635  
FXUS63 KARX 210959  
AFDARX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LA CROSSE WI  
359 AM CST THU NOV 21 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- SNOW & SUBSEQUENT RAIN MOVE THROUGH CENTRAL WISCONSIN COUNTIES  
THROUGH MUCH OF TODAY.  
 
- STRONG WIND GUSTS, HIGHEST IN FAR SOUTHWEST WISCONSIN & FAR  
NORTHEAST IOWA IN EXCESS OF 45 MPH AT TIMES. NEAR 40MPH  
EXPECTED ELSEWHERE.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 333 AM CST THU NOV 21 2024  
 
EARLY MORNING PRECIPITATION IN CENTRAL WISCONSIN:  
 
THE EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE THAT PROVIDED WIDESPREAD PRECIPITATION  
YESTERDAY (WEDNESDAY) HAS BEEN SLOWLY PROGRESSING SOUTHEAST OVER  
LAKE MICHIGAN WHILE TIGHTENING ON EARLY MORNING GOES SATELLITE  
IMAGERY LOOPS. CAN EXPECT A MORE SOUTHERLY PROGRESSION OF THE CLOSED  
LOW TODAY ATTRIBUTED TO THE NORTHWEST TO SOUTHEAST POLAR JET  
STREAK ALONG IT'S BASE IN GOES DERIVED WINDS AND 21.00Z RAOBS.  
FRONTOGENETICAL BANDS ACCOMPANYING THE LOW ARE EXPECTED TO  
DRIVE ADDITIONAL PRECIPITATION CHANCES PRIMARY THROUGH CENTRAL  
WISCONSIN TODAY. HAVE SEEN AN ATTEMPT OF INITIAL PRECIPITATION  
CHANCES THROUGH CENTRAL WISCONSIN EARLY THIS MORNING. HOWEVER,  
THE LOW HASN'T FULLY COMMITTED TO IT'S SOUTHERLY TRAJECTORY  
WHICH HAS BEEN LIMITING OVERNIGHT PRECIPITATION EXTENT. AS THE  
LOW DOES EVENTUALLY SHIFT SOUTH, HIGHEST CONFIDENCE LOCALLY WILL  
BE IN JUNEAU/ADAMS (NEAREST THE LOW).  
 
PRECIPITATION TYPE:  
 
INITIAL PRECIPITATION TYPE EXPECTED TO BE SNOW. WHILE SOME HIGH  
RESOLUTION SOUNDINGS SUGGEST A LIMITED WINDOW OF FREEZING  
PRECIPITATION, EARLY THIS MORNING, OVERALL SATURATION STRUGGLES  
BEFORE ICE INTRODUCTION RETURNS LATER THIS MORNING. REGARDLESS,  
THROUGH LATE MORNING A QUICK SWITCH TO LIQUID PRECIPITATION  
TYPE IS EXPECTED AS LOW LEVEL WARM AIR WRAPS AROUND THE LOW.  
UNFORTUNATELY, FREEZING PRECIPITATION CHANCES ARE NON ZERO  
THOUGH.  
 
LIMITED IMPACTS:  
 
OVERALL SNOWFALL AMOUNTS WILL BE DEPENDENT ON TIMING OF  
SATURATION ONSET RELATIVE TO AMOUNT OF SURFACE WARMING. MRMS  
PROBABILITY FOR SUBFREEZING ROAD TEMPERATURES IN OUR CENTRAL  
WISCONSIN COUNTIES REMAINS LOW (30-40%). THEREFORE DON'T EXPECT  
HIGH IMPACTS FROM SNOWFALL AT THIS TIME. SIMILARLY, RAINFALL  
AMOUNTS ARE ALSO EXPECTED TO BE LOW AS BEST MOISTURE REMAINS  
CLOSE TO THE LOW AS IT SHIFTS SOUTH-SOUTHEAST. A NORTH-SOUTH  
ORIENTATION OF THIS MOISTURE AXIS WILL RESULT IN QUITE VARIABLE  
ACCUMULATIONS. THEREFORE, IMMEDIATE TERM UPDATES MAY NEED TO BE  
ACCOUNTED FOR THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS AS THE LOW TAKES SHAPE.  
 
WIND SETUP TODAY:  
 
AS THE AFOREMENTIONED LOW SLOWLY SHIFTS OVER THE GREAT LAKES TODAY  
AN UPSTREAM RIDGE COLLIDES WITH THE UPSTREAM, TIGHTENING THE  
PRESSURE/ISOHEIGHT GRADIENT AS A RESULT. OFF DECK WINDS AT 850MB  
PUSH 60KTS WHILE SUSTAINED SURFACE WINDS ARE FORECASTED TO BE  
NEAR 20 KTS SUSTAINED. HIGHER CONCERN WILL BE ABILITY OF GUSTS  
TO REACH THE SURFACE. HOWEVER, THE WRAP AROUND LOW LEVEL WARM  
AIR ADVECTION IS PRESENTING SOME DIFFICULTIES REGARDING MIXING  
HEIGHTS AND ASSOCIATED DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN HIGH RESOLUTION  
MODELS AS A RESULT OF MIXING HEIGHTS.  
 
