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FXUS61 KALY 202123  
AFDALY  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY  
423 PM EST WED NOV 20 2024  
   
SYNOPSIS
 
 
A WEATHER SYSTEM BRINGING WIDESPREAD RAINFALL BEGINS TONIGHT THAT  
CONTINUES INTO THE END OF THE WORK WEEK. IN THE SOUTHEAST AND  
CENTRAL CATSKILLS AND SOUTHERN ADIRONDACKS, RAIN TRANSITIONS  
OVER TO SNOW THURSDAY EVENING. BY SATURDAY MORNING, MOST  
LOCATIONS BECOME DRY WITH A FEW LINGERING SNOW SHOWERS IN THE  
SOUTHERN ADIRONDACKS, CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST CATSKILLS AS OUR  
WEATHER SYSTEM MOVES NORTHWARD. COOL TEMPERATURES CONTINUE  
THROUGH THIS WEEKEND.  
 

 
   
NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM THURSDAY MORNING/
 
 
AS OF 3:40 PM EST... CLOUDS CONTINUE TO INCREASE THIS EVENING  
AS A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM CONTINUES TO MOVE NORTHWARD ALONG THE  
ATLANTIC COAST. TEMPERATURES TONIGHT REMAIN ABOVE FREEZING DUE  
TO THE INCREASED CLOUDS, WITH LOWS IN THE UPPER 30S AND 40S.  
 
FOR TONIGHT, HIGH RESOLUTION AND ENSEMBLE FORECAST MODEL  
GUIDANCE IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT FOR THE ONSET TIMING OF RAINFALL  
TO BEGIN FOR EASTERN NEW YORK AND WESTERN NEW ENGLAND TONIGHT.  
BETWEEN 1 AM AND 5 AM EST, RAIN BEGINS TO MOVE FROM WEST TO EAST  
THAT CONTINUES INTO THE DAY TOMORROW. RAINFALL COULD BE  
PERIODICALLY MODERATE TO HEAVY IN SOUTHERN ULSTER AND DUTCHESS  
COUNTIES.  
 

 
   
SHORT TERM /6 AM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT/
 
 
*WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY ISSUED FOR WESTERN GREENE AND WESTERN  
ULSTER COUNTIES FROM 4 PM THURSDAY THROUGH 1 AM SATURDAY*  
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
- RAIN CONTINUES THROUGH FRIDAY.  
 
- RAIN TRANSITIONS TO SNOW THURSDAY NIGHT IN THE HIGH TERRAIN OF  
THE GREENS, SOUTHERN ADIRONDACKS, AND SOUTHEAST AND CENTRAL  
CATSKILLS WHERE THE CATSKILLS ARE FAVORED TO SEE THE MOST  
SNOWFALL WITH THIS STORM.  
 
THURSDAY... WIDESPREAD RAIN CONTINUES FOR EASTERN NEW YORK AND  
WESTERN NEW ENGLAND. RAINFALL COULD BE PERIODICALLY MODERATE TO  
HEAVY DURING THE MORNING HOURS AS THE CENTER OF THE LOW PRESSURE  
SYSTEM CONTINUES TO MOVE UP THE ATLANTIC COAST. THIS IS WHERE  
THE MY FORECAST CONFIDENCE BECOMES UNCERTAIN, HOW FAR WEST AND  
INLAND DOES THE CENTER OF THE LOW GO. FORECAST MODELS ARE  
FAVORING IT AT THIS FORECAST TIME TO PIVOT OVER CENTRAL NEW YORK  
FOR THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING WHERE THIS COULD BRING  
WET AND HEAVY SNOWFALL ACROSS THE HIGHEST ELEVATIONS OF CENTRAL  
AND SOUTHEAST CATSKILLS. THIS CAN'T BE STRESSED ENOUGH THAT THE  
SNOWFALL IS GOING TO BE HIGHLY ELEVATION DEPENDENT. ELEVATIONS  
ABOVE 3000 FEET (FOR EXAMPLE THE MOUNTAIN PEAKS OF THE  
CATSKILLS) COULD SEE SNOWFALL AMOUNTS BETWEEN 6 AND 12 INCHES.  
AS YOU GO LOWER IN ELEVATION IN THE CATSKILLS (BELOW 2500 FEET  
IN ELEVATION), WARMER AIR TEMPERATURES COULD ALLOW RAIN TO  
PERSIST LONGER BEFORE TRANSITIONING OVER TO SNOW WHERE 2 TO 6  
INCHES IS FORECASTED. IF FUTURE FORECAST MODELS SHOW A SHIFT TO  
THE WEST OR SOUTH OF THE CENTER OF THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM,  
LOWER OR HIGHER SNOWFALL AMOUNTS COULD OCCUR. AS CURRENT  
SNOWFALL AMOUNTS CONTINUE TO BE LOWER THAN WARNING CRITERIA FOR  
THE POPULATED CITIES IN WESTERN ULSTER AND GREENE COUNTIES, WE  
KEPT THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR THESE LOCATIONS AS  
SLIPPERY CONDITIONS WILL OCCUR THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY  
MORNING.  
 
