877  
FXUS61 KALY 210544  
AFDALY  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY  
1244 AM EST THU NOV 21 2024  
   
SYNOPSIS
 
 
A WEATHER SYSTEM BRINGING WIDESPREAD RAINFALL BEGINS TONIGHT THAT  
CONTINUES INTO THE END OF THE WORK WEEK. IN THE SOUTHEAST AND  
CENTRAL CATSKILLS AND SOUTHERN ADIRONDACKS, RAIN TRANSITIONS  
OVER TO SNOW THURSDAY EVENING. BY SATURDAY MORNING, MOST  
LOCATIONS BECOME DRY WITH A FEW LINGERING SNOW SHOWERS IN THE  
SOUTHERN ADIRONDACKS, CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST CATSKILLS AS OUR  
WEATHER SYSTEM MOVES NORTHWARD. COOL TEMPERATURES CONTINUE  
THROUGH THIS WEEKEND.  
 

 
   
NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM THIS MORNING/
 
   
UPDATE...AS OF 12:45 AM EST
 
CLOUDS CONTINUE TO INCREASE  
ACROSS THE REGION, WITH THE LEADING EDGE OF THE RAIN RIGHT ON  
THE DOORSTEP BETWEEN ALONG OUR CWA BORDER WITH WFO BGM. BASED ON  
CURRENT TEMPERATURES(WHICH WERE RUNNING A FEW DEGREES ABOVE THE  
PREVIOUS FORECAST) AND DEW POINTS, PRECIP SHOULD BEGIN AS ALL  
RAIN, BUT SOME WET SNOW COULD BEGIN TO MIX IN ACROSS THE HIGHER  
TERRAIN AREAS TOWARDS DAYBREAK, ALTHOUGH LITTLE TO NO  
ACCUMULATION IS EXPECTED. OTHERWISE, PREVIOUS FORECAST REMAINS  
IN GOOD SHAPE WITH MORE DETAILS BELOW...  
   
PREVIOUS
 
CLOUDS CONTINUE TO INCREASE THIS EVENING AS A LOW  
PRESSURE SYSTEM CONTINUES TO MOVE NORTHWARD ALONG THE ATLANTIC  
COAST. TEMPERATURES TONIGHT REMAIN ABOVE FREEZING DUE TO THE  
INCREASED CLOUDS, WITH LOWS IN THE UPPER 30S AND 40S.  
 
FOR TONIGHT, HIGH RESOLUTION AND ENSEMBLE FORECAST MODEL  
GUIDANCE IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT FOR THE ONSET TIMING OF RAINFALL  
TO BEGIN FOR EASTERN NEW YORK AND WESTERN NEW ENGLAND TONIGHT.  
BETWEEN 1 AM AND 5 AM EST, RAIN BEGINS TO MOVE FROM WEST TO EAST  
THAT CONTINUES INTO THE DAY TOMORROW. RAINFALL COULD BE  
PERIODICALLY MODERATE TO HEAVY IN SOUTHERN ULSTER AND DUTCHESS  
COUNTIES.  
 

 
   
SHORT TERM /6 AM THIS MORNING THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT/
 
 
*WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY ISSUED FOR WESTERN GREENE AND WESTERN  
ULSTER COUNTIES FROM 4 PM THURSDAY THROUGH 1 AM SATURDAY*  
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
- RAIN CONTINUES THROUGH FRIDAY.  
 
- RAIN TRANSITIONS TO SNOW THURSDAY NIGHT IN THE HIGH TERRAIN OF  
THE GREENS, SOUTHERN ADIRONDACKS, AND SOUTHEAST AND CENTRAL  
CATSKILLS WHERE THE CATSKILLS ARE FAVORED TO SEE THE MOST  
SNOWFALL WITH THIS STORM.  
 
