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FXUS63 KARX 020027  
AFDARX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LA CROSSE WI  
627 PM CST SAT FEB 1 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- LIGHT WINTRY MIX POSSIBLE TONIGHT IS STILL POSSIBLE. CHANCES  
ARE ABOUT THE SAME AS THIS AFTERNOON (20-30% CHANCE) AND WE  
ARE CURRENTLY MONITORING FOR CONDITIONS THAT PROMOTE FREEZING  
DRIZZLE FOR LATE EVENING (SERN MN/NERN IA) AND OVERNIGHT (WI).  
SEE UPDATE SECTION BELOW.  
 
- WIDESPREAD FOG IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP OVER SOUTHEAST MN AND  
NORTHEAST IA OVERNIGHT WITH SOME DENSE POCKETS AS WELL. A  
DENSE FOG ADVISORY CANNOT BE RULED OUT FOR THE SUNRISE HOURS  
AND MORNING.  
 
- TEMPERATURES POTENTIALLY CLIMBING TO NEAR RECORD HIGHS ALONG  
AND SOUTH OF INTERSTATE 90 ON SUNDAY  
 
- SNOW BAND LOOKING LIKELY NORTH OF INTERSTATE 90 ON SUNDAY  
NIGHT AND MONDAY MORNING  
 
 
   
UPDATE  
 
ISSUED AT 627 PM CST SAT FEB 1 2025  
 
WHILE THE RADAR IS SOMEWHAT ACTIVE AT 6PM/00Z, LOW-LEVEL DRY  
AIR HAS BEEN THE WINNER THUS FAR TODAY WITH THE LIFT AND  
DYNAMICS WITH THIS WINTER SYSTEM GENERALLY WEAK. FOR THE  
OVERNIGHT, WE WILL BE MONITORING FOR THE LOW-LEVELS TO SATURATE  
AND DEEPEN, WITH PREDOMINATELY SUPERCOOLED LIQUID DROPS IN THE  
0-2KM LAYER AND DRY/NO CLOUD ALOFT. GOES RGB MICROPHYSICS  
IMAGERY IS REALLY HELPFUL DEPICTING THE BACK EDGE OF THE HIGHER  
LEVEL CLOUD FROM NORTHWEST WI TO NORTHWEST IA AND SLOWLY MOVING  
EAST. ONCE THIS LAYER WORKS EAST, THE ICE SOURCE FOR  
PRECIPITATION IS MOSTLY GONE. THE GOES IMAGERY ALSO "REVEALS"  
THE LOWER CLOUD DECK WELL IN CENTRAL MN INTO NORTHEAST IA...AND  
OBSERVATIONS SUGGEST THE CEILINGS ARE ABOUT 2-3KFT. THIS LAYER  
IS FORECAST TO DEEPEN AND CEILINGS LOWER AND SHIFT EAST THROUGH  
THE EVENING, INCREASING DRIZZLE OR FREEZING DRIZZLE  
PROBABILITIES (DEPENDING ON SURFACE TEMPS). CLIMATOLOGY FOR  
DRIZZLE SUGGESTS CEILINGS ARE TYPICALLY NEAR OR BELOW 1KFT OR  
VISIBILITIES <3MI. THAT HAPPENS OVER SOUTHEAST MN LATER THIS  
EVENING FOR A PEAK FREEZING DRIZZLE PROBABILITY PERIOD OF  
10PM-3AM ACCORDING TO THE LATEST HRRR/RAP MODELS. THIS SHIFTS  
EAST INTO WI OVERNIGHT WITH A PEAK WINDOW OF 12-6 AM.  
CONFIDENCE ISNT INCREASING QUITE YET, AND WANT TO SEE LOWERING  
CEILINGS IN THE OBSERVATIONS AND PRECIPITATION REPORTS SOMEWHERE  
AS THE EVENING WEARS ON. SOME SNOW MAY OCCASIONALLY MIX IN AS  
ANOTHER UPSTREAM SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS OVER ABERDEEN SD AND  
MOVING IN, WHICH WILL ADD TO THE LIFT BUT ALSO INITIATE  
SCATTERED ICE ABOVE THE LOW-LEVEL LAYER.  
 
THIS MOIST LOW-LEVEL LAYER WILL PROMOTE WIDESPREAD FOG OVER  
SOUTHEAST MN AND NORTHEAST IA BY SUNRISE WITH POSSIBLY DENSE FOG  
POCKETS. A DENSE FOG ADVISORY FOR SOME AREAS THERE CANNOT BE  
RULED OUT.  
 
WE HAVE TRIED TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THE FREEZING DRIZZLE THREAT  
MUCH LIKE PREVIOUS SHIFTS AND IF WE SEE SOME OF THOSE CONFIDENCE  
BUILDERS, WE WILL STEP UP OUR COMMUNICATION OF THE THREAT. WOULD  
NOT EXPECT MUCH ICE GLAZING BUT MAYBE ENOUGH TO CAUSE SOME  
MINOR TRAVEL PAINS IF IT HAPPENS.  
 
