908  
FXUS61 KALY 290213  
AFDALY  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY  
913 PM EST TUE JAN 28 2025  
   
SYNOPSIS
 
 
A CLIPPER TONIGHT WILL BRING LIGHT TO MODERATE SNOWFALL TO THE  
REGION WITH SNOW OUTSIDE THE HIGHER TERRAIN ENDING BEFORE  
SUNRISE. THEN, WINDS TURN GUSTY AGAIN WITH ADDITIONAL SNOW  
SQUALLS LATE WEDNESDAY MORNING INTO THE AFTERNOON RESULTING IN  
HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS. LAKE EFFECT AND UPSLOPE SNOW ENDS  
WEDNESDAY NIGHT.  
 

 
   
NEAR TERM /THROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT/
 
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
- A PERIOD OF LIGHT TO MODERATE SNOW TONIGHT WILL RESULT IN  
SLIPPERY TRAVEL CONDITIONS FOR VALLEY AREAS FROM THE CAPITAL  
DISTRICT NORTH AND WESTWARD FOR THE WEDNESDAY MORNING COMMUTE.  
 
- WINDS WILL TURN GUSTY TOMORROW WITH 30 TO 60% CONFIDENCE FOR  
WIND GUSTS TO EXCEED 40MPH. GUSTY WINDS CAN RESULT IN BLOWING  
SNOW LEADING TO REDUCED VISIBILITY. IF CONFIDENCE IN WIND  
GUSTS EXCEEDING 45MPH INCREASES, A WIND ADVISORY MAY BE  
ISSUED.  
 
- CONFIDENCE IS INCREASING FOR SNOW SQUALLS TOMORROW LATE  
MORNING INTO THE AFTERNOON (11AM TO 6PM). BRIEF WHITEOUT  
CONDITIONS AND A FLASH FREEZE ARE POSSIBLE DURING ANY SNOW  
SQUALL AS TEMPERATURES IN THE MID TO UPPER 30S QUICKLY FALL  
INTO THE UPPER 20S. SUCH CONDITIONS MAY OCCUR JUST BEFORE OR  
DURING THE P.M COMMUTE.  
 
DISCUSSION:  
   
UPDATE
 
AS OF 910 PM EST, SNOW HAS STARTED TO FALL OVER THE  
PAST HOUR FOR AREAS WEST OF THE HUDSON VALLEY WITH  
PRECIPITATION ADVANCING EASTWARD. MOST AREAS WILL BEGIN TO SEE  
SNOWFALL OVER THE NEXT 1-3 HOURS IF IT HASN'T STARTED YET. THE  
EXCEPTION MAY BE ACROSS FAR SOUTHERN AREAS AS MOST OF THE  
PRECIPITATION COULD PASS BY TO THE NORTH OR NOT BE ABLE TO  
OVERCOME THE LOW-LEVEL DRY AIR MASS. ONLY SOME MINOR ADJUSTMENTS  
TO POPS NEEDED TO REFLECT LATEST OBS. MOST AREAS HAVE NOW  
REACHED THEIR EXPECTED OVERNIGHT LOWS WITH TEMPERATURES NOW  
EXPECTED TO SLOWLY RISE THROUGH THE REST OF THE NIGHT REACHING  
THE 20S AND 30S BY DAYBREAK.  
 