THURSDAY... WIDESPREAD RAIN CONTINUES FOR EASTERN NEW YORK AND  
WESTERN NEW ENGLAND. RAINFALL COULD BE PERIODICALLY MODERATE TO  
HEAVY DURING THE MORNING HOURS AS THE CENTER OF THE LOW PRESSURE  
SYSTEM CONTINUES TO MOVE UP THE ATLANTIC COAST. THIS IS WHERE  
THE MY FORECAST CONFIDENCE BECOMES UNCERTAIN, HOW FAR WEST AND  
INLAND DOES THE CENTER OF THE LOW GO. FORECAST MODELS ARE  
FAVORING IT AT THIS FORECAST TIME TO PIVOT OVER CENTRAL NEW YORK  
FOR THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING WHERE THIS COULD BRING  
WET AND HEAVY SNOWFALL ACROSS THE HIGHEST ELEVATIONS OF CENTRAL  
AND SOUTHEAST CATSKILLS. THIS CAN'T BE STRESSED ENOUGH THAT THE  
SNOWFALL IS GOING TO BE HIGHLY ELEVATION DEPENDENT. ELEVATIONS  
ABOVE 3000 FEET (FOR EXAMPLE THE MOUNTAIN PEAKS OF THE  
CATSKILLS) COULD SEE SNOWFALL AMOUNTS BETWEEN 6 AND 12 INCHES.  
AS YOU GO LOWER IN ELEVATION IN THE CATSKILLS (BELOW 2500 FEET  
IN ELEVATION), WARMER AIR TEMPERATURES COULD ALLOW RAIN TO  
PERSIST LONGER BEFORE TRANSITIONING OVER TO SNOW WHERE 2 TO 6  
INCHES IS FORECASTED. IF FUTURE FORECAST MODELS SHOW A SHIFT TO  
THE WEST OR SOUTH OF THE CENTER OF THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM,  
LOWER OR HIGHER SNOWFALL AMOUNTS COULD OCCUR. AS CURRENT  
SNOWFALL AMOUNTS CONTINUE TO BE LOWER THAN WARNING CRITERIA FOR  
THE POPULATED CITIES IN WESTERN ULSTER AND GREENE COUNTIES, WE  
KEPT THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR THESE LOCATIONS AS  
SLIPPERY CONDITIONS WILL OCCUR THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY  
MORNING.  
 
RAINFALL AMOUNTS ARE BETWEEN 1 INCH AND 2 INCHES WIDESPREAD FROM  
TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING AS CONFIDENCE IS HIGH (GREATER  
THAN 75 PERCENT) ACROSS EASTERN NEW YORK AND WESTERN NEW  
ENGLAND FOR LOCATIONS TO EXPERIENCE THIS AS LATEST NATIONAL  
BLEND OF MODELS DATA 4.2 HAS HIGH PROBABILITIES FOR GREATER THAN  
1 INCH OF RAINFALL FOR 48 HOUR TOTALS.  
 
FOR TOMORROW AFTERNOON, HIGH RESOLUTION FORECAST MODELS ARE  
SUGGESTING A BRIEF BREAK IN THE PRECIPITATION FROM THE GREATER  
CAPITAL DISTRICT TO THE LAKE GEORGE-SARATOGA REGION. THIS IS WHY  
RAINFALL AMOUNTS HAVE LOWERED FOR THESE AREAS TO BETWEEN 0.5  
INCHES AND 1.5 INCHES. WHAT WE CALL A DRY SLOT COULD OCCUR  
DURING TOMORROW AFTERNOON WHICH GIVES US THIS BRIEF BREAK IN THE  
PRECIPITATION. RAIN DOES RETURN FOR THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH  
FRIDAY MORNING.  
 
FRIDAY AND SATURDAY...THE SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM DEPARTS  
OUR AREA FROM WEST TO EAST FRIDAY. A FEW LINGERING RAIN SHOWERS  
AND HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW SHOWERS COULD OCCUR FRIDAY INTO  
SATURDAY. TEMPERATURES FRIDAY MORNING COOL TO THE MID 30S FOR  
VALLEYS AND INTO THE 20S FOR MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN. FOR HIGH  
TEMPERATURES FRIDAY, HIGHER TERRAIN LOCATIONS STRUGGLE TO REACH  
ABOVE FREEZING BASED ON LATEST FORECAST GUIDANCE SO HIGHS ARE  
FORECASTED IN THE LOW 30S. FOR SATURDAY, DRY CONDITIONS RETURNS  
FROM SOUTH TO NORTH ACROSS EASTERN NEW YORK AND WESTERN NEW  
ENGLAND AS OUR WEATHER SYSTEM DEPARTS TO THE EAST.  
 

 
   
LONG TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/
 
 
THE VERTICALLY STACKED LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVES FROM NEAR NEW  
BRUNSWICK TO THE CANADIAN MARITIMES TO CLOSE THE WEEKEND. NORTH  
TO NORTHWEST FLOW CONTINUES ALOFT OVER NY AND NEW ENGLAND. A  
SFC TROUGH ROTATING AROUND THE OCCLUDED CYCLONE WILL FOCUS SOME  
ISOLATED TO SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS OVER THE WESTERN ADIRONDACKS  
WITH SOME ISOLATED TO SCATTERED SNOW TO RAIN SHOWERS OVER THE  
WESTERN AND CENTRAL MOHAWK VALLEY. IT WILL REMAIN BRISK AND  
CHILLY IN THE CYCLONIC FLOW. MAX TEMPS WILL BE IN THE 30S TO  
LOWER 40S OVER THE HILLS AND MTNS AND MID AND UPPER 40S IN THE  
VALLEYS. THE SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS AND FLURRIES DIMINISH SUNDAY  
NIGHT WITH ONLY LIGHT ACCUMS EXPECTED OVER THE ADIRONDACK PARK.  
LOWS FALL BACK INTO THE MID 20S TO LOWER 30S.  
 
