAIN MAY FALL  
IN SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA AND SOUTHEAST WEST VIRGINIA THROUGH 12Z  
WEDNESDAY...WITH AMOUNTS DROPPING OFF TO THE NORTHWEST FAIRLY  
QUICKLY.  
 
BY SUNRISE WEDNESDAY...MOST OF THE MOISTURE HAS PULLED OFF TO THE  
EAST. SOME LIGHT RAIN MAY LINGER IN THE MOUNTAINS DURING THE  
MORNING...BUT NORTHEAST FLOW AROUND THE LOW TO THE SOUTHEAST MEANS  
NO BACKSIDE UPSLOPE. LARGE SURFACE HIGH BUILDS IN BEHIND...WITH  
CLEARING SKIES AND COOLER TEMPERATURES.  
 
LEANED TOWARDS THE COOLER SIDE OF MOS TUESDAY IN THE SOUTHEAST WITH  
THICKER CLOUDS AND RAIN...AND MORE MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD TO THE  
NORTHWEST. MET/MAV BLEND TUESDAY NIGHT. PREFERRED COOLER VALUES  
WEDNESDAY WITH THE NORTHEAST FLOW BRINGING IN 1-3C H850 AIR.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM /THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/  
 
MODELS CONTINUE TO DIFFER WITH THE HANDLING OF THE REMNANTS OF  
HURRICANE IDA. 12Z NAM APPEARS TO BE TRENDING TOWARDS A DRIER  
SOLUTION FOR THURSDAY...AS IT INDICATES THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER  
THE SE U.S....AND ITS ASSOCIATED MOISTURE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE  
SOUTH OF THE REGION. 12Z GFS CONTINUES TO INDICATE THE REMNANTS OF  
HURRICANE IDA WILL MOVE NORTHEAST OVER THE REGION EARLY THIS  
WEEK...WITH PRECIPITATION CONTINUING TO WRAP AROUND THE BACK SIDE OF  
THE LOW INTO THE REGION FOR THURSDAY. 00Z RUN OF THE ECMWF ALSO  
INDICATED THE LOW PRESSURE CENTER WOULD MOVE NORTHEAST OVER THE  
REGION...BUT WOULD MOVE OFFSHORE BY THURSDAY. HOWEVER...12Z RUN OF  
THE ECMWF NOW SEEMS TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE 12Z NAM...TRENDING  
TOWARDS A DRIER SOLUTION ON THURSDAY AS THE LOW PRESSURE CENTER  
REMAINS OVER THE SE U.S....BEFORE SLIDING OFF TO THE SOUTH AND EAST  
LATE WED. FOR NOW HAVE TRENDED THE FORECAST MORE TOWARDS THAT OF  
HPC...ECMWF...AND NAM...WHICH KEEPS THE FORECAST REGION DRY FOR  
THURSDAY. HIGH PRESSURE THEN TAKES CONTROL FOR MUCH OF THE REMAINDER  
OF THE FORECAST PERIOD...FOR DRY CONDITIONS AND A GRADUAL WARM UP IN  
TEMPERATURES. UNSETTLED WEATHER RETURNS TO THE FORECAST AREA LATE IN  
THE PERIOD AS ANOTHER LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM AND ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT  
MOVE IN FROM THE WEST.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /08Z MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/  
 
BKN TO OVC HIGH CLOUDS AOA 20 THSD FT TODAY WITH SCT TO BKN AROUND  
15 THSD FT AFTER 00Z TONIGHT.  
 
SOME 3 TO 5 MILES UNDER THE SHALLOW INVERSION IN THE COLDER MOUNTAIN  
VALLEYS NEAR TOWNS...SUCH AS EKN VCNTY THROUGH 13Z...DUE TO  
HAZE...FOG...SMOKE. OTHERWISE SOME 5 TO 6 MILES IN URBAN RIVER  
VALLEYS AROUND 12Z.  
 
EVEN AFTER THE SHALLOW INVERSION BURNS OFF IN THE RIVER VALLEYS AFTER  
14Z...FORECASTING A ISOTHERMAL STABLE LAYER WITH LOW MIXING HEIGHTS  
THROUGH THE DAY. HAZE AND POLLUTION COULD BUILD UP...ESPECIALLY IN  
THE URBAN RIVER VALLEYS SUCH AS THE OHIO AND THE KANAWHA. SO KEPT  
SOME 5 TO 6 MILE VISIBILITY THROUGHOUT THE DAY.  
 
AFTER 06Z TUESDAY...  
NO SIGNIFICANT WEATHER EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.  
 
 
   
RLX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
WV...NONE.  
OH...NONE.  
KY...NONE.  
VA...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
SYNOPSIS...KTB/CL  
NEAR TERM...KTB  
SHORT TERM...CL  
LONG TERM...SL  
AVIATION...KTB  
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