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FXUS61 KALY 080505  
AFDALY  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY  
105 AM EDT THU MAY 8 2025  
   
SYNOPSIS  
 
A COLD FRONT WILL PRODUCE A FEW SHOWERS OVER THE  
ADIRONDACKS THIS MORNING, OTHERWISE DRY CONDITIONS PERSIST MOST OF  
THE MORNING BEFORE OUR NEXT STORM SYSTEM BRINGS A WIDESPREAD,  
PROLONGED RAINFALL LATE TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT. A MUCH NEEDED  
RESPITE FROM WET WEATHER COMES IN TIME FOR MOTHER'S DAY SUNDAY AND  
INTO THE BEGINNING OF NEXT WEEK WITH TEMPERATURES GRADUALLY  
MODERATING ABOVE NORMAL.  
 
 
   
NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM THIS MORNING/  
   
UPDATE...AS OF 105 AM EDT  
AN MID AND UPPER LEVEL TROUGH  
CONTINUES TO BE SITUATED OVER QUEBEC WITH CYCLONIC FLOW  
PERSISTING ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. A COLD FRONT IS NORTH AND  
WEST OF THE CAPITAL REGION. CLOUD COVER IS VARIABLE. WE HAVE  
TRENDED TO CLOUDY/MOSTLY CLOUDY CONDITIONS EXPECT FOR PARTLY  
CLOUDY SKIES CLOSER TO I-84. A FEW SHOWERS MAY IMPACT LOCATIONS  
NORTH OF ROUTE 28 IN THE ADIRONDACKS AND WE ADDED A SLIGHT  
CHANCE THERE THIS MORNING. THIS BOUNDARY WILL SLOWLY DIP  
SOUTH/SOUTHEAST WITH MOISTURE CONVERGENCE LIMITED. WE STARTED TO  
INCREASE POPS SLIGHTLY ACROSS THE EASTERN CATSKILLS BY THE LATE  
MORNING. TEMPS HAVE SETTLED IN THE 50S WITH SOME UPPER 40S OVER  
THE SOUTHERN DACKS. FOR EXAMPLE, OLD FORGE IN THE NYS MESONET  
IS 47F THIS HOUR. LOWS WILL BE MAINLY IN THE 40S TO LOWER 50S  
WITH SOME UPPER 30S POSSIBLE IN POCKETS OF THE SOUTHERN DACKS.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM /6 AM THIS MORNING THROUGH SATURDAY/  
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
- INCREASING CONFIDENCE IN THE POTENTIAL FOR ANOTHER WIDESPREAD  
RAIN EVENT LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT WHICH  
COULD POSE THE THREAT FOR RIVER RISES, PONDING OF WATER IN  
URBAN AND POOR DRAINAGE AREAS, AND ISOLATED FLASH FLOODING  
DUE TO ANTECEDENT, VERY WET SOILS.  
 
- LOW TO MEDIUM PROBABILITIES (30 TO 60%) IN AT LEAST 1 INCH OF  
RAIN FALLING ACROSS MUCH OF EASTERN NEW YORK AND WESTERN NEW  
ENGLAND WITH THE GREATEST PROBABILITIES SPANNING AREAS ALONG,  
SOUTH, AND EAST OF I-90.  
 
DISCUSSION:  
THURSDAY BEGINS DRY, THOUGH CLOUDY, AHEAD OF OUR NEXT SYSTEM.  
MOST AREAS SHOULD REMAIN DRY THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING, THOUGH  
SOME LIGHT SHOWERS WILL BE POSSIBLE BEGINNING EARLY IN THE  
AFTERNOON MAINLY IN THE EASTERN CATSKILLS, MID-HUDSON VALLEY,  
AND SOUTHWESTERN NEW ENGLAND AS THE AFOREMENTIONED BACKDOOR COLD  
FRONT SLOWS AND STALLS JUST TO THE SOUTH OF OUR CWA. HIGH  
TEMPERATURES THURSDAY WILL BE SOMEWHAT VARIED WITH UPPER 40S/MID  
50S ACROSS HIGHER ELEVATIONS AND UPPER 50S TO LOW 70S  
ELSEWHERE.  
 
WHILE THE AFOREMENTIONED CONDITIONS PREVAIL AT THE SURFACE ON  
THURSDAY, ALOFT, A POTENT, POSITIVELY-TILTED SHORTWAVE WILL BE  
DIGGING SOUTH AND EAST INTO THE NORTHEAST OHIO VALLEY/SOUTHEAST  
GREAT LAKES/WESTERN NEW YORK. MEANWHILE, NEAR THE COASTAL  
CAROLINAS, A WEAK SURFACE LOW/INVERTED TROUGH BEGINS TO TAKE  
SHAPE AND NOSE NORTHWARD. AS THIS HAPPENS, HEIGHT FALLS FROM THE  
DEEPENING SHORTWAVE WILL TRANSLATE TO A STRENGTHENING OF THE  
INVERTED SURFACE TROUGH. POSITIVE VORTICITY ADVECTION AND  
ENHANCED LOW-LEVEL CONVERGENCE ATTRIBUTED TO THE AFOREMENTIONED  
FEATURES WILL ALIGN WITH THE STALLED BOUNDARY TO INDUCE LIFT  
SUFFICIENT TO PRODUCING A STRATIFORM AREA OF RAIN THAT WILL  
SPREAD INTO THE REGION BY THURSDAY EVENING FROM SOUTHWEST TO  
NORTHEAST.  
 
