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FXUS61 KALY 080533  
AFDALY  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY  
1233 AM EST SAT NOV 8 2025  
   
SYNOPSIS
 
 
A COLD FRONT WILL BRING RAIN SHOWERS LATER THIS AFTERNOON INTO  
TONIGHT. A FEW SHOWERS MAY LINGER INTO SATURDAY MORNING IN THE  
ADIRONDACKS, WITH DRY WEATHER ELSEWHERE. ANOTHER LOW PRESSURE  
SYSTEM WILL BRING PERIODS OF RAIN LATE SATURDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY  
MONDAY. THE PRECIPITATION MAY START OUT AS LIGHT SNOW OR A  
WINTRY MIX FOR AREAS MAINLY NORTH OF I-90. COLDER AND BLUSTERY  
CONDITIONS WILL THEN TAKE HOLD, WITH LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS  
THROUGH MUCH OF NEXT WEEK.  
 

 
   
SHORT TERM /THROUGH MONDAY/
 
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
- LIGHT SNOW AND/OR WINTRY MIX LATE SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY  
MORNING FOR MAINLY HIGHER TERRAIN AREAS. THERE IS A 30-50%  
CHANCE FOR GREATER THAN 1" OF SNOW IN THE SOUTHERN  
ADIRONDACKS.  
 
- WIDESPREAD RAIN FOR LOWER ELEVATIONS LATE SATURDAY NIGHT  
THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT WITH A 50-80% CHANCE FOR GREATER THAN  
0.50" OF RAIN.  
 
DISCUSSION:  
 
AS OF 921 PM EST...UPPER LEVEL TROUGH AXIS IS LOCATED WEST OF  
THE REGION OVER THE GREAT LAKES, MIDWEST AND OHIO VALLEY. AT THE  
SURFACE, AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IS MOVING ACROSS WESTERN NEW  
YORK, WHILE ANOTHER STRONGER LOW IS MOVING INTO WESTERN QUEBEC.  
WITH A SURFACE FRONT APPROACHING FROM THE WEST, SOME SHOWERS  
HAVE BEEN ONGOING ACROSS THE REGION THIS EVENING. MOST OF THE  
PRECIP HAS BEEN FAIRLY LIGHT AND THE DRY LOW-LEVELS IN PLACE  
(DEWPOINTS MAINLY IN THE 30S) HAS BEEN ALLOWING SOME OF THIS  
PRECIP TO DRY UP BEFORE REACHING THE SURFACE. MRMS SUGGESTS MOST  
AREAS HAVE ONLY SEEN A FEW HUNDREDTHS TO A TENTH OF AN INCH,  
ALTHOUGH PARTS OF THE ADIRONDACKS HAVE BEEN UP TO FOUR TENTHS OF  
AN INCH, ACCORDING TO MRMS ESTIMATES AND NYS MESONET  
OBSERVATIONS. BASED ON THE LATEST RADAR TRENDS AND CAMS, MOST OF  
THE SHOWERS WILL BE EXITING OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS, WITH THE  
BEST CHANCE OF SEEING WET WEATHER ACROSS THE MID HUDSON VALLEY,  
SOUTHERN TACONICS, BERKSHIRES AND NW CT.  
 
IN ADDITION TO THE SHOWERS, THE INCREASING PRESSURE GRADIENT HAS  
BEEN ALLOWING FOR GUSTY WINDS THIS EVENING AHEAD OF THE FRONTAL  
BOUNDARY, ESPECIALLY IN THE HUDSON VALLEY, WHERE THE LOCAL  
TERRAIN HAS CHANNELED THE FLOW. SOUTHERLY WINDS HAVE BEEN  
GUSTING UP TO 40 MPH, ALTHOUGH THESE GUSTS HAVE BEEN RATHER  
LOCALIZED. WITH THE LOW GETTING CLOSER TO THE AREA, WINDS MAY  
BRIEFLY DECREASE FOR THE LATE NIGHT HOURS, BEFORE PICKING UP  
AGAIN FOR SATURDAY MORNING.  
 
OVERALL, LOWS WILL BE LOW TO MID 40S FOR MOST SPOTS, ALTHOUGH  
SOME PARTS OF THE ADIRONDACKS MAY FALL INTO THE UPPER 30S. THE  
COLD FRONT WILL FINALLY BE CROSSING THE REGION AROUND DAYBREAK  
ON SATURDAY.  
 