PREVIOUS DISCUSSION:  
LATE AFTERNOON SUN GIVES WAY TO INCREASING CLOUDS THIS EVENING  
AS A CLIPPER FROM THE GREAT LAKES SHIFTS EASTWARD. A SURGE OF  
WARM AIR ADVECTION AHEAD OF ITS WARM FRONT WILL RESULT IN A  
PERIOD OF SNOW INITIALLY REACHING OUR WESTERN MOHAWK VALLEY AND  
WESTERN/SOUTHERN ADIRONDACK AREAS THIS EVENING (7 - 10PM)  
BEFORE SHIFTING EASTWARD INTO THE UPPER HUDSON VALLEY, CAPITAL  
DISTRICT, NORTHERN/EASTERN CATSKILLS AND SOUTHERN GREENS/WESTERN  
MA REGIONS BY 10 - 1AM TONIGHT. TEMPERATURES REMAIN COLD TONIGHT  
FALLING INTO THE TEENS SO SNOW WILL QUICKLY TURN ANY UNTREATED  
SURFACES SLIPPERY. THE LOW AND MID-LEVEL JET QUICKLY NOSES INTO  
THE NORTHEAST BY AROUND MIDNIGHT SO SNOW WILL LIKELY TURN  
MODERATE AND STEADY FOR A BRIEF PERIOD AS ISENTROPIC LIFT  
INTENSIFIES OVERNIGHT. FORECAST SOUNDINGS ALSO SHOW LIFT  
INTERSECTING THE DGZ FOR A BRIEF PERIOD. HOWEVER, THE STRONGEST  
FORCING IS RATHER SHORT-LIVED AND ONLY LAST FOR A SHORT-WINDOW  
ON THE ORDER TO 3 TO 6 HOURS AS THE WARM FRONT LIFTS TO OUR  
NORTH AND EAST. IN FACT, MOST OF THE STEADIEST SNOW WILL END  
BEFORE SUNRISE AND WE ONLY EXPECT 1 TO 4 INCHES OF SNOW FOR MOST  
AREAS THROUGH 7 AM. THE EXCEPTION IS THE SOUTHERN ADIRONDACKS  
AND TO A LESSER EXTENT THE SOUTHERN GREENS WHERE SOUTHERLY FLOW  
WILL UPSLOPE THE TERRAIN AND RESULT IN HIGHER SNOWFALL RATES AND  
AMOUNTS. THE HREF EVEN SHOWS 30 TO 60% CHANCE FOR SNOWFALL  
RATES TO EXCEED 1 INCH FROM AMOUNT 11PM THROUGH 5AM. THUS, WE  
HAVE 5 TO 7 INCHES IN THE SOUTHERN ADIRONDACKS WITH 2 TO 5  
INCHES ALONG THE SPINE OF THE SOUTHERN GREENS.  
 
WITH THE WARM FRONT AND STRONGEST ISENTROPIC LIFTS EXITING INTO  
NEW ENGLAND BEFORE SUNRISE, SNOWFALL WILL QUICKLY DECREASE IN  
COVERAGE AND INTENSITY (EVENING STOPPING ALL TOGETHER IN VALLEY  
AREAS) BY THE MORNING COMMUTE. HOWEVER, MOTORISTS SHOULD STILL  
ALLOW EXTRA TRAVEL TIME TO ARRIVE AT THEIR DESTINATION GIVEN  
OVERNIGHT SNOWFALL AND LIGHT TO MODERATE SNOW ACCUMULATIONS.  
WHILE MOST VALLEY AREAS WILL BE MAINLY DRY WEDNESDAY MORNING,  
UPSLOPE SNOW WILL CONTINUE IN THE SOUTHERN ADIRONDACKS AND  
SOUTHERN GREENS. DESPITE THE DRY PERIOD, SOUTHWESTERLY WIND WILL  
TURN GUSTY BY LATE WEDNESDAY MORNING AS THE WARM SECTOR  
OVERSPREADS THE REGION WITH FORECAST SOUNDINGS SHOWING DEEP  
BOUNDARY MIXING ENSUING. WITH THE STRONG 30-45KTS LOW AND MID-  
LEVEL STILL OVERHEAD, SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS BECOME SUSTAINED 10 -  
20MPH WITH GUSTS REACHING UP TO 30 - 40MPH. UP TO 45MPH IN THE  
HILL TOWNS AND HIGHER TERRAIN. WHILE PROBABILISTIC GUIDANCE  
SHOWS 30 TO 60% CHANCE FOR GUSTS TO EXCEED 45MPH, WE HELD OFF ON  
A WIND ADVISORY FOR NOW. WE MAY ISSUE ONE IN FUTURE UPDATES IF  
CONFIDENCE INCREASES. GUSTY WINDS CAN ALSO LEAD TO BLOWING SNOW  
AND REDUCED VISIBILITY ESPECIALLY FOR ELEVATIONS 1000 FT AND  
HIGHER. THE DEEP MIXING WITHIN THE WARM SECTOR WILL ALSO  
SUPPORT A PERIOD OF SOMEWHAT MILD TEMPERATURES REACHING INTO THE  
MID TO UPPER 30S WITH EVEN SOME REACHING AROUND 40 IN THE  
HUDSON VALLEY BY LATE MORNING/MIDDAY. THE MILD TEMPERATURES WILL  
BE SHORT- LIVED, HOWEVER, AS THE ASSOCIATED ARCTIC COLD FRONT  
QUICKLY SWEEPS THROUGH THE NORTHEAST BY LATE MORNING INTO THE  
AFTERNOON.  
 
