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FXUS61 KCLE 300344  
AFDCLE  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CLEVELAND OH  
1044 PM EST FRI NOV 29 2024  
   
SYNOPSIS  
 
A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM NORTH OF THE REGION WILL KEEP A SURFACE TROUGH  
ACROSS THE AREA INTO THE START OF NEXT WEEK. ANOTHER LOW PRESSURE  
WILL MOVE EAST ACROSS THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES, IMPACTING THE AREA  
AGAIN FOR MID-WEEK.  
 
 
   
NEAR TERM /THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT/  
 
LAKE EFFECT SNOW CONTINUES TO PILE UP ALONG THE NORTHEAST  
LAKESHORE LEADING TO VERY HAZARDOUS CONDITIONS. SNOWFALL REPORTS  
THIS EVENING HAVE SURPASSED A FOOT AND A HALF IN OHIO WITH  
REPORTS OF OVER 2-2.5 FEET IN ERIE COUNTY PENNSYLVANIA. WE HAVE  
RECEIVED REPORTS OF STRANDED MOTORISTS AND DOWNED LIMBS DUE TO  
THE WEIGHT OF THE SNOW. TRAVEL IN EASTERN LAKE, NORTHERN  
ASHTABULA, AND ERIE COUNTY PA IS STRONGLY DISCOURAGED AS THIS IS  
BECOMING A VERY SERIOUS SITUATION.  
 
UNFORTUNATELY HEAVY SNOW CONTINUES TO FALL WITH RATES OF 1 TO 2  
INCHES PER HOUR. A HEAVY BAND HAS RE-ORIENTED ACROSS EASTERN  
LAKE AND ASHTABULA COUNTY WHILE ANOTHER HEAVY BAND IS ACROSS  
EASTERN ERIE COUNTY PA INTO NEW YORK. SNOW IS EXPECTED TO  
CONTINUE THROUGH THE NIGHT WITH STRONG INTENSITY GIVEN WESTERLY  
FLOW THROUGH 700MB, AMPLE MOISTURE, A WARM LAKE AND A COLD  
AIRMASS. NOT UNTIL THE SOUTHWEST FLOW LIFTS THE BAND OUT OVER  
THE LAKE ON SATURDAY MORNING IS A REAL BREAK EXPECTED. THE  
COMBINATION OF THE DURATION AND HIGH SNOWFALL RATES MEANS 12-18  
INCHES ARE LIKELY UNDER THE HEAVIER BAND AND CAN NOT RULE OUT A  
FEW PLACES(MOST LIKELY IN ASHTABULA COUNTY) EXCEEDING ANOTHER 2  
FEET. A SHARP CUT-OFF STILL REMAINS TO THE SOUTH WITH SOUTHERN  
PORTIONS OF GEAUGA, ASHTABULA, AND CRAWFORD COUNTIES LIKELY TO  
RECEIVE LITTLE IF ANY ACCUMULATION. IN CUYAHOGA COUNTY, EUCLID  
IS THE MAIN CONCERN AND HAVE CHOSEN TO LEAVE THE ADVISORY IN  
EFFECT GIVEN THE CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE HEAVY BAND. MOST OF  
CUYAHOGA COUNTY WILL RECEIVE LITTLE OR NO SNOW.  
 
COLDER AIR LOCATED SOUTH OF THE LAKE WILL CONTINUE TO FAVOR THE  
SURFACE TROUGH HOLDING ON ALONG THE LAKESHORE OVERNIGHT. THE  
RGEM HAS BEEN A PREFERRED MODEL WHICH CONTINUES TO FOCUS THE  
TROUGH AXIS NEAR THE SHORELINE, ALLOWING LESS INLAND EXTENT OF  
SNOW. UNFORTUNATELY THIS DOES PLACE THE HEAVIEST OF THE SNOW IN  
AREAS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN HIT HARD. ROADS ARE BECOMING  
IMPASSIBLE IN THIS DANGEROUS SITUATION. A CONCERNING TREND ON  
THE 00Z/30 HRRR SHOWS THE BAND STRUGGLING TO CLEAR ERIE COUNTY  
ON SATURDAY. WE WILL BE ANALYZING MODEL TRENDS TO DETERMINE IF  
THE WARNING NEEDS TO BE EXTENDED ON SATURDAY.  
 
PREVIOUS DISCUSSION...A POTENTIALLY HISTORIC LAKE-EFFECT  
SNOWSTORM WILL CONTINUE ACROSS FAR NE OHIO AND NW PA TONIGHT  
THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING AS A LONG FETCH, WESTERLY FLOW OF COLD  
AIR INTERACTS WITH NEAR RECORD WARM LAKE TEMPERATURES.  
 