MOST AREAS DRY OUT BEHIND THE COLD FRONT ON SAT, ALTHOUGH THERE  
COULD BE A FEW LINGERING RAIN SHOWERS OVER THE ADIRONDACKS IN  
THE MORNING. CLOUDS WILL GRADUALLY DECREASE, ESPECIALLY IN  
VALLEY AREAS DURING THE AFTERNOON. HIGHS WILL BE SLIGHTLY ABOVE  
NORMAL WITH 40S IN THE MOUNTAINS TO 50S IN THE VALLEYS.  
 
MAIN CONCERN FOR LATE SAT NIGHT INTO SUN A.M. IS SOME NUISANCE  
LIGHT SNOW AND/OR WINTRY MIX DEVELOPING MAINLY OVER THE  
ADIRONDACKS ASSOCIATED WITH ISENTROPIC LIFT AIDED BY A  
STRENGTHENING SOUTHERLY JET(35-45 KT AT 850 MB). GUIDANCE HAS  
TRENDED SOUTH WITH THE DEVELOPING CYCLONE OVER THE OHIO VALLEY,  
AND SUBSEQUENTLY WITH ITS ACCOMPANYING WARM FRONT SO THAT THERE  
LOOKS TO BE ENOUGH COLD AIR IN PLACE FOR SOME WINTRY PRECIP. NBM  
STARTING TO PICK UP ON THIS, BUT HOURLY TEMPERATURES WERE  
LOWERED BY A FEW DEGREES IN MOST AREAS DURING THIS TIME. HIGHEST  
PROBS (30-50%) FOR > 1" OF SNOW IS OVER THE SOUTHERN/WESTERN  
ADIRONDACKS, WITH A 10-30% OF > 0.01" ICE. WILL HAVE TO WATCH  
SOME OTHER AREAS FOR POTENTIAL FROZEN PRECIP, SUCH AS THE MOHAWK  
VALLEY/LAKE GEORGE-SARATOGA REGION/S. VT WHERE LOW LEVEL COLD  
AIR MAY LOCK IN (CAD SIGNATURE) INTO SUN A.M. AS THE PRECIP  
SPREADS NORTH/EAST. IF CONFIDENCE IN ICE INCREASES, A WINTER  
WEATHER ADVISORY WOULD BE ISSUED. FARTHER SOUTH/EAST  
TEMPERATURES SHOULD WARM ENOUGH FOR PLAIN RAIN BY THE TIME THE  
PRECIP ARRIVES, BUT WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR TRENDS.  
 
ANY FROZEN PRECIP SHOULD CHANGE TO PLAIN RAIN BY SUN P.M, AS  
THE WARM FRONT LIFTS NORTH, WITH THE PARENT CYCLONE TRACKING NE  
ACROSS UPSTATE NY. TEMPERATURES WILL LIKELY REMAIN RELATIVELY  
COOL NORTH OF I-90 (UPPER 30S TO MID 40S), WITH WARMER READINGS  
SOUTH (UPPER 40S TO MID 50S).  
 
MOST SOURCES OF MODEL GUIDANCE SHOWING SOME CYCLOGENESIS NEAR  
THE NEW ENGLAND COAST SUN NIGHT INTO MON MORNING, WHICH LOOKS TO  
RESULT IN PERIODS OF RAIN LINGERING. IT APPEARS THIS  
SECONDARY/COASTAL LOW DOES NOT DEEPEN QUICKLY ENOUGH TO DRAW IN  
ANY SIGNIFICANT COLD AIR WHILE THE PRECIP IS OCCURRING, EXCEPT  
FOR OVER THE W. ADIRONDACKS WHERE SOME WET SNOW MAY MIX IN  
TOWARDS MON MORNING. COLDER AIR WILL FILTER IN ON MON, WITH  
MAINLY SCATTERED RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS AS A DEEP TROUGH STARTS TO  
BUILD IN FROM THE WEST.  
 

 
   
LONG TERM /MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY/
 
 
KEY MESSAGE:  
 
- HIGH CONFIDENCE FOR BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES MUCH OF NEXT  
WEEK, WITH PERIODS OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW ACROSS THE WESTERN  
ADIRONDACKS AND WESTERN MOHAWK VALLEY MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH  
THURSDAY.  
 
DISCUSSION:  
 
THE MAIN STORY IS WINTER WEATHER RETURNING FOR THE FIRST TIME  
EARLY THIS SEASON. THERE IS HIGH CONFIDENCE A LARGE/DEEP UPPER  
LEVEL TROUGH WILL BUILD IN ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES AND NORTHEAST  
THROUGH THE LONG TERM PERIOD. 500 MB HEIGHT ANOMALIES OF -1 TO  
-3 STDEV ARE FORECAST THROUGH MUCH OF THE WORK WEEK.  
 