 
   
DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 225 PM CST SAT FEB 1 2025  
 
TONIGHT  
 
A WEAK, BROAD UPPER SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS SHOWING UP ON WATER VAPOR  
SATELLITE IMAGERY CUTTING ACROSS SOUTH DAKOTA INTO CENTRAL  
MINNESOTA. VORTICITY ADVECTION OUT AHEAD OF THIS FEATURE IS CO-  
LOCATED WITH A STRONG LOW LEVEL JET AND ISENTROPIC LIFT, INTERACTING  
WITH A FAVORABLE FEED OF INCREASING MOISTURE TO PRODUCE WIDESPREAD  
CLOUD COVER ACROSS THE REGION. PWATS WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE INTO  
THIS EVENING, REACHING AROUND 200 PERCENT OF NORMAL OVER OUR  
FORECAST AREA TONIGHT. DESPITE THIS, OUR MAIN FORECAST CONUNDRUM  
INTO TONIGHT WILL BE SATURATION ISSUES AS THIS SYSTEM MOVES THROUGH,  
DICTATING HOW MUCH OF THE AREA ACTUALLY SEES LIGHT PRECIPITATION  
AS WELL AS PRECIPITATION TYPES/AMOUNTS.  
 
THE LOW LEVELS ARE QUITE DRY TODAY, ESPECIALLY NORTH OF I-94 WHERE  
DEWPOINTS ARE STILL IN THE SINGLE DIGITS. THIS SHALLOW DRY LAYER  
SHOULD MOISTEN UP PRETTY QUICKLY BY THIS EVENING PER FORECAST  
SOUNDINGS, BUT BY THE TIME THE LOWEST LEVELS FINALLY SATURATE, THE  
COLUMN BEGINS TO DRY OUT ABOVE 800MB. THIS WILL LEAD TO ICE  
NUCLEATION AND PTYPE FORECAST CHALLENGES. DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION,  
RAP/HRRR FORECAST SOUNDINGS SHOW ONLY MAYBE A 2-3 HOUR WINDOW THIS  
EVENING WITH SUFFICIENT ICE NUCLEATION TO SUPPORT LIGHT SNOW  
REACHING THE SURFACE. THEREAFTER, THE SATURATED LAYER BECOMES TOO  
SHALLOW FOR SNOW TO FALL ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA WHICH WOULD FAVOR  
DRIZZLE OR FREEZING DRIZZLE (DEPENDING ON SURFACE TEMPS), UNLESS  
TRANSIENT SEEDER-FEEDER PROCESSES WOULD COME INTO PLAY. EVEN NORTH  
OF I-94, WHICH WAS LOOKING TO BE THE MOST SLAM-DUNK AREA FOR SNOW  
ACCUMULATION, NOW LOOKS TO EVENTUALLY BE IMPACTED BY ICE NUCLEATION  
LIMITATIONS AND POTENTIALLY SOME A BRIEF WINDOW OF FREEZING DRIZZLE  
AS PRECIPITATION DIMINISHES THROUGH THE PRE-DAWN HOURS.  
 
OVERALL SNOW AMOUNTS LOOK LIGHT, GENERALLY AROUND 1/2 TO 1 INCH  
NORTH OF I-94 WITH TRACE AMOUNTS POSSIBLE ELSEWHERE. WARM ADVECTION  
OVERNIGHT WILL LEAD TO A GRADUAL RISE IN SURFACE TEMPERATURES FROM  
SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST. THIS WILL HELP TO LIMIT THE FREEZING DRIZZLE  
THREAT, BUT INITIAL WET BULB EFFECTS MAY ALLOW FOR A LIGHT GLAZE OF  
ICE TO DEVELOP IN SOME AREAS (MAINLY SOUTH OF I-94) BEFORE SWITCHING  
OVER TO JUST AREAS OF DRIZZLE. THESE LIGHT SNOW AND ICE AMOUNTS MAY  
LEAD TO SLIPPERY TRAVEL IN SOME AREAS, BUT THE THREAT DOES NOT LOOK  
SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO WARRANT A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY AT THIS  
TIME. FOR NOW WILL ADVERTISE THE POTENTIAL SLIPPERY IMPACTS VIA AN  
SPS AND WILL LET NEXT SHIFT MONITOR NEAR-TERM FORECAST TRENDS AND  
OBSERVATIONS THIS EVENING.  
 