THE INCOMING ARCTIC COLD FRONT RAISES CONCERNS FOR SNOW SQUALLS  
LATE MORNING THROUGH THE AFTERNOON (11AM TO 6PM) AS SUFFICIENT  
SFC BUOYANCY DEVELOPS AHEAD OF THE FRONT (50 - 80 J/KG) WITH  
SOME WEAK SFC CONVERGENCE AND A TIGHT THERMAL GRADIENT ALONG THE  
FRONT SUPPORTING AREAS OF ENHANCED FGEN. DURING ANY SNOW SQUALL,  
BRIEF WHITEOUT CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE AS WIND SHIFT TO  
NORTHWEST AND GUST BRIEFLY UP TO 40-45MPH. GIVEN TEMPERATURES  
WARMING ABOVE FREEZING LATE WED A.M, A FLASH FREEZE IS ALSO  
POSSIBLE AS TEMPERATURES RAPIDLY DROP INTO THE 20S BEHIND THE  
FRONT WED AFTERNOON. WITH A SURGE OF COLD AIR FOLLOWING THE  
ARCTIC FRONT, LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL QUICKLY DEVELOP IN ITS WAKE  
LATE WED P.M INTO WED EVENING WITH HIGH RES GUIDANCE INDICATING  
THE LAKE BANDS EXTEND FAR INLAND REACHING THE NORTHERN AND  
EASTERN CATSKILLS AND POTENTIALLY EVEN THE UPPER HUDSON VALLEY  
AND WESTERN NEW ENGLAND. ANY LAKE EFFECT SNOW BAND CAN QUICKLY  
PRODUCT UP TO 1-2 INCHES OF LIGHT/FLUFFY SNOW. UPSLOPE SNOW ALSO  
CONTINUES IN THE SOUTHERN GREENS AND NORTHERN BERKSHIRES AND  
WESTERN ADIRONDACKS WED EVENING. GUSTY WINDS WILL ALSO BE  
ONGOING WED EVENING REACHING UP TO 30-35MPH SO BLOWING SNOW  
REMAINS POSSIBLE.  
 
LAKE EFFECT AND UPSLOPE SNOW CONTINUES THROUGH MIDNIGHT WED  
NIGHT BUT SHOULD FINALLY WEAKEN BY 06 - 12 UTC AS SUBSIDENCE  
BUILDS OVER THE LAKES IN THE WAKE OF THE DEPARTING TROUGH AXIS.  
THEREFORE, WINTER STORM WARNINGS AND ADVISORIES WERE ALL SET TO  
EXPIRE BY 06 UTC THURSDAY. IT WILL TURN COLD WED NIGHT AS WELL  
WITH TEMPERATURES FALLING INTO THE TEENS AND EVEN SINGLE DIGITS  
IN THE SOUTHERN ADIRONDACKS/SOUTHERN GREENS.  
 