THIS PATTERN WILL RESULT IN BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES, PERIODS  
OF GUSTY WINDS, AND OCCASIONAL LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS. FLOW  
TRAJECTORIES WILL HAVE A LARGE IMPACT ON WHERE LAKE EFFECT SNOW  
BANDS WILL SET UP. WHILE IT IS TOO EARLY FOR DETAILS, A WESTERLY  
FLOW REGIME LOOKS FAVORED INTO THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK SHIFTING  
TO MORE OF A NORTHWEST FLOW LATER IN THE WEEK WITH THE PASSAGE  
OF MULTIPLE SHORT WAVE DISTURBANCES. 72-HR NBM PROBS ENDING THU  
EVENING FOR > 6" SNOW ARE 50-80% OVER MUCH OF THE W.  
ADIRONDACKS. CHANCES FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW DECREASE OUTSIDE OF  
LAKE EFFECT SNOW, ALTHOUGH SNOW SHOWERS FROM THE DISTURBANCES  
AND UPSLOPE COULD PRODUCE A DUSTING TO A FEW INCHES FOR HIGHER  
TERRAIN AREAS WEST/EAST OF THE HUDSON VALLEY.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /06Z SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/
 
 
THRU 06Z SUN...AN OCCLUDED FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH A WAVE OF LOW  
PRESSURE MOVING INTO QUEBEC IS BRINGING SOME SCATTERED SHOWERS  
SOUTH AND EAST OF KALB. A FEW SHOWERS MAY APPROACH KGFL PRIOR TO  
10Z/SAT. IN THE SHOWERS, SOME REDUCTIONS TO MVFR VSBYS AND CIGS  
ARE POSSIBLE FOR KPOU/KPSF AND TEMPO GROUPS WERE USED TO ACCOUNT  
FOR THIS. WITH THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY CIGS WILL LOWER TO MVFR AT  
TAF SITES IN THE 2-3 KFT AGL RANGE FOR ALL THE TAF SITES BETWEEN  
08Z-13Z/SAT. EXPECT CIGS TO RISE BACK TO LOW VFR LEVELS IN THE  
LATE MORNING INTO THE 3.5-5 KFT AGL RANGE WITH CLEARING  
CONDITIONS INTO THE MID PM. SOME MID AND HIGH CLOUDS WILL BEGIN  
TO INCREASE SOUTH AND WEST OF KALB AFTER 00Z/SUN.  
 
LLWS WAS KEPT IN THE KPOU/KGFL TAF SITES UNTIL ABOUT 09Z/SAT,  
AS THE THE 2 KFT AGL WINDS OF 35-45 KT DECREASE WITH THE LOW-  
LEVEL JET MOVING BY, AS THE SFC WINDS WILL BE 10 KT OR LESS.  
SOUTH TO SOUTHWEST WILL RANGE FROM 5-15 KT WITH SOME GUSTS STILL  
20-25 KT AT KALB/KPSF. THE WINDS WILL VEER TO THE WEST/NORTHWEST  
AFTER DAYBREAK 8-13 KT WITH A FEW GUSTS AROUND 20 KT AT KALB.  
THE WINDS WILL BECOME 5-10 KT FROM THE WEST/NORTHWEST IN THE  
LATE PM AND BECOME VARIABLE IN DIRECTION AT 3 KT OR LESS EARLY  
TONIGHT.  
 
OUTLOOK...  
 
SUNDAY NIGHT: HIGH OPERATIONAL IMPACT. DEFINITE RA.  
MONDAY: MODERATE OPERATIONAL IMPACT. CHANCE OF SHRA.  
MONDAY NIGHT: LOW OPERATIONAL IMPACT. SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHRA...SHSN.  
VETERANS DAY: MODERATE OPERATIONAL IMPACT. BREEZY. CHANCE OF SHRA...SHSN.  
TUESDAY NIGHT: LOW OPERATIONAL IMPACT. BREEZY. SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHRA...SHSN.  
WEDNESDAY: MODERATE OPERATIONAL IMPACT. CHANCE OF SHRA.  
 

 
   
ALY WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
CT...NONE.  
NY...NONE.  
MA...NONE.  
VT...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
SYNOPSIS...07  
SHORT TERM...07/27  
LONG TERM...07  
AVIATION...15  
 
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