RAINFALL AMOUNTS ARE BETWEEN 1 INCH AND 2 INCHES WIDESPREAD FROM  
TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING AS CONFIDENCE IS HIGH (GREATER  
THAN 75 PERCENT) ACROSS EASTERN NEW YORK AND WESTERN NEW  
ENGLAND FOR LOCATIONS TO EXPERIENCE THIS AS LATEST NATIONAL  
BLEND OF MODELS DATA 4.2 HAS HIGH PROBABILITIES FOR GREATER THAN  
1 INCH OF RAINFALL FOR 48 HOUR TOTALS.  
 
FOR TOMORROW AFTERNOON, HIGH RESOLUTION FORECAST MODELS ARE  
SUGGESTING A BRIEF BREAK IN THE PRECIPITATION FROM THE GREATER  
CAPITAL DISTRICT TO THE LAKE GEORGE-SARATOGA REGION. THIS IS WHY  
RAINFALL AMOUNTS HAVE LOWERED FOR THESE AREAS TO BETWEEN 0.5  
INCHES AND 1.5 INCHES. WHAT WE CALL A DRY SLOT COULD OCCUR  
DURING TOMORROW AFTERNOON WHICH GIVES US THIS BRIEF BREAK IN THE  
PRECIPITATION. RAIN DOES RETURN FOR THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH  
FRIDAY MORNING.  
 
FRIDAY AND SATURDAY...THE SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM DEPARTS  
OUR AREA FROM WEST TO EAST FRIDAY. A FEW LINGERING RAIN SHOWERS  
AND HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW SHOWERS COULD OCCUR FRIDAY INTO  
SATURDAY. TEMPERATURES FRIDAY MORNING COOL TO THE MID 30S FOR  
VALLEYS AND INTO THE 20S FOR MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN. FOR HIGH  
TEMPERATURES FRIDAY, HIGHER TERRAIN LOCATIONS STRUGGLE TO REACH  
ABOVE FREEZING BASED ON LATEST FORECAST GUIDANCE SO HIGHS ARE  
FORECASTED IN THE LOW 30S. FOR SATURDAY, DRY CONDITIONS RETURNS  
FROM SOUTH TO NORTH ACROSS EASTERN NEW YORK AND WESTERN NEW  
ENGLAND AS OUR WEATHER SYSTEM DEPARTS TO THE EAST.  
 

 
   
LONG TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/
 
 
THE VERTICALLY STACKED LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVES FROM NEAR NEW  
BRUNSWICK TO THE CANADIAN MARITIMES TO CLOSE THE WEEKEND. NORTH TO  
NORTHWEST FLOW CONTINUES ALOFT OVER NY AND NEW ENGLAND. A SFC  
TROUGH ROTATING AROUND THE OCCLUDED CYCLONE WILL FOCUS SOME ISOLATED  
TO SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS OVER THE WESTERN ADIRONDACKS WITH SOME  
ISOLATED TO SCATTERED SNOW TO RAIN SHOWERS OVER THE WESTERN AND  
CENTRAL MOHAWK VALLEY. IT WILL REMAIN BRISK AND CHILLY IN THE  
CYCLONIC FLOW. MAX TEMPS WILL BE IN THE 30S TO LOWER 40S OVER THE  
HILLS AND MTNS AND MID AND UPPER 40S IN THE VALLEYS. THE SCATTERED  
SNOW SHOWERS AND FLURRIES DIMINISH SUNDAY NIGHT WITH ONLY LIGHT  
ACCUMS EXPECTED OVER THE ADIRONDACK PARK. LOWS FALL BACK INTO THE  
MID 20S TO LOWER 30S.  
 
SOME FLAT MID AND UPPER LEVEL RIDGING BUILDS IN OVER THE REGION ON  
MONDAY. HOWEVER, A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM APPROACHES FROM THE MIDWEST  
AND LOWER GREAT LAKES REGION. MID AND UPPER LEVEL DIFFLUENT FLOW  
SETS UP OVER THE FORECAST AREA. CLOUDS WILL BE THICKENING AND LOWER  
AS WARM ADVECTION INCREASES AHEAD OF THE WARM FRONT. NBM  
PROBABILISTIC GUIDANCE INDICATES 25-50% CHANCES FOR A MIXTURE OF  
LIGHT RAIN/SNOW TO OVERSPREAD THE REGION MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY.  
THE BEST CHANCE FOR LIGHT SNOW ACCUMS WILL BE OVER THE HIGHER  
TERRAIN AND NORTH/NORTHWEST OF THE CAPITAL REGION MONDAY NIGHT INTO  
TUESDAY. MAX TEMPS WILL RUN A LITTLE ABOVE NORMAL ON MONDAY IN THE  
UPPER 40S TO LOWER 50S IN THE VALLEY AREAS AND UPPER 30S TO MID 40S  
OVER THE HIGHER TERRAIN. TEMPS MONDAY NIGHT WILL BE OF THE WET BULB  
VARIETY IN THE UPPER 20S TO MID 30S. THE PRECIPITATION TRANSITIONS  
TO RAIN DURING THE DAY TUESDAY WITH CONTINUED HIGH CHANCE TO LIKELY  
POPS. TEMPS WILL GENERALLY IN THE 40S TO LOWER 50S. SOME UPPER 30S  
ARE POSSIBLE OVER THE NORTHERN MTNS.  
 
