868  
FXUS61 KALY 021757  
AFDALY  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY  
157 PM EDT WED SEP 2 2026  
   
WHAT HAS CHANGED  
 
UPDATE - 10:55 AM EDT...QUICK UPDATE THIS MORNING TO MENTION THE  
CONVECTIVE COMPLEX CURRENTLY TRACKING THROUGH CENTRAL NY. THIS  
IS EXPECTED TO TRACK E/SE ALONG THE LOW-LEVEL THERMAL GRADIENT  
THROUGH THE NEXT FEW HOURS. VERY LITTLE INSTABILITY ACROSS OUR  
REGION PER LATEST SPC MESOANALYSIS, AND WE ARE ALREADY SEEING  
WEAKENING TRENDS ON IR SATELLITE IMAGERY. THAT SAID, SOME  
BRIEFLY HEAVY SHOWERS MAY SCRAPE THE WESTERN MOHAWK VALLEY OR  
WESTERN CATSKILLS LATE THIS MORNING THROUGH EARLY TO MID  
AFTERNOON. PROBABILITY FOR HYDRO ISSUES LOOKS LOW GIVEN EXPECTED  
WEAKENING TREND, BUT WILL BE INCREASING POPS IN THESE AREAS  
THROUGH THE NEXT FEW HOURS. BIGGER THREAT FOR SOME SEVERE AND  
LOCALIZED FLASH FLOODING APPEARS TO BE THIS EVENING INTO TONIGHT  
WITH ANOTHER MCS EXPECTED TO TRACK ACROSS OUR REGION.  
OTHERWISE, PLEASE SEE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION BELOW FOR MORE  
DETAILS...  
 
 
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
1) RAIN SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS EXPECTED THIS AFTERNOON INTO  
TOMORROW MORNING ACROSS EASTERN NEW YORK AND WESTERN NEW  
ENGLAND. A FEW STORMS COULD BECOME SEVERE THIS AFTERNOON ACROSS  
THE SOUTHWEST ADIRONDACKS, MOHAWK VALLEY, AND EASTERN CATSKILLS  
WITH DAMAGING WINDS THE PRIMARY CONCERN.  
 
2) ISOLATED INSTANCES OF FLASH FLOODING DUE TO PERIODS OF HEAVY  
RAINFALL TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING ACROSS PORTIONS OF  
EASTERN NEW YORK AND WESTERN NEW ENGLAND.  
 
 
   
DISCUSSION  
 
KEY MESSAGE 1...  
WHILE THE MORNING HOURS BEGIN DRY ACROSS EASTERN NEW YORK AND  
WESTERN NEW ENGLAND, RAIN SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY INCREASES  
THIS AFTERNOON FROM WEST TO EAST. THE MARGINAL RISK (LEVEL 1 OF 5)  
HAS NOT CHANGED FROM YESTERDAY'S DAY 2 SEVERE WEATHER OUTLOOK  
BY THE STORM PREDICTION CENTER (SPC) WHICH NOW BECAME DAY 1 THAT  
INCLUDES THE SOUTHWESTERN ADIRONDACKS, MOHAWK VALLEY, AND  
EASTERN CATSKILLS. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN THIS  
AFTERNOON INTO THIS EVENING. THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS  
THAT CAN HAPPEN ACROSS THE SOUTHWESTERN ADIRONDACKS, WESTERN  
MOHAWK VALLEY, AND EASTERN CATSKILLS. THEY ARE BOTH HIGHLY  
DEPENDENT ON WHAT THE STATIONARY FRONT TO OUR WEST WILL DO WITH  
THE SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM.  
 
SCENARIO NUMBER ONE: THE FRONT STALLS WAY TO OUR WEST AND NO  
SEVERE STORMS DEVELOP. THIS PREVENTS SIGNIFICANT WARM AIR  
ARRIVING WITH ENOUGH TIME FOR SURFACE HEATING TO OCCUR. WHILE  
ONLY ONE HIGH RESOLUTION MODEL GUIDANCE SHOWS THIS, DEPENDING ON  
HOW THIS MORNING'S ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS EXIST THIS SCENARIO  
SHOWS THERE COULD BE LACKING ALL NECESSARY INGREDIENTS FOR  
SEVERE STORMS TO DEVELOP (SIMILARLY TO WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY)  
ACROSS THE SOUTHWESTERN DACKS, MOHAWK VALLEY, AND EASTERN  
CATSKILLS.  
 
