370  
FXUS61 KOKX 210832  
AFDOKX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY  
332 AM EST THU NOV 21 2024  
   
SYNOPSIS
 
 
STRENGTHENING LOW PRESSURE MOVES IN FROM THE SOUTH TODAY AND  
MEANDERS OVER THE TRI-STATE AREA THROUGH FRIDAY BEFORE SHIFTING  
NORTHEAST FRIDAY NIGHT. THE LOW WILL MOVE TOWARDS THE CANADIAN  
MARITIMES ON SATURDAY AND THEN TRACKS SLOWLY NORTHEAST THROUGH  
MONDAY. AT THE SAME TIME, WEAK HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN FROM THE  
WEST. A WEAK FRONTAL SYSTEM WILL THEN PASS THROUGH THE AREA MONDAY  
NIGHT INTO TUESDAY, FOLLOWED BY HIGH PRESSURE FOR THE MIDDLE OF NEXT  
WEEK.  
 

 
   
NEAR TERM /THROUGH FRIDAY/
 
 
A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE INTO THE AREA  
TODAY FROM THE SOUTH AS A CLOSED UPPER TO LOW OUR WEST BEGINS TO  
MOVE EASTWARD TOWARDS AREA. AN AXIS OF HEAVIER RAINFALL WITH RAIN  
RATES OF 0.5-0.75"/HR ASSOCIATED WITH A TONGUE OF HIGHER PWATS AND  
FORCING IS MOVING WEST TO EAST AND IS EXPECTED TO EXIT EAST BY  
MIDDAY.  
 
RAINFALL IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE DAY TODAY, BUT ASIDE  
FROM THE MORNING SHOWERS, THE RAIN IS EXPECTED TO BE LIGHTER IN  
NATURE, WITH A FEW MODERATELY HEAVY SHOWERS POSSIBLE, BUT ISOLATED.  
 
GUSTY EASTERLY WINDS DEVELOPED OVERNIGHT AND ARE LIKELY TO REMAIN IN  
PLACE THROUGH THE DAY TODAY, PRIMARILY ALONG COASTAL AREAS, BECOMING  
MORE NORTHERLY BY THE AFTERNOON TODAY. MAXIMUM GUSTS WILL BE BETWEEN  
25 AND 35 MPH.  
 
CAMS AND REGIONAL MODELS HAVE DIVERGED SOMEWHAT ON THE POSITION OF  
THE MOVEMENT OF THE LOW TONIGHT. SOME OF THE CAMS BRING THE CENTER  
OF THE LOW JUST NORTH OF OUR AREA AND A LITTLE TO THE EAST INTO THE  
EARLY NIGHT BEFORE HAVING IT RETROGRADE TO OUR WEST IN UPSTATE NEW  
YORK WHILE OTHER JUST STICK WITH TRACKING THE LOW TO OUR NORTHWEST.  
THE MORE NORTHEASTERLY TRACK, REGARDLESS WILL ONLY OCCUR THIS  
EVENING INTO EARLY TONIGHT BEFORE BUMPING WEST. WITH THE LOW  
TRACKING NORTH OF US THIS EVENING, COOLER AIR WILL TAKE OVER THIS  
EVENING WITH TEMPERATURES NEAR OR BELOW FREEZING IN INTERIOR  
LOCATIONS NORTH AND WEST OF NYC. PRIOR TO THIS, TEMPERATURES WILL BE  
IN THE 40S. A TRANSITION FROM RAIN TO SNOW IS EXPECTED THIS EVENING  
FOR INTERIOR AREAS NORTH AND WEST OF NYC, BUT GIVEN THE WARM  
TEMPERATURES PRIOR, SNOWFALL MAY STRUGGLE TO ACCUMULATE. ITS  
POSSIBLE WE COULD SEE A FEW HEAVY BANDS OF SNOW WITH SNOWFALL RATES  
AROUND 1-2"/HR THIS EVENING INTO EARLY TONIGHT INDICATED BY THE 00Z  
HREF AND A SATURATED DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE BEFORE THE PRECIP GETS  
CUT OFF BY A DRY POCKET OF AIR THAT MOVES IN WHEN THE LOW  
RETROGRADES WESTWARD INTO UPSTATE NEW YORK. THIS DRY AIR IS EASIEST  
TO SEE WHEN LOOKING AT MODEL SOUNDINGS OR AT MODEL 700 MB RELATIVE  
HUMIDITY. HIGHER ELEVATIONS IN INTERIOR LOCATIONS NORTHWEST OF NYC  
WILL MOST LIKELY SEE ACCUMULATIONS OF 1-4 INCHES. HOWEVER, MOST OF  
THE INTERIOR NORTHWEST OF NYC IS AT LOWER ELEVATIONS WHERE ONLY A  
TRACE TO 0.5" IS EXPECTED DUE TO WARMER GROUND MELTING THE SNOW AND  
A SHORT WIND FOR SNOW BANDING BEFORE THE PRECIP BECOMES MUCH LIGHTER  
FROM DRY AIR INTRUSION. SNOW RATIOS ARE ALSO EXPECTED TO BE ON THE  
LOW SIDE, FURTHER CONTRIBUTING TO LOWER SNOW ACCUMULATIONS COMPARED  
TO WHAT SOME OF THE CAMS ARE PRODUCING WITH 10:1 SNOWFALL.  
 