A COLD FRONT MOVES THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY WITH SOME  
ISOLATED TO SCATTERED RAIN TO SNOW SNOW SHOWERS. THE BEST CHANCE  
FOR SNOW SHOWERS WILL BE OVER THE WEST FACING SLOPES OF THE  
ADIRONDACKS, SOUTHERN GREENS AND BERKSHIRES. TEMPS COOL DOWN TO  
SEASONABLE READINGS AND IT WILL BE BRISK WITH CYCLONIC FLOW  
PERSISTING. THE LATEST CPC DAY 8 TO 14 FORECAST 27 NOV TO 3 DEC FOR  
EASTERN NY AND WESTERN NEW ENGLAND IS FOR NEAR NORMAL TEMPS AND  
SLIGHTLY ABOVE NORMAL PRECIPITATION.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /20Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY/
 
 
FLYING CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE TO BE VFR THROUGH THE REST OF  
THE AFTERNOON AND INTO THE EARLY EVENING HOURS WITH LIGHT AND  
VARIABLE WINDS. WHILE THERE ARE JUST SOME PATCHY CLOUDS AROUND,  
MID LEVEL CLOUDS WILL INCREASE IN COVERAGE AND THICKNESS BY  
LATER TODAY, WITH BKN-OVC CIGS AROUND 5-8 KFT BY THE LATE  
EVENING HOURS FOR ALL SITES.  
 
THE OVERNIGHT WILL START OFF DRY, BUT A FRONTAL SYSTEM WILL BE  
APPROACHING FROM THE WEST. A SOLID LINE OF STEADY MODERATE TO  
LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL WILL BE MOVING IN FOR THE LATE NIGHT  
HOURS FROM SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST. IT MAY IMPACT KPOU AS EARLY  
AS 07Z, WITH RAIN STARTING AROUND KALB/KPSF 08Z TO 10Z AND KGFL  
BY 11Z. THE RAIN WILL QUICKLY LOWER VISIBILITY DOWN TO IFR  
LEVELS FOR ALL SITES WITH OVC CIGS AROUND 1-2 KFT. THE STEADIEST  
RAINFALL WILL LAST THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS, WITH THE RAIN  
BECOMING LIGHTER AND MORE INTERMITTENT TOWARDS THE AFTERNOON,  
WHEN A RETURN TO MVFR CONDITIONS LOOKS TO OCCUR FOR ALL SITES.  
NORTH TO NORTHEAST WINDS WILL BE AROUND 5 KTS OVERNIGHT AND  
INCREASE TO 5 TO 8 KTS DURING THE DAY ON THURSDAY. AT THIS  
POINT, LLWS DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE A BIG CONCERN, AS THE STRONGER  
WINDS ALOFT WILL BE ABOVE 2 KFT.  
 
OUTLOOK...  
 
THURSDAY NIGHT: HIGH OPERATIONAL IMPACT. DEFINITE RA.  
FRIDAY: HIGH OPERATIONAL IMPACT. LIKELY RA.  
FRIDAY NIGHT: MODERATE OPERATIONAL IMPACT. CHANCE OF SHRA.  
SATURDAY: MODERATE OPERATIONAL IMPACT. BREEZY. CHANCE OF SHRA.  
SATURDAY NIGHT: MODERATE OPERATIONAL IMPACT. BREEZY. CHANCE OF SHRA.  
SUNDAY: MODERATE OPERATIONAL IMPACT. WINDY WITH GUSTS TO 31 KTS. NO SIG WX.  
SUNDAY NIGHT: LOW OPERATIONAL IMPACT. BREEZY. NO SIG WX.  
MONDAY: NO OPERATIONAL IMPACT. NO SIG WX.  
 

 
   
FIRE WEATHER
 
 
MAXIMUM WIND GUSTS TODAY WILL BE LESS THAN 10 KT WITH MINIMUM RH  
VALUES OF 45 TO 55%, WHICH WILL RESULT IN SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED  
RISK OF FIRE SPREAD COMPARED TO PREVIOUS DAYS. NEVERTHELESS, PER  
COLLABORATION WITH WFO BOX AND STATE PARTNERS IN CT/MA, AN SPS  
WAS ISSUED FOR WESTERN CT/MA FOR ONGOING DRY FUELS. WIDESPREAD  
SOAKING RAIN IS EXPECTED TONIGHT AND TOMORROW, WHICH SHOULD PUT  
AN END TO ANY FIRE WEATHER CONCERNS FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.  
 

 
   
ALY WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
CT...NONE.  
NY...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FROM 4 PM THURSDAY TO 1 AM EST  
SATURDAY FOR NYZ058-063.  
MA...NONE.  
VT...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
SYNOPSIS...WEBB  
NEAR TERM...WEBB  
SHORT TERM...WEBB  
LONG TERM...WASULA  
AVIATION...FRUGIS  
FIRE WEATHER...MAIN  
 
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