SCENARIO NUMBER TWO: THE FRONT DOES NOT STALL AND WE SEE A FEW  
SEVERE STORMS ACROSS SOUTHWESTERN ADIRONDACKS, WESTERN MOHAWK  
VALLEY, AND EASTERN CATSKILLS. THIS SCENARIO SUPPORTS WARM AIR  
ARRIVING TO THESE LOCATIONS FOR SUFFICIENT SURFACE HEATING.  
ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE ENOUGH INGREDIENTS FOR A FEW SEVERE  
STORMS TO DEVELOP IN THESE LOCATIONS BASED ON THE OTHER HIGH  
RESOLUTION FORECAST MODEL GUIDANCES. THE MOST LIKELY TIMING FOR  
THUNDERSTORMS TO DEVELOP AND MOVE INTO THESE LOCATIONS IS AFTER  
NOON AND THROUGH THE LATE AFTERNOON HOURS. HOW EXACTLY THE  
STORMS WILL BE IS STILL THE TRICKY PART TO TODAY'S FORECAST AS A  
FEW COULD DEVELOP INTO A LINE OF STORMS, WHILE THE REST REMAIN  
ISOLATED IN NATURE.  
 
THE CURRENT FORECAST SUPPORTS SCENARIO NUMBER TWO, BUT WE CAN'T  
IGNORE SCENARIO NUMBER 1 FOR THIS AFTERNOON INTO THIS EVENING FOR  
HOW THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT COULD PLAY OUT. FORECAST CONFIDENCE  
CONTINUES TO BE LOW FOR THIS AFTERNOON INTO THIS EVENING BASED ON  
THE DISAGREEMENTS OF THE HIGH RESOLUTION FORECAST MODELS AND CURRENT  
ENVIRONMENT. WHILE THEY CONTINUE TO BE IN DISAGREEMENT FOR HOW TO  
ENVIRONMENT WILL PLAY OUT WITH THE WARM FRONT AND IF WE HAVE ENOUGH  
INGREDIENTS NEEDED FOR STORMS TO BECOME SEVERE, IF A SEVERE STORM  
DOES DEVELOP THEN THE PRIMARY CONCERN IS GOING TO BE DAMAGING WIND  
GUSTS. CONTINUE TO MONITOR LATEST SPC SEVERE WEATHER OUTLOOKS FOR  
TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT AND HAVE MULTIPLE WAYS TO RECEIVE WARNINGS.  
 
KEY MESSAGE 2...  
 
THE SECOND CONCERN TODAY WITH RAIN SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS IS  
HEAVY RAINFALL ACROSS EASTERN NEW YORK AND WESTERN NEW ENGLAND.  
WHILE NOT EVERYONE WILL SEE A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM TODAY, EVEN WITH  
NON-SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS HEAVY RAIN IS A CONCERN AS THE ENVIRONMENT  
IS FAVORABLE. LATEST HIGH RESOLUTION FORECAST MODEL GUIDANCES  
SUPPORT THE NECESSARY INGREDIENTS NEEDED FOR HEAVY DOWNPOURS  
ASSOCIATED WITH RAIN SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS FROM LATE THIS  
AFTERNOON INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS TONIGHT. LATEST PROBABILITIES FOR  
RAINFALL TOTALS OVER 1 INCH IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS ARE GREATER THAN 75  
PERCENT FOR LOCATIONS NORTH AND WEST OF ALBANY. THE GROUND IS  
SATURATED FROM YESTERDAY'S RAINFALL. AND IF ANY LOCATION SEES  
REPEATED HEAVY DOWNPOURS THIS EVENING INTO TONIGHT, ISOLATED  
INSTANCES OF FLASH FLOODING COULD OCCUR. ESPECIALLY FOR LOCATIONS  
THAT HAVE TYPICAL POOR DRAINAGE AND PONDING ON ROADWAYS. SMALL  
STREAM/CREEKS COULD RISE.  
 
ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE MOHAWK VALLEY, SCATTERED INSTANCES OF  
FLASH FLOODING HAVE LOW CHANCES OF OCCURRING THIS EVENING, BUT  
THE RISK IS THERE AS REPEATED ROUNDS OF RAIN SHOWERS AND/OR  
THUNDERSTORMS COULD OCCUR TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING.  
RAINFALL TOTALS FOR TODAY THROUGH TOMORROW WILL GREATLY DEPEND  
ON WHO SEES THE HEAVIEST RAINFALL AND WHERE REPEATED RAIN  
SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS DEVELOP THIS AFTERNOON INTO TONIGHT.  
CONFIDENCE HAS INCREASED FOR THE CHANCES OF RAIN SHOWERS AND  
THUNDERSTORMS THIS AFTERNOON AND INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS, SO  
MEDIUM TO HIGH CHANCES ARE IN STORE ACROSS EASTERN NEW YORK AND  
WESTERN NEW ENGLAND THROUGH THE EARLY MORNING HOURS THURSDAY.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /18Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY/  
 
AS OF 18 UTC/02, WIDESPREAD MVFR CIGS CONTINUE WITH AN AREA OF  
SHOWERS TRACKING FROM WEST TO EAST THROUGH ALB AND POU. THESE  
SHOWERS LOOK TO REACH PSF SHORTLY AFTER 18 UTC WITH A FEW BRIEF  
SHOWERS NEAR GFL. A THUNDERSTORM IS JUST SOUTH OF POU SO  
INCLUDED VCTS FOR THIS SITE ONLY THROUGH 21 UTC. SHOWERS  
DIMINISH BY 20 - 21 UTC FROM WEST TO EAST WITH A BRIEF FOR DRY  
WEATHER THROUGH EARLY EVENING WITH CIGS AT GFL AND ALB EVEN  
TRENDING UPWARDS BACK TO VFR FOR A PERIOD. HOWEVER, GUIDANCE  
REMAINS IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH AN ORGANIZED AREA OF RAIN AND  
EMBEDDED THUNDERSTORMS TRACKING FROM WESTERN/CENTRAL NY EASTWARD  
REACHING ALB/GFL FIRST FOLLOWED BY PSF/POU NEXT BETWEEN 03 - 06  
UTC. WHILE INSTABILITY WILL BE ELEVATED, THERE IS ENOUGH  
EVIDENCE THAT RUMBLES OF THUNDER AND PERIODS OF MODERATE TO  
HEAVY RAIN CAN OCCUR AT ALL TERMINALS FOR A BRIEF WINDOW SO  
INCLUDE A TEMPO GROUP FROM 03 - 08 UTC TONIGHT THAT RESULT IN  
IFR CIGS AND VIS. THE HEAVIEST RAIN AND ANY STORMS SHOULD END BY  
07-08 UTC WITH LINGERING RAIN SHOWERS ENDING FROM NORTHWEST TO  
SOUTHEAST BY 09 - 11 UTC. CIGS AT GFL/PSF LOOK TO DROP IFR  
DURING THIS PERIOD WHILE ALB/POU CIGS SHOULD RETURN TO MVFR. IFR  
CIGS AT PSF/GFL SHOULD IMPROVE TO MVFR TOWARDS THE END OF THE  
TAF PERIOD WITH VFR CONDITIONS LIKELY RETURNING TO ALL TERMINALS  
SHORTLY AFTER THE TAF PERIOD ENDS.  
 
SOUTHEASTERLY WINDS 5-12KTS WITH GUSTS UP TO 15-20KTS THROUGH  
THIS EVENING SHIFT TO THE WEST - NORTHWEST AS THE AREA OF RAIN  
AND EMBEDDED THUNDERSTORMS PUSHES THROUGH THE TERMINALS  
OVERNIGHT. WESTERLY WINDS CONTINUE THROUGH THE END OF THE TAF  
PERIOD SUSTAINED 5-10KTS WITH GUSTS UP TO 15KTS.  
 
OUTLOOK...  
 
THURSDAY NIGHT: NO OPERATIONAL IMPACT. NO SIG WX.  
FRIDAY: NO OPERATIONAL IMPACT. NO SIG WX.  
FRIDAY NIGHT: NO OPERATIONAL IMPACT. NO SIG WX.  
SATURDAY: LOW OPERATIONAL IMPACT. NO SIG WX.  
SATURDAY NIGHT: NO OPERATIONAL IMPACT. NO SIG WX.  
SUNDAY: NO OPERATIONAL IMPACT. NO SIG WX.  
SUNDAY NIGHT: NO OPERATIONAL IMPACT. NO SIG WX.  
LABOR DAY: NO OPERATIONAL IMPACT. NO SIG WX.  
 
 
   
ALY WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
CT...NONE.  
NY...NONE.  
MA...NONE.  
VT...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
 
DISCUSSION...35/05  
AVIATION...31  
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