ALL IN ALL, EXPECTING STORM TOTAL SNOW AMOUNTS TO REACH 1 TO 3  
INCHES IN VALLEY AREAS WITH 3 TO 6 INCHES IN THE NORTHERN/EASTERN  
CATSKILLS, CENTRAL MOHAWK VALLEY, UPPER HUDSON VALLEY,  
RENSSELAER PLATEAU, AND NORTHERN BERKSHIRES. THE HIGHEST AMOUNTS  
EXPECTED ALONG THE SPINE OF THE SOUTHERN GREENS AND SOUTHERN/WESTERN  
ADIRONDACKS WITH 5 - 8 INCHES AND 6 - 12 INCHES, RESPECTIVELY.  
 

 
   
SHORT TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/
 
 
THURSDAY WILL FEATURE A BRIEF BREAK FROM THE BUSY PATTERN AS  
HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE NORTHEAST GIVING US MOSTLY SUNNY  
SKIES AND WEAKER WINDS COMPARED TO PREVIOUS DAYS. TEMPERATURES  
REMAIN COLD UNDER WESTERLY FLOW MAINTAINING COLD AIR ADVECTION.  
DAYTIME HIGH TEMPERATURES LIKELY STRUGGLE TO RISE OUT OF THE 20S  
EXCEPT IN THE MID-HUDSON VALLEY WHICH SHOULD REACH THE FREEZING  
MARK. CLOUDS INCREASE THURSDAY NIGHT AS WARM AIR ADVECTION  
INCREASES AHEAD OF OUR NEXT DISTURBANCE. LUCKILY, MOST OF THE  
PRECIPITATION SHOULD HOLD OFF UNTIL FRIDAY MORNING.  
 

 
   
LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/
 
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
- HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF PRECIPITATION (50-70%) BOTH ON FRIDAY AND  
AGAIN ON SUNDAY NIGHT.  
 
- A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY REMAINS REGARDING P-TYPES FRIDAY, WITH  
MAINLY RAIN OR SNOW EXPECTED, BUT LOW-END PROBABILITIES (UNDER 20%)  
FOR MIXED PRECIPITATION AS WELL.  
 
DISCUSSION:  
 
AS HAS BEEN ADVERTISED FOR THE PAST SEVERAL DAYS, THE WEATHER  
PATTERN WILL REMAIN ACTIVE THROUGH THE LONG TERM PERIOD. THERE  
CONTINUES TO BE A LARGE AMOUNT OF RUN-TO-RUN INCONSISTENCIES IN THE  
MODELS, AS WELL AS DIFFERENCES WITHIN THE ENSEMBLE OUTPUT AS WELL.  
WHILE THERE WILL BE THE POTENTIAL FOR A FEW PRECIPITATION EVENTS,  
EXACT AMOUNTS AND TYPES REMAIN RATHER UNCERTAIN AT THIS TIME,  
LEADING TO A LOW CONFIDENCE FORECAST.  
 
MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW A PROGRESSIVE SHORTWAVE MOVING FROM  
THE OHIO VALLEY TOWARDS THE MID ATLANTIC ON FRIDAY, WITH A SURFACE  
LOW TRACKING NEAR OR CLOSE TO THE FORECAST AREAS. AFTER A COLD START  
TO THE DAY, TEMPS (BOTH ALOFT AND AT THE SURFACE) SHOULD BE WARMING,  
AND AREAS FROM THE MOHAWK VALLEY ON SOUTHWARD WILL BE RATHER  
MARGINAL FOR WINTRY WEATHER, AS TEMPS RISE ABOVE FREEZING. JUST HOW  
FAR NORTH THIS WARM AIR GETS WILL DEPEND ON THE EXACT STORM TRACK.  
THE 12Z GEFS SUGGEST A VARIETY OF P-TYPES WILL BE POSSIBLE ACROSS  
THE REGION, WITH RAIN, SNOW AND FREEZING RAIN ALL A POTENTIAL THREAT  
ACROSS THE REGION. FOR NOW, WILL LEAN THE FORECAST TOWARDS RAIN OR  
SNOW BASED ON SURFACE TEMPS, WITH POPS GENERALLY IN THE 50%-70%  
RANGE AT THIS TIME.  
 