AT THE SAME TIME, ANY LIGHT SHOWERS MAY BECOME MORE INTERMITTENT AND  
SPARSE FOR AREAS EAST OF NYC AS THE LOW TRAVELS FARTHER AWAY. 25-35  
MPH WIND GUSTS ALSO MAKE A S/SW SHIFT THIS EVENING INTO TONIGHT  
UNDER AN INCREASING PRESSURE GRADIENT AS THE LOW MOVES TO OUR  
NORTHWEST.  
 
THE UPPER-LOW TO OUR WEST CAPTURES THE SURFACE LOW ON FRIDAY MORNING  
LEADING TO A STACKED LOW THAT MOVES INTO CENTRAL AND EASTERN PA. THE  
STACKED LOW THEN PUSHES BACK EAST AND OVER OUR AREA FRIDAY  
AFTERNOON. THIS WILL LEAD TO MORE SCATTERED RAIN, BUT AT THIS POINT,  
THE SYSTEM WILL BE MOISTURE STARVED, SO EXPECTING RAIN TO BE ON THE  
LIGHTER SIDE. TOTAL LIQUID QPF FOR THE EVENT IS EXPECTED TO BE  
CLOSER TO 2-2.5 INCHES FOR THE WESTERN CWA AND 1.5-2 INCHES FOR THE  
EASTERN AREAS OF THE CWA. THE MAJORITY OF THIS IS EXPECTED TO FALL  
TODAY INTO EARLY TONIGHT. HIGHS ON FRIDAY WILL BE COOL IN THE LOW-  
40S TO LOW-50S, BUT WITH LOW-40S EXPECTED IN THE INTERIOR, ANY  
SNOWFALL THAT ACCUMULATED THURSDAY EVENING/NIGHT WILL MELT UNDER  
ADDITIONAL RAINFALL.  
 
DUE TO THE POSITION OF THE LOW MOVING OVER THE AREA, WINDS ARE  
EXPECTED TO WEAKEN.  
 

 
   
SHORT TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT/
 
 
FRIDAY EVENING, LOW PRESSURE MOVES WEST TO EAST ACROSS OUR AREA  
BEFORE TRANSITIONING TO A POSITION OFF THE COAST OF NEW ENGLAND  
LATER ON FRIDAY NIGHT. THIS WILL LEAD TO RAIN TAPERING OFF WEST TO  
EAST THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT.  
 
AS THE LOW POSITIONS ITSELF TO OUR NORTHEAST FRIDAY NIGHT EVENTUALLY  
MOVING INTO THE CANADIAN MARITIMES LATE ON SATURDAY, HIGH PRESSURE  
IS EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY BUILD IN FROM THE SOUTHWEST WITH AN UPPER-  
LEVEL RIDGE APPROACHING FROM THE WEST. THIS WILL LEAD TO THE WINDS  
TURNING, BECOMING NORTHWEST LATE FRIDAY NIGHT AND INCREASING IN  
SPEED LATE FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY FROM AN INCREASED PRESSURE  
GRADIENT. WIND GUSTS MAY START OFF AROUND 20-25 MPH SATURDAY  
MORNING, PEAKING SATURDAY NIGHT AROUND 35 MPH.  
 
PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES AND DRY WEATHER ARE EXPECTED BY SATURDAY MORNING  
FOLLOWING THE LOW'S EXIT. TEMPERATURES FRIDAY NIGHT WILL DROP INTO  
THE LOW TO UPPER-30S BEFORE WARMING TO THE LOW-50S/UPPER-40S  
SATURDAY AFTERNOON. GIVEN THE INCREASED WINDS, LOWS ON SATURDAY  
NIGHT WILL BE SLIGHTLY WARMER IN THE UPPER-30S TO MID-40S.  
 

 
   
LONG TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/
 
 
* GUSTY NW FLOW AND NEAR NORMAL TEMPERATURES BEHIND DEPARTING STORM  
SYSTEM THIS WEEKEND.  
 
* WEAK FRONTAL SYSTEM TO MOVE THROUGH THE AREA MONDAY NIGHT INTO  
TUESDAY.  
 
DEEPENING LOW PRESSURE APPROACHING THE CANADIAN MARITIMES ON  
SATURDAY WILL GRADUALLY LIFT NORTHEAST THROUGH THE WEEKEND INTO  
EARLY NEXT WEEK, WHILE WEAK HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS EAST FROM THE OHIO  
VALLEY. IT WILL BE DRY DURING THIS TIME WITH A STRONG NW FLOW. GUSTS  
WILL APPROACH 30 MPH IN THE AFTERNOON, WITH BRIEF HIGHER GUSTS UP TO  
40 MPH POSSIBLE. EXPECT SLIGHTLY WARMER TEMPERATURES ON SUNDAY.  
 
A NEARLY ZONAL UPPER FLOW TO START THE WEEK WILL SEND A FAST MOVING  
LOW NE ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY AND LOWER GREAT LAKES MONDAY, TO THE  
NORTH OF THE AREA ON TUESDAY. THIS WILL SEND A WEAK FRONTAL SYSTEM  
THROUGH THE AREA MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING WITH A LOW CHANCE  
FOR RAIN. HIGH PRESSURE THEN BUILDS IN THROUGH MIDWEEK. TEMPERATURES  
MONDAY AND TUESDAY WILL BE A FEW DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL, BUT THEN COOL  
BACK DOWN TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY AT OR JUST BELOW NORMAL.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /08Z THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY/
 
 
LOW PRESSURE INTENSIFIES SOUTH OF LONG ISLAND THIS MORNING AND  
AFTERNOON. THE LOW WILL THEN SHIFT OVER THE AREA TONIGHT AND MEANDER  
NEARBY ON FRIDAY.  
 
MAINLY MVFR TO START WITH MODERATE RAIN MOVING ACROSS THE TERMINALS  
FROM WEST TO EAST EARLY THIS MORNING. THERE MAY BE BRIEF POCKETS OF  
HEAVY RAIN. CONDITIONS SHOULD GRADUALLY LOWER TO IFR THIS MORNING,  
ESPECIALLY AFTER DAY BREAK. THE INTENSITY OF THE RAIN SHOULD BECOME  
LIGHTER BY LATE MORNING AND CONTINUE INTO THE AFTERNOON. THERE MAY  
BE ANOTHER PERIOD OF MODERATE RAIN THIS EVENING/TONIGHT, BUT THE  
EXACT LOCATION REMAINS UNCERTAIN. THE RAIN SHOULD MIX WITH OR CHANGE  
TO A PERIOD OF WET SNOW WELL NW OF THE NYC METRO TERMINALS ACROSS  
THE INTERIOR OF THE LOWER HUDSON VALLEY OVERNIGHT/EARLY FRIDAY  
MORNING.  
 