SOME FLAT MID AND UPPER LEVEL RIDGING BUILDS IN OVER THE REGION ON  
MONDAY. HOWEVER, A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM APPROACHES FROM THE  
MIDWEST AND LOWER GREAT LAKES REGION. MID AND UPPER LEVEL  
DIFFLUENT FLOW SETS UP OVER THE FORECAST AREA. CLOUDS WILL BE  
THICKENING AND LOWER AS WARM ADVECTION INCREASES AHEAD OF THE  
WARM FRONT. NBM PROBABILISTIC GUIDANCE INDICATES 25-50% CHANCES  
FOR A MIXTURE OF LIGHT RAIN/SNOW TO OVERSPREAD THE REGION MONDAY  
NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. THE BEST CHANCE FOR LIGHT SNOW ACCUMS WILL  
BE OVER THE HIGHER TERRAIN AND NORTH/NORTHWEST OF THE CAPITAL  
REGION MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. MAX TEMPS WILL RUN A LITTLE  
ABOVE NORMAL ON MONDAY IN THE UPPER 40S TO LOWER 50S IN THE  
VALLEY AREAS AND UPPER 30S TO MID 40S OVER THE HIGHER TERRAIN.  
TEMPS MONDAY NIGHT WILL BE OF THE WET BULB VARIETY IN THE UPPER  
20S TO MID 30S. THE PRECIPITATION TRANSITIONS TO RAIN DURING THE  
DAY TUESDAY WITH CONTINUED HIGH CHANCE TO LIKELY POPS. TEMPS  
WILL GENERALLY IN THE 40S TO LOWER 50S. SOME UPPER 30S ARE  
POSSIBLE OVER THE NORTHERN MTNS.  
 
A COLD FRONT MOVES THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY WITH SOME  
ISOLATED TO SCATTERED RAIN TO SNOW SNOW SHOWERS. THE BEST  
CHANCE FOR SNOW SHOWERS WILL BE OVER THE WEST FACING SLOPES OF  
THE ADIRONDACKS, SOUTHERN GREENS AND BERKSHIRES. TEMPS COOL DOWN  
TO SEASONABLE READINGS AND IT WILL BE BRISK WITH CYCLONIC FLOW  
PERSISTING. THE LATEST CPC DAY 8 TO 14 FORECAST 27 NOV TO 3 DEC  
FOR EASTERN NY AND WESTERN NEW ENGLAND IS FOR NEAR NORMAL TEMPS  
AND SLIGHTLY ABOVE NORMAL PRECIPITATION.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /06Z THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY/
 
 
THROUGH 06Z FRIDAY...MOST SITES TO SEE VFR INITIALLY, BUT THIS WILL  
BEGIN TO CHANGE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS AS A SYSTEM BRINGS A  
STEADY RAIN ACROSS THE REGION. EXPECT CONDITIONS TO DETERIORATE WITH  
THE RAIN'S ARRIVAL, WITH MVFR/IFR CEILINGS AND VISIBILITIES EXPECTED  
BY DAYBREAK. THESE CONDITIONS WILL PERSIST THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF  
THE PERIOD AT ALL TERMINALS AS THE SYSTEM SLOWLY TRAVERSES THE AREA.  
LIGHT & VARIABLE WINDS INITIALLY WILL INCREASE OUT OF THE EAST TO  
NORTHEAST AROUND 10 KTS AFTER DAYBREAK, AND WILL SHIFT TO THE  
NORTHWEST MAINLY AT KPOU/KALB AS THE SURFACE LOW NEARS THE TERMINALS  
LATE IN THE PERIOD. KPSF WILL ALSO SEE LLWS LATE IN THE PERIOD WITH  
A 40-50 KT LLJ PASSING NEAR THE TERMINAL.  
 
OUTLOOK...  
 
THURSDAY NIGHT: HIGH OPERATIONAL IMPACT. DEFINITE RA.  
FRIDAY: HIGH OPERATIONAL IMPACT. LIKELY RA.  
FRIDAY NIGHT: MODERATE OPERATIONAL IMPACT. CHANCE OF SHRA.  
SATURDAY: MODERATE OPERATIONAL IMPACT. BREEZY. CHANCE OF SHRA.  
SATURDAY NIGHT: MODERATE OPERATIONAL IMPACT. BREEZY. CHANCE OF SHRA.  
SUNDAY: MODERATE OPERATIONAL IMPACT. WINDY WITH GUSTS TO 31 KTS. NO SIG WX.  
SUNDAY NIGHT: LOW OPERATIONAL IMPACT. BREEZY. NO SIG WX.  
MONDAY: NO OPERATIONAL IMPACT. NO SIG WX.  
 

 
   
ALY WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
CT...NONE.  
NY...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FROM 4 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO 1 AM EST  
SATURDAY FOR NYZ058-063.  
MA...NONE.  
VT...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
SYNOPSIS...WEBB  
NEAR TERM...MAIN/PICARD/WEBB  
SHORT TERM...WEBB  
LONG TERM...WASULA  
AVIATION...SPECK  
 
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