AT THIS POINT, IT APPEARS THAT THE ADIRONDACKS SHOULD REMAIN MAINLY  
SNOW, WITH THE POTENTIAL OF ADVISORY LEVEL AMOUNTS (4"+) OF SNOWFALL  
(OVER 30% CHANCE ACCORDING TO THE LATEST 12Z GEFS/EURO ENSEMBLES).  
MEANWHILE, THERE LOOKS TO BE A LOWER POTENTIAL (UNDER 20%) FOR  
ADVISORY-LEVEL SNOW TO THE SOUTH, BUT AT LEAST A LIGHT ACCUMULATION  
OF SNOW IS POSSIBLE FOR THE REST OF THE AREA, ESPECIALLY EARLY ON  
FRIDAY AND AGAIN FOR THE TAIL END OF THE END AS IT WINDS DOWN ON  
FRIDAY EVENING INTO FRIDAY NIGHT. THERE COULD BE A NARROW AREA  
WHERE SOME SLEET OR FREEZING RAIN OCCURS IN TRANSITION ZONE BETWEEN  
THE RAIN AND SNOW, BUT THE EXACT LOCATION OF THIS IS UNCERTAIN, AS  
THE 12Z GEFS SHOWS A LARGE DEGREE OF VARIABILITY WITHIN THE MEMBERS  
OF THE EXACT PLACEMENT FOR WHERE MIXED PRECIPITATION COULD OCCUR.  
 
IT SHOULD BRIEF COOL DOWN BEHIND THIS SYSTEM, WITH MUCH COLDER TEMPS  
RETURNING FOR SATURDAY INTO SATURDAY NIGHT. AFTER DAYTIME TEMPS  
BELOW FREEZING IN THE 20S, LOWS LOOK COLD ON SAT NIGHT, WITH LOWS  
ONLY IN THE SINGLE DIGITS TO LOW TEENS. BREEZY CONDITIONS ON  
SATURDAY WILL MAKE IT FEEL EVEN COLDER AS WELL.  
 
ANOTHER SYSTEM WILL BE POTENTIALLY IMPACTING THE REGION FOR LATER  
SUNDAY INTO SUNDAY NIGHT. THIS LOOKS TO A NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM,  
ALTHOUGH THE EXACT TRACK AND HOW MUCH PRECIP IS STILL IN QUESTION.  
WITH A COLDER AIR MASS IN PLACE, P-TYPE WOULD MORE LIKELY BE SNOW  
WITH THIS SYSTEM ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA, BUT PLENTY OF UNCERTAINTY  
REGARDING EXACT AMOUNTS AND TIMING. MODELS SEEMS TO HAVE SHOWN SOME  
CHANGES REGARDING THE TRACK OF THE SHORTWAVE AND JUST HOW MUCH  
PRECIP MAKES IT INTO THE AREA, AS THERE COULD BE A BETTER POTENTIAL  
NORTH OF THE REGION. STILL, THERE SEEMS TO BE ENOUGH OF A POTENTIAL  
FOR AT LEAST SOME PRECIP FOR POPS IN THE 50-70% RANGE FOR NOW, BUT  
WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR TRENDS. TEMPS WILL GENERALLY BE IN THE 20S  
TO LOW 30S THROUGH THIS EVENT.  
 
SOME LINGERING SNOW SHOWERS COULD CONTINUE INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK  
DEPENDING ON HOW QUICK THE UPPER LEVEL SHORTWAVE MOVES ACROSS THE  
REGION. TEMPS LOOK CLOSE TO SEASONAL NORMALS AT THIS TIME TO START  
NEXT WEEK.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /02Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/
 