IN TERMS OF THE PATTERN, A CLOSED MID-LEVEL LOW NEAR JAMES BAY  
WILL GRADUALLY PIVOT INTO QUEBEC THROUGH THE WEEKEND AS THE  
ASSOCIATED BROAD, DEEP MID/UPPER TROUGH CONTINUES ACROSS THE  
GREAT LAKES. THIS WILL MAINTAIN A BROAD CYCLONIC FLOW OF COLD  
AIR AND SUFFICIENT SYNOPTIC MOISTURE ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES,  
WITH A SERIES OF SHORTWAVES OSCILLATING THE BOUNDARY LAYER WIND  
FIELDS, CAUSING LAKE-EFFECT BANDS TO WOBBLE. LAKE INDUCED  
INSTABILITY WILL REMAIN STRONG TO EXTREME THROUGH THE PERIOD, AS  
EQUILIBRIUM LEVELS REACH 20 THOUSAND FEET AT TIMES WITH VERY  
STEEP LAPSE RATES.  
 
DOPPLER RADAR LOOPS THIS AFTERNOON SHOW THAT THE MAIN BAND HAS  
BECOME WIDER AND MORE CELLULAR FROM THE WESTERN BASIN OF LAKE  
ERIE TO NORTHEASTERN LAKE, NORTHERN ASHTABULA, ERIE, AND EXTREME  
NORTHERN CRAWFORD COUNTIES. THIS IS DUE TO DAYTIME HEATING  
SLIGHTLY DISRUPTING THE BOUNDARY LAYER THERMODYNAMICS OVER THE  
LAKE AND THE INSTABILITY SNOW SHOWERS DEVELOPING ON LAND.  
HOWEVER, THE BOUNDARY LAYER FLOW HAS BEEN STEADILY VEERING MORE  
WESTERLY, AND THIS IS CAUSING THE BAND TO SAG SLOWLY SOUTHWARD.  
EXPECT THAT ONCE THE SUN SETS, THE BAND WILL QUICKLY REGAIN  
ORGANIZATION AND TURN INTO A HIGHLY FOCUSED, INTENSE PLUME  
TARGETING EASTERN LAKE, NE GEAUGA, NORTHERN/CENTRAL ASHTABULA,  
ERIE, AND NORTHERN CRAWFORD COUNTIES AS A MAINLY 270 DEGREE FLOW  
LOCKS IN FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH MUCH OF THE NIGHT. THE HREF  
MEMBERS CONTINUE TO SHOW THE TYPICAL SOUTH BIAS, BUT THEY HAVE  
NOT BEEN TERRIBLE THIS AFTERNOON OVERALL. THE RGEM CONTINUES TO  
HAVE THE BEST HANDLE ON BAND PLACEMENT, ALTHOUGH A LITTLE TOO  
FAR NORTH. WITH THIS IN MIND, OPTED FOR A PLACEMENT BETWEEN THE  
RGEM AND HREF. THIS IS A SERIOUS SITUATION BECAUSE THIS PLACES  
THE HEAVIEST SNOW THIS EVENING AND TONIGHT OVER AREAS THAT HAVE  
ALREADY BEEN HIT VERY HARD TODAY. REPORTS FROM NORTHERN ERIE  
COUNTY HAVE BEEN IN THE 15 TO 25 INCH RANGE SINCE THE SNOW BEGAN  
LATE LAST NIGHT, WITH REPORTS OF OVER 8 INCHES IN 2.5 HOURS  
AROUND MIDDAY TODAY! ADDITIONAL SNOWFALL OF 18 TO 24 INCHES IS  
LIKELY IN NORTHERN ERIE COUNTY THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING, WITH  
LOCALLY UP TO 30 INCHES. ADDITIONAL SNOWFALL OF 12-18 INCHES  
WITH LOCALLY UP TO 24 INCHES IS EXPECTED THROUGH SATURDAY  
MORNING IN EASTERN LAKE AND NORTHERN ASHTABULA COUNTIES. JUST  
SOUTH OF THIS SWATH, ADDITIONAL AMOUNTS OF 8-12 INCHES ARE  
EXPECTED FROM ABOUT NE GEAUGA TO CENTRAL ASHTABULA COUNTIES.  
THIS WILL PLACE STORM TOTALS IN THE 3 TO 4 FOOT RANGE IN THE  
HARDEST HIT AREAS, WITH LOCALLY UP TO 50 INCHES IN NORTHERN ERIE  
COUNTY!  
 