SUNDAY  
 
A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL TRACK ACROSS THE US/CANADIAN  
BORDER. A WARM FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE AREA DRY ON SUNDAY  
MORNING. WARM AIR ADVECTION WILL CAUSE 925 MB TEMPERATURES TO  
WARM INTO THE 0 TO 2C NORTH OF INTERSTATE 94 AND 2 TO 6C  
ELSEWHERE. MIXING DOWN THESE TEMPERATURES WOULD RESULT IN  
HIGHS IN THE LOWER AND MID-40S NORTH OF INTERSTATE 94 AND FROM  
THE MID-40S TO LOWER 50S ELSEWHERE. THESE TEMPERATURES WILL BE  
WARM ENOUGH THAT WE COULD APPROACH SOME RECORDS HIGHS ALONG AND  
SOUTH OF INTERSTATE 90.  
 
SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY MORNING  
 
A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE SOUTH ACROSS THE AREA ON SUNDAY EVENING  
AS A LOW PRESSURE AREA MOVES ACROSS THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES  
INTO SOUTHERN ONTARIO. AS THE NIGHT PROGRESSES, THE CONVERGENCE  
AND FRONTOGENESIS WILL INCREASE ALONG THE 850-700 MB FRONT  
NORTH OF INTERSTATE 94. INITIALLY THERE WILL BE VERY DRY AIR  
OVER THE AREA, SO MUCH OF THIS INITIAL FORCING WILL GO INTO  
SATURATING THE AIRMASS. DURING THE OVERNIGHT AND ON MONDAY  
MORNING, THE MODELS ARE IN GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT A SNOW BAND  
WILL DEVELOP MAINLY NORTH OF INTERSTATE 90. OVER THE PAST  
24-HOURS, THE QPF HAS INCREASED AND BEEN SHIFTING NORTH. THE  
01.12Z HREF HAS A NARROW CORRIDOR OF 2 TO 4 INCHES INCHES  
(PROBABILITIES OF 15 TO 30 PERCENT) ACROSS NORTH-CENTRAL  
WISCONSIN. ELSEWHERE, NORTH OF INTERSTATE SNOW TOTALS RANGE FROM  
JUST A DUSTING TO 2 INCHES.  
 
WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY  
 
THERE CONTINUE TO BE MUCH UNCERTAINTY ON WHETHER THE NORTHERN  
AND SOUTHERN STREAMS WILL PHASE OR NOT. IN THE ENSEMBLE MEMBERS  
WHICH DO NOT PHASE, WE STAY DRY. THE PRECIPITATION REMAINS NORTH  
AND SOUTH OF THE FORECAST AREA. MEANWHILE, IN THE ENSEMBLE  
MEMBERS THAT PHASE THE 2 STREAMS, THIS RESULT IN MORE  
PRECIPITATION (LIKELY SNOW) FOR THE AREA. DUE TO THESE  
UNCERTAINTIES, CONFIDENCE IS LOW ON PRECIPITATION CHANCES AND  
AMOUNTS.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /00Z TAFS THROUGH 00Z MONDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 627 PM CST SAT FEB 1 2025  
 
A CHALLENGING FORECAST ACROSS THE AREA FOR THIS PERIOD WITH DRY  
LOW-LEVELS NOW AND VFR, TRANSITIONING TO IFR/LIFR OVERNIGHT AND  
THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME LIGHT FREEZING DRIZZLE. OBSERVATIONS  
SHOW A 2-3KFT CLOUD DECK FROM SOUTHCENTRAL MN INTO NORTHEAST IA  
AND SHIFTING EAST AHEAD OF A LOW-LEVEL TROUGH IN SOUTHERLY FLOW.  
OVERNIGHT, AS THE TROUGH APPROACHES, THE LOW-LEVELS WILL  
MOISTEN AND DEEPEN BRINGING A TRANSITION TO IFR OR LIFR. THE  
LOWEST CEILINGS AND VISIBILITIES WILL BE OVER NORTHEAST IA AND  
SOUTHEAST MN TONIGHT WHERE SOME DENSE FOG AND LIFR IS EXPECTED.  
THE SIGNALS FOR THIS LIFR/IFR HAS BEEN CONSISTENT IN THE MODEL  
FORECASTS AND NBM PROBABILITIES.  
 
WINDS WILL BE ON THE DECREASE OVERNIGHT WITH THE MAX GUSTS  
HAVING BEEN REACHED THIS AFTERNOON.  
 
AS THE LOW-LEVELS MOISTEN, AN AREA OF POSSIBLE FREEZING DRIZZLE  
WILL TRANSITION ACROSS THE AREA, AT TIMES MIXED WITH LIGHT  
SNOW (30% CHANCE AT THIS TIME). ANY ICE ACCUMULATIONS SHOULD BE  
MINOR. FOR MORE ON THE FREEZING DRIZZLE CHANCES, SEE THE  
UPDATE SECTION ABOVE.  
 
 
   
ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
WI...NONE.  
MN...NONE.  
IA...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
 
UPDATE...BAUMGARDT  
DISCUSSION...BOYNE/KURZ  
AVIATION...BAUMGARDT  
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