LOW CONFIDENCE WIND FORECAST TO START THE TAF PERIOD. WINDS ARE  
EXPECTED TO BE E-NNE AND GRADUALLY SETTLE TO NNE FOR MOST TERMINALS  
THIS MORNING. THE FLOW SHOULD THEN BECOME N LATE MORNING INTO THE  
AFTERNOON AND THEN SHIFT TO THE NW LATE AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING.  
A SW FLOW SHOULD DEVELOP AS THE LOW SHIFTS TO THE NORTH OR NORTHWEST  
OF THE AREA LATE TONIGHT. FREQUENCY AND MAGNITUDE OF GUSTS REMAINS  
UNCERTAIN, BUT THERE SHOULD BE GUSTS 20-25 THIS MORNING AND  
AFTERNOON. GUSTS IN THE WEST FLOW THIS EVENING MAY INCREASE TO 25-  
30KT.  
 
...NY METRO (KEWR/KLGA/KJFK/KTEB)TAF UNCERTAINTY...  
 
AMENDMENTS EXPECTED FOR CHANGING FLIGHT CATEGORIES THROUGH THE TAF  
PERIOD. MVFR MAY PERSIST SEVERAL HOURS LONGER THIS MORNING BEFORE  
IFR DEVELOPS.  
 
AMENDMENTS EXPECTED FOR WIND DIRECTION AND FREQUENCY AND MAGNITUDE  
GUSTS THIS MORNING AND AFTERNOON.  
 
OUTLOOK FOR 06Z FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY...  
 
LATE THURSDAY NIGHT...IFR TO MVFR WITH PERIODS OF RAIN, POSSIBLY  
MIXED WITH WET SNOW WELL NW OF NYC METRO. RAIN ENDING AND BECOMING  
VFR AT THE NYC TERMINALS AND LONG ISLAND EARLY FRIDAY. SW GUSTS 15-  
25KT.  
 
FRIDAY...MVFR-VFR WITH RAIN POSSIBLE. WET SNOW MAY MIX IN N AND W OF  
THE NYC METRO. S-SW GUSTS 15-20KT POSSIBLE.  
 
SATURDAY...MVFR POSSIBLE. WNW WINDS GUSTING 20-30KT.  
 
SUNDAY...VFR. WNW WINDS GUSTING TO 20-30KT.  
 
MONDAY...VFR.  
 
DETAILED INFORMATION, INCLUDING HOURLY TAF WIND COMPONENT FORECASTS,  
CAN BE FOUND AT: HTTPS:/WWW.WEATHER.GOV/ZNY/N90  
 

 
   
MARINE
 
 
ALL WATERS REMAIN UNDER A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY THROUGH MIDDAY FRIDAY  
DUE TO WINDS GUSTING BETWEEN 25-32 KTS AND WAVES BETWEEN 6-10  
FEET ON OCEAN WATERS. WINDS DROP BELOW SCA CRITERIA FOR ALL  
WATERS AFTER MIDDAY FRIDAY, BUT 4-6 FOOT SEAS REMAIN ON THE  
OCEAN THROUGH FRIDAY AFTERNOON WITH A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY IN  
PLACE FOR OCEAN WATERS THROUGH THIS TIME.  
 
FOLLOWING FRIDAY AFTERNOON, WIND AND WAVES WILL REMAIN BELOW SCA  
CRITERIA UNTIL SATURDAY MORNING. SATURDAY MORNING THROUGH SATURDAY  
NIGHT ALL WATERS REACH SCA CRITERIA FOR WINDS GUSTING BETWEEN 27 KTS  
AND 32 KTS WHILE OCEAN WAVES BUILD BACK TO 6-8 FOOT WAVES.  
 
BOTH EARLY TODAY AND SATURDAY, A FEW GALES ARE POSSIBLE, BUT FOR  
NOW, STILL EXPECTING ANY GALE-FORCE WINDS TO REMAIN ISOLATED OR TOO  
SHORT IN DURATION.  
 
SCA SEAS AND WINDS ACROSS THE WATERS, WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR GALE  
FORCE GUSTS CONTINUE THROUGH SUNDAY AFTERNOON. THEREAFTER, HIGH  
PRESSURE BUILDS IN FROM THE WEST WITH DECREASING WINDS AND SEAS  
SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY.  
 