IN TERMS OF HEADLINE DECISIONS, OPTED TO KEEP ONGOING LAKE-  
EFFECT SNOW WARNINGS THROUGH 15Z SATURDAY FOR LAKE, GEAUGA,  
ASHTABULA, AND ERIE AND CRAWFORD COUNTIES. GEAUGA IS CLOSE, BUT  
THERE IS ENOUGH CONFIDENCE THAT THE BAND WILL CLIP THE THOMPSON  
AREA THIS EVENING AND THE FIRST HALF OF TONIGHT TO BRING WARNING  
AMOUNTS TO THE FAR NE PARTS OF THE COUNTY. CUYAHOGA COUNTY HAS  
THE GREATEST "BUST" POTENTIAL. THE BAND COULD AFFECT EUCLID  
(EXTREME NE CUYAHOGA) FOR SEVERAL HOURS THIS EVENING AND EARLY  
TONIGHT, SO KEPT A SMALL AREA OF ADDITIONAL SNOWFALL NEAR 3  
INCHES. THESE AMOUNTS COULD BE A COUPLE OF INCHES HIGHER OR  
LOWER DEPENDING ON HOW IT ORIENTS AFTER DARK, SO THERE'S A  
POSSIBILITY THE ADVISORY MAY NEED TO BE CANCELLED. IF THE BAND  
ORIENTS SLIGHTLY FARTHER SOUTH, THEN THE ADVISORY IS FINE. THIS  
WILL BE WATCHED THIS EVENING.  
 
LATE TONIGHT AND SATURDAY, THE BOUNDARY LAYER FLOW IS STILL  
PROJECTED TO BACK RATHER QUICKLY AHEAD OF A STRONGER SHORTWAVE  
DROPPING INTO THE GREAT LAKES. THIS WILL START TO STEADILY LIFT  
THE BAND NORTHWARD BEFORE SUNRISE SATURDAY AND THROUGH MIDDAY.  
TRENDS HAVE BEEN FOR THIS TO HAPPEN A LITTLE SLOWER, SO HELD  
ONTO HIGHER POPS ALONG THE ERIE, PA LAKESHORE THROUGH EARLY  
AFTERNOON, BUT IT WILL END ON THE OHIO LAKESHORE 12-15Z. BY MID  
AFTERNOON, ALL OF THE SNOW SHOULD BE OVER THE LAKE AS THE BAND  
REORIENTS INTO THE BUFFALO AREA. THIS WILL GIVE A NEEDED BREAK  
TO DIG OUT.  
 
UNFORTUNATELY, THE AFOREMENTIONED SHORTWAVE WILL MOVE INTO THE  
SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES SATURDAY NIGHT AND START TO VEER THE FLOW  
MORE WESTERLY AGAIN. THIS WILL START TO PUSH THE BAND BACK INTO  
NW PA AND EXTREME NE OHIO OVERNIGHT. THERE WILL BE STRONGER  
BOUNDARY LAYER SHEAR SATURDAY NIGHT, SO THAT WILL LIKELY MAKE  
THE BAND MORE RAGGED AND CELLULAR, BUT IT WILL START TO SNOW AT  
LEAST MODERATELY ALONG THE LAKESHORES OF FAR NE OHIO AND NW PA  
AGAIN. THE BAND WILL LIKELY BE SLOWER THAN GUIDANCE TO MOVE BACK  
SOUTH DUE TO LAKE AGGREGATE TROUGHING, SO SLOWLY EXPANDED POPS  
BACK SOUTH AND WESTWARD. THIS WILL TAKE US INTO PART 2 OF THIS  
LAKE-EFFECT SNOWSTORM, SO SEE THE SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM  
SECTIONS FOR DETAILS ON THAT.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT/  
 