BY EARLY FRIDAY MORNING, THE ONCE SHORTWAVE WILL HAVE DEEPENED  
INTO A CLOSED UPPER LOW, CONTINUING TO DEEPEN TO THE SOUTH AND  
EAST WHILE SLOWLY TAKING ON A MORE NEUTRAL TILT. IN RESPONSE,  
THE INVERTED SURFACE TROUGH STRENGTHENS WITH THE DEEPENING OF  
ITS PARENT LOW, CLOSELY HUGGING THE MID-ATLANTIC COAST. RAIN  
WILL THEREFORE CONTINUE, BECOMING MODERATE TO POTENTIALLY  
LOCALLY HEAVY, ESPECIALLY SOUTH AND EAST OF THE CAPITAL DISTRICT  
THROUGH FRIDAY. ONCE THE LOW BECOMES NEUTRALLY TILTED AND BEGINS  
TO MOVE OVERHEAD FRIDAY EVENING INTO FRIDAY NIGHT, THE COASTAL  
LOW WILL BECOME WRAPPED UP IN ITS LEADING EDGE, SHIFTING THE  
BEST FORCING OFF TO OUR EAST. RAIN WILL CONTINUE THROUGH FRIDAY  
NIGHT, BUT RATES WILL BEGIN TO LESSEN. TIMING ON THE ACTUAL  
CEASING OF RAIN IS UNCERTAIN AT THIS TIME GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTY  
SURROUNDING THE TRACK AND TIMING OF SUCH IN THE GUIDANCE AS IT  
PERTAINS TO THIS SYSTEM. HOWEVER, WITH PERSISTENT CYCLONIC FLOW  
REMAINING DOMINANT THROUGH SATURDAY, SHOWERS WILL LIKELY PERSIST  
THROUGH AT LEAST THE MORNING AND POSSIBLY INTO THE AFTERNOON.  
THAT SAID, THESE WILL LIKELY NOT LEAD TO SIGNIFICANT ADDITIONAL  
ACCUMULATIONS.  
 
WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT 0.50 TO 2 INCHES  
IS EXPECTED REGIONWIDE WITH LOCALIZED HIGHER AMOUNTS OF UPWARDS  
OF 2.5 INCHES IN LITCHFIELD COUNTY. TIMING AND EVOLUTION OF THE  
SYSTEM WILL SIGNIFICANTLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE RESULTING RAINFALL  
AMOUNTS. HOWEVER, WITH MOST OF THE REGION HAVING RECEIVED  
SEVERAL INCHES OF RAIN JUST DAYS PRIOR, THIS AMOUNT OF RAIN WILL  
LIKELY CAUSE ADDITIONAL RIVER RISES, PONDING OF WATER IN URBAN  
AND POOR DRAINAGE AREAS, AND ISOLATED FLASH FLOODING. SEE THE  
HYDROLOGY DISCUSSION BELOW FOR ADDITIONAL DETAILS.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/  
 
A REGIONWIDE, MUCH-NEEDED RESPITE FROM RAIN BEGINS SATURDAY  
NIGHT AS THE AFOREMENTIONED SYSTEM FULLY DEPARTS OFF TO OUR  
NORTH AND EAST. LARGE-SCALE SUBSIDENCE WILL INCREASE ACROSS THE  
NORTHEAST WITH A SURFACE ANTICYCLONE BUILDING EASTWARD IN  
TANDEM WITH RIDGING ALOFT. BEAUTIFUL SPRING WEATHER CAN  
THEREFORE BE EXPECTED FOR THE MOTHER'S DAY HOLIDAY WITH MAINLY  
CLEAR SKIES AND HIGH TEMPERATURES IN THE LOW 60S TO LOW 70S.  
SUNDAY WILL LIKELY BE THE COOLEST DAY OF THE LONG TERM PERIOD  
AS AMPLIFICATION OF THE SURFACE HIGH AND UPPER-LEVEL RIDGE LEAD  
TO WARMING ALOFT. 850 MB TEMPERATURES WILL REACH ~ +10C TO +12C  
BY MONDAY AFTERNOON, TRANSLATING TO WIDESPREAD 70S WITH POCKETS  
OF UPPER 60S ACROSS HIGHER ELEVATIONS.  
 