 
   
FIRE WEATHER
 
 
A WETTING RAINFALL THROUGH FRIDAY WILL HELP MITIGATE SHORT TERM  
CONCERNS FOR FIRE DANGER, BUT WILL NOT BE ENOUGH TO LIFT US FROM  
LONG TERM DROUGHT.  
 

 
   
HYDROLOGY
 
 
OVERALL STORM TOTAL RAINFALL THIS MORNING THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT IS  
2.0-2.5 INCHES WEST OF THE HUDSON, RANGING CLOSER TO 1.5-2.0 INCHES  
TO THE EAST. MOST OF THIS, ALONG WITH ANY POTENTIAL IMPACTS, IS  
EXPECTED TO OCCUR THROUGH MIDDAY TODAY WITH THE REMAINDER OF THE  
RAIN BEING TOO LIGHT TO CAUSE ANY ISSUES. THERE COULD BE MINOR  
FLOODING ASSOCIATED WITH CLOGGED DRAINS. OTHERWISE, NO HYDROLOGIC  
IMPACTS ARE EXPECTED GIVEN THE RECENT DRY WEATHER AND PROGRESSIVE  
NATURE OF ANY HEAVIER RAINFALL TAPERING OFF BY THIS AFTERNOON.  
 
NO HYDROLOGIC IMPACTS ARE EXPECTED THIS WEEKEND THROUGH THE MIDDLE  
OF NEXT WEEK.  
 

 
   
TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING
 
 
AN INTENSIFYING LOW PRESSURE SOUTH OF LONG ISLAND WILL BRING A 2 TO  
3 FT SURGE, ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE COASTS OF LONG ISLAND AND SOUTHERN  
CONNECTICUT. THE EXACT LOCATION/TRACK OF THE LOW WILL BE IMPORTANT  
TO THE MAGNITUDE AND DURATION OF THE SURGE ALONG WITH IT COINCIDING  
WITH THE TIMING OF HIGH TIDE. THIS IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE  
LOWER NY HARBOR AS THERE IS A FINE LINE WITH THE WIND SHIFT NEAR  
HIGH TIDE. IF THE EASTERLY FLOW LASTS A BIT LONGER WATER MAY PILE  
MORE INTO THE NY BIGHT AREA.  
 
COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORIES REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR WIDESPREAD MINOR  
FLOODING ACROSS THE SOUTH SHORE BACK BAYS OF NASSAU, GREAT SOUTH  
BAY, EASTERN LI BAYS AS WELL AS ALONG MUCH OF THE NORTH SHORE.  
ADVISORIES ALSO REMAIN IN EFFECT ACROSS SOUTHERN FAIRFIELD AND  
SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER. THE REMAINDER OF THE AREA RESIDES UNDER A  
COASTAL FLOOD STATEMENT AS WATER LEVELS APPROACH OR JUST EXCEED  
MINOR COASTAL FLOOD BENCHMARKS. FOR THE UPPER HARBOR AROUND THE  
BATTERY, WATER LEVELS SHOULD REMAIN LOW ENOUGH THAT NO STATEMENT WAS  
ISSUED.  
 
NO ADDITIONAL COASTAL FLOODING IS ANTICIPATED THE REST OF THE WEEK  
INTO THE UPCOMING WEEKEND.  
 

 
   
OKX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
CT...COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY FROM 1 PM TO 5 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON  
FOR CTZ009.  
NY...COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY FROM 1 PM TO 5 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON  
FOR NYZ071.  
COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY FROM 11 AM THIS MORNING TO 5 PM EST  
THIS AFTERNOON FOR NYZ078>081.  
COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY FROM 10 AM THIS MORNING TO 2 PM EST  
THIS AFTERNOON FOR NYZ179.  
NJ...NONE.  
MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 1 PM EST FRIDAY FOR ANZ331-332-335-  
338-340-345.  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 7 PM EST FRIDAY FOR ANZ350-353-355.  
 

 
 

 
 
SYNOPSIS...BR/DW  
NEAR TERM...BR  
SHORT TERM...BR  
LONG TERM...DW  
AVIATION...DS  
MARINE...BR/DW  
FIRE WEATHER...  
HYDROLOGY...BR/DW  
TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING...  
 
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