WIND IMPACTS TODAY & ADVISORY ISSUANCE:  
 
THE MAXIMUM ANOMALY OF 50KT GUSTS SEEN SOUTHEAST OF LONE ROCK,  
WI IN THE ARW, WHILE THE 90TH PERCENTILE NBM REMAINS NEAR  
40KTS. MOST OF THE HIGH RESOLUTION GUIDANCE SHOWS A WEAKENING  
AND EASTERLY SHIFT IN DPROG/DT FOR THESE HIGHEST GUSTS AS WELL.  
IN SUMMARY, THERE'S QUITE A SPREAD IN MODEL GUIDANCE AND  
ABILITY TO TAP INTO THE HIGHER OFF DECK GUSTS REMAINS IN  
QUESTION. THEREFORE, IN COLLABORATION WITH NEIGHBORING OFFICES  
TO THE EAST AND SOUTH, HAVE ISSUED A WIND ADVISORY IN VERNON,  
RICHLAND, CRAWFORD, GRANT, AND CLAYTON COUNTIES WHERE WIND  
GUSTS ARE MOST LIKELY TO EXCEED 45 MPH TODAY. RIDGE TOPS WILL BE  
MOST SUSCEPTIBLE.  
 
THROUGH THE WEEKEND, SUBSEQUENT PRECIPITATION CHANCES:  
 
THE SYNOPTIC PATTERN PROGRESSES TONIGHT INTO FRIDAY AS THE  
AFOREMENTIONED UPPER LEVEL HEIGHTS TRY TO BUILD. WEAK RETURN  
FLOW PROVIDES MEAGER WARMING TO THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER  
VALLEY ON FRIDAY. BEST RETURN FLOW SHUNTS TO THE SOUTHWEST AS  
THE RIDGE FLATTENS AS IT CROSSES THE NORTHERN PLAINS DUE TO UPSTREAM  
SYNOPTIC PERTURBATIONS.  
 
LONG TERM GLOBAL ENSEMBLE (EPS/GEFS) CONFIDENCE IS STRONG  
(500MB HEIGHTS 100% CONFIDENCE) FOR THIS INITIAL PERTURBATION  
TO SWING THROUGH THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY DURING THE  
START OF THE NEW WEEK. PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES ABOVE 0.5" ARE  
EXPECTED (EPS/GEFS 100% CONFIDENCE) WHILE PRECIPITATION TYPE  
REMAINS IN QUESTION. A MUCH MORE SOUTHERLY TRACK OF THE SURFACE  
IN THE GEFS KEEPS SURFACE TEMPERATURES LOWER, SLIGHTLY BELOW  
FREEZING. A MORE NORTHERLY TRACK IN THE CURRENT EPS (21.00Z)  
LEVERAGES THE BETTER MOISTURE AND RETURN FLOW FOR RAIN.  
REGARDLESS THERE'S ONLY A FEW DEGREE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LONG  
TERM GLOBAL ENSEMBLE TEMPERATURES AND MINIMAL IMPACTS ARE  
CURRENTLY EXPECTED AS PROBABILITIES FOR >1" OF SNOW ARE ONLY  
40%.  
 
7 DAY FORECAST:  
 
CURRENT THANKSGIVING DAY FORECAST (7 DAY) IS QUITE AMBIGUOUS AS ONE  
WOULD EXPECT. CONFIDENCE AND AGREEMENT IN 500MB HEIGHTS BETWEEN  
THE EPS & GEFS IS NONEXISTENT. REGARDLESS, EPS PROBABILITIES  
FOR 1" OF SNOW ARE 50% WHILE GEFS IS 10%. AS FOR TEMPERATURES,  
THE EPS PLACES THE 0C ISOTHERM NEAR THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER  
VALLEY WHILE THE GEFS SAGS ACROSS THE MID MISSISSIPPI RIVER  
VALLEY.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z FRIDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1100 PM CST WED NOV 20 2024  
 
SNOW SHOWERS CONTINUE CHURNING THROUGH THE REGION OVER THE NEXT  
FEW HOURS. THEY HAVE BEEN SPORADIC WITH THEIR INTENSITY, SO HAVE  
LOW CONFIDENCE REGARDING EXACTLY WHEN THEY WILL IMPACT A GIVEN  
SITE SO HAVE INTRODUCED PROB30 GROUPS TO IDENTIFY THE THREAT  
OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS. VISIBILITIES HAVE GENERALLY BEEN DOWN  
TO 3SM OR BETTER IN SNOW SHOWERS, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN INSTANCES  
OF 2SM OR LOWER. WIND GUSTS HAVE BEEN UNDERPERFORMING THIS  
EVENING AS THE STRONGER WINDS IN THE LOWER 5KFT HAVE REMAINED  
PRIMARILY OVER SOUTH- CENTRAL MINNESOTA AND NORTH- CENTRAL IOWA.  
STILL THINK THAT SPORADIC GUSTS ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE AREA  
THIS EVENING, ESPECIALLY AS YOU GET FURTHER WEST OF THE  
MISSISSIPPI RIVER. WINDS WILL ACCELERATE THURSDAY MORNING AS  
STRONGER LOW- LEVEL WINDS MOVE INTO THE REGION WITH GUSTS  
GENERALLY BE AROUND 35KT. OTHERWISE, MVFR CEILINGS 1-2KFT ARE  
EXPECTED THROUGH THE TAF PERIOD, POSSIBLY REACHING IFR AT TIMES  
(20-30%, INCREASING TO NEAR 50% FURTHER NORTH).  
 

 
   
ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
WI...WIND ADVISORY FROM 9 AM THIS MORNING TO 6 PM CST THIS EVENING  
FOR WIZ053>055-061.  
MN...NONE.  
IA...WIND ADVISORY FROM 9 AM THIS MORNING TO 6 PM CST THIS EVENING  
FOR IAZ030.  
 

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...JAR  
AVIATION...FALKINHAM  
 
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