FAVORABLE WEATHER CONTINUES THROUGH TUESDAY, THOUGH CLOUDS WILL  
GENERALLY BE ON THE INCREASE AHEAD OF THE NEXT SYSTEM THAT LOOKS  
TO BRING RAIN SHOWERS TUESDAY NIGHT. THERE ARE SOME MODEL  
DIFFERENCES IN THE PORTRAYAL OF THE SOUTHERN STREAM SYSTEM THAT  
WILL BRING OUR NEXT CHANCE OF RAIN TUESDAY NIGHT, SO FOR NOW  
MAINTAINED JUST SLIGHT TO CHANCE POPS UNTIL CONFIDENCE  
INCREASES. HIGHS WILL BE SIMILAR TO THOSE OF MONDAY COURTESY OF  
850 MB TEMPERATURES MAINTAINING THEIR +10C TO +12C VALUES. LOW  
TEMPERATURES THROUGHOUT THE EXTENDED FORECAST PERIOD WILL BEGIN  
IN THE UPPER 30S TO UPPER 40S SATURDAY NIGHT BUT BY TUESDAY  
NIGHT, VALUES WILL BE FAIRLY MILD IN THE 50S.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /06Z THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY/  
 
THROUGH 00Z THURSDAY...BKN-OVC CIGS EXPECTED THROUGH THE 24 HOUR  
TAF PERIOD. INITIALLY, CIGS ARE AT VFR LEVELS EARLY THIS  
EVENING. HOWEVER, WITH THE GRADUAL APPROACH OF AN UPPER LEVEL  
DISTURBANCE CIGS ARE EXPECTED TO LOWER TO MVFR LEVELS THIS  
EVENING INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. CIGS MAY REMAIN VFR AT KPOU.  
CIGS COULD BRIEFLY REACH IFR LEVELS AT KPSF OVERNIGHT, BUT NOT  
HIGH ENOUGH CONFIDENCE TO MENTION IN TAFS AT THIS TIME. MAINLY  
MVFR CIGS SHOULD PERSIST ON THURSDAY. WITH LOW PRESSURE  
ORGANIZING OVER THE MID ATLANTIC REGION LATE THURSDAY, CHANCES  
FOR RAIN WILL START TO INCREASE LATE IN THE 24 HOUR TAF PERIOD.  
WINDS WILL INITIALLY BE WESTERLY AROUND 5-10 KT, SHIFTING TO THE  
NORTH- NORTHWEST OVERNIGHT AROUND 5 KT OR LESS.  
 
OUTLOOK...  
 
THURSDAY NIGHT: HIGH OPERATIONAL IMPACT. LIKELY SHRA...RA.  
FRIDAY: HIGH OPERATIONAL IMPACT. DEFINITE RA.  
FRIDAY NIGHT: MODERATE OPERATIONAL IMPACT. LIKELY SHRA.  
SATURDAY: MODERATE OPERATIONAL IMPACT. CHANCE OF SHRA.  
SATURDAY NIGHT: NO OPERATIONAL IMPACT. NO SIG WX.  
SUNDAY: NO OPERATIONAL IMPACT. NO SIG WX.  
SUNDAY NIGHT: NO OPERATIONAL IMPACT. NO SIG WX.  
MONDAY: NO OPERATIONAL IMPACT. NO SIG WX.  
 
 
   
HYDROLOGY  
 
MINOR FLOODING IS ONGOING AT MT. MARION ON THE ESOPUS CREEK, BUT  
ALL OTHER MAIN-STEM RIVERS HAVE RECEDED UNDER FLOOD STAGE AT  
THIS TIME.  
 
HOWEVER, THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR HEAVY RAIN LEADING TO  
ADDITIONAL FLOODING THURSDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY. WPC HAS PLACED  
MOST OF OUR REGION INTO A MARGINAL RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
DURING THIS PERIOD, WITH A SLIGHT RISK ACROSS THE CATSKILLS  
THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY MORNING. WHILE FLASH FLOODING WOULD BE  
POSSIBLE WITH ANY TRAINING AND HEAVIER RAINFALL RATES, THE  
GREATER THREAT APPEARS TO BE THE POTENTIAL FOR ADDITIONAL RIVER  
FLOODING. ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW UP TO AROUND A  
50% CHANCE FOR MINOR FLOODING ON MANY MAIN STEM RIVERS,  
ESPECIALLY THE ESOPUS, HOOSIC, HOUSATONIC, SCHOHARIE, WALLOOMSAC,  
AND HUDSON RIVER AT WATERFORD. IF CONFIDENCE IN HIGHER RAINFALL  
AMOUNTS CONTINUES TO INCREASE, THEN THESE PROBABILITIES WILL  
LIKELY GO UP OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.  
 
 
   
ALY WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
CT...NONE.  
NY...NONE.  
MA...NONE.  
VT...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
 
SYNOPSIS...GANT/RATHBUN/WASULA  
NEAR TERM...GANT/RATHBUN/WASULA  
SHORT TERM...GANT  
LONG TERM...GANT  
AVIATION...JPV  
HYDROLOGY...GANT/MAIN  
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