 
FLYING CONDITIONS ARE CURRENTLY VFR WITH JUST BKN-OVC HIGH LEVEL  
CLOUDS IN PLACE. HOWEVER, A CLIPPER SYSTEM IS QUICKLY  
APPROACHING THE REGION. STEADY LIGHT SNOWFALL IS EXPECTED TO  
MOVE INTO KGFL, KALB AND KPSF BY 03Z-04Z, BRINGING FLYING  
CONDITIONS DOWN TO IFR WITHIN STEADY LIGHT SNOWFALL. VISIBILITY  
WILL BE IN THE 1-3SM RANGE. INITIALLY, CEILINGS WILL LOWER TO  
AROUND 3 KFT, BUT WILL GRADUALLY DROP TO AROUND 1-2 KFT BY THE  
MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. MEANWHILE, KPOU WILL BE ON THE EDGE OF THE  
STEADY PRECIP. WILL INCLUDE A TEMPO THERE FOR IFR CONDITIONS,  
BUT MOST OF THE TIME, FLYING CONDITIONS WILL BE IN THE MVFR  
RANGE THERE FOR THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.  
 
STEADY LIGHT SNOW WILL TAPER BY 08Z-09Z OR SO FOR ALL SITES.  
SOME ADDITIONAL PASSING SNOW SHOWERS OR FLURRIES ARE EXPECTED  
THROUGH MID- MORNING. ANOTHER BRIEF ROUND OF HEAVIER SNOW  
SHOWERS/SQUALLS MAY ACCOMPANY THE CLIPPER'S COLD FRONT IN THE  
14Z-18Z RANGE. THIS COULD ALLOW FOR A BRIEF PERIOD OF IFR  
VISIBILITY AND GUSTY WINDS. BEHIND THE COLD FRONT, SKIES WILL BE  
CLEARING OUT FOR THE REST OF WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.  
 
WESTERLY WINDS THIS EVENING WILL BECOME SOUTH TO SOUTHWEST  
AROUND 5-10 KTS FOR ALL SITES. WINDS WILL INCREASE DURING THE  
OVERNIGHT AND BECOME SOUTHWEST AROUND 10 KTS TOWARDS DAYBREAK  
WEDNESDAY. ON WEDNESDAY MORNING, WEST TO SOUTHWEST WINDS WILL BE  
10-15 KTS WITH A FEW HIGHER GUSTS. WINDS WILL BECOME WEST-  
NORTHWEST BEHIND THE COLD FRONT ON WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND  
INCREASE TO 15-20 KTS, WITH SOME GUSTS IN THE 25-35 KT RANGE.  
STRONG GUSTY WINDS MAY ALSO ACCOMPANY ANY SNOW SQUALL ALONG THE  
FRONT DURING THE WEDNESDAY MIDDAY HOURS.  
 
OUTLOOK...  
 
WEDNESDAY NIGHT: MODERATE OPERATIONAL IMPACT. WINDY WITH GUSTS TO 31 KTS. CHANCE OF SHSN.  
THURSDAY: NO OPERATIONAL IMPACT. NO SIG WX.  
THURSDAY NIGHT: NO OPERATIONAL IMPACT. NO SIG WX.  
FRIDAY: HIGH OPERATIONAL IMPACT. LIKELY RA...SN.  
FRIDAY NIGHT: MODERATE OPERATIONAL IMPACT. BREEZY. CHANCE OF SN.  
SATURDAY: LOW OPERATIONAL IMPACT. BREEZY. NO SIG WX.  
SATURDAY NIGHT: NO OPERATIONAL IMPACT. NO SIG WX.  
SUNDAY: MODERATE OPERATIONAL IMPACT. CHANCE OF SHSN.  
 

 
   
ALY WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
CT...NONE.  
NY...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 1 AM EST THURSDAY FOR NYZ040>042-  
047-054-058-063-083.  
WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 1 AM EST THURSDAY FOR NYZ032-033-  
038-039-082.  
MA...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 1 AM EST THURSDAY FOR MAZ001.  
VT...WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 1 AM EST THURSDAY FOR VTZ013-014.  
 

 
 

 
 
SYNOPSIS...SPECIALE  
NEAR TERM...RATHBUN/SPECIALE  
SHORT TERM...SPECIALE  
LONG TERM...FRUGIS  
AVIATION...FRUGIS  
 
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