THE LARGE AND COLD CYCLONIC FLOW WILL CONTINUE SUNDAY INTO MONDAY  
BUT THERE WILL BE SOME SUBTLE CHANGES IN THE LOW LEVELS WHICH WILL  
SHIFT THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW BANDS. ON SUNDAY, CENTER OF MID LEVEL  
TROUGH WILL MOVE TO JUST NORTH OF NEW YORK STATE IN SOUTHERN QUEBEC.  
THE LOW LEVEL FLOW WILL START OUT ON SUNDAY FROM THE WEST-SOUTHWEST  
WHICH WILL KEEP ONGOING LAKE EFFECT SNOW BANDS HUGGING NEAR THE  
LAKESHORE AREA OF FAR NEOH AND NWPA THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. A SURFACE  
TROUGH WILL PUSH ACROSS THE AREA SUNDAY NIGHT. THE LOW LEVEL FLOW  
WILL BECOME MORE WEST-NORTHWEST SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT.  
THIS CHANGE IN THE FLOW WILL SHIFT THE POTENTIAL OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW  
BANDS MORE INTO NORTH CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST OHIO AS WELL AS NWPA.  
SOME OF THE SECONDARY SNOWBELT AREAS WILL COME INTO PLAY WITH THE  
LAKE EFFECT SNOW POTENTIAL, INCLUDING MORE OF THE CLEVELAND METRO  
AREA. THERE COULD ALSO BE A LAKE HURON CONNECTION THAT DEVELOPS FOR  
NWPA AND THE ERIE PA AREA LATE MONDAY INTO MONDAY NIGHT. ADDITIONAL  
HEAVY SNOWFALL IS VERY POSSIBLE FOR MORE OF THE CLEVELAND AREA AND  
EASTWARD TOWARDS NWPA. ADDITIONAL WINTER HEADLINES WILL LIKELY BE  
NEEDED FOR SOME PORTION OF NEOH AND NWPA. AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE  
SNOWBELT WILL HAVE RELATIVELY QUIET WEATHER WITH SOME PASSING LIGHT  
SNOW SHOWERS FROM TIME TO TIME WITH LITTLE TO NO ACCUMULATIONS OR  
IMPACTS. TEMPERATURES WILL BE COLD AND BELOW AVERAGE SUNDAY INTO  
MONDAY WITH HIGHS IN THE 30S AND OVERNIGHT LOWS IN THE UPPER TEENS  
AND 20S.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM /TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/  
 
THE UPPER LEVEL WEATHER PATTERN WILL START TO CHANGE ON TUESDAY. THE  
UPPER LEVEL TROUGH WILL START TO PULL AWAY LATE ON TUESDAY. THE LOW  
LEVEL FLOW WILL START OUT WESTERLY ON TUESDAY WHICH WILL PUSH THE  
LAKE EFFECT SNOW BANDS INTO FAR NEOH AND NWPA DURING THE DAY. THE  
FLOW BECOMES MORE SOUTHWESTERLY BY TUESDAY EVENING AND PUSH THE LAKE  
EFFECT EITHER OUT INTO LAKE ERIE OR HUGGING THE LAKESHORE OF FAR  
NEOH AND NWPA TUESDAY NIGHT. THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN BRIEFLY WILL  
BE MORE ZONAL BY TUESDAY NIGHT. A STRONG SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL DIVE  
DOWN THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES REGION ON WEDNESDAY WITH A DEEPENING  
SURFACE LOW TRACKING THROUGH THE UPPER GREAT LAKES. AN AREA OF SNOW  
WILL SPREAD OVER MUCH OF THE REGION BY WEDNESDAY MORNING WITH A WARM  
FRONT. SNOW, BRIEFLY MIXING WITH RAIN AT TIMES ON WEDNESDAY IS  
EXPECTED WITH LIGHT SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS POSSIBLE AREAWIDE. AS THE  
STRONG LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM PASSES BY TO OUR NORTH, A COLD FRONT WILL  
MOVE THROUGH WEDNESDAY EVENING. IT WILL BECOME WINDY WEDNESDAY  
THROUGH THURSDAY WITH GUSTS EASILY UP TO 35 MPH.THE AREAWIDE OF SNOW  
WILL TRANSITION BACK TO ORGANIZED LAKE EFFECT SNOW BANDS FOR BOTH  
THE PRIMARY AND MAYBE THE SECONDARY SNOWBELT WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH  
THURSDAY NIGHT WITH ADDITIONAL LOCALIZED HEAVY SNOW POSSIBLE.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /00Z SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/  
 
A HEAVY AND PERSISTENT BAND OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL CONTINUE TO  
IMPACT ERI AIRPORT THROUGH TONIGHT, BEFORE SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS  
PUSH THIS BAND NORTH OVER LAKE ERIE ON SATURDAY MORNING. THIS  
BAND HAS SHOWN SIGNS OF RE-ORGANIZING AND GAINING STRENGTH AGAIN THIS  
EVENING AND IS LIKELY TO MAINTAIN LIFR CONDITIONS WITH  
VISIBILITIES OFTEN AROUND 1/4 MILE THROUGH MOST OF THE  
OVERNIGHT. IT IS HARD TO TELL WHEN IMPROVEMENT MAY OCCUR, BUT  
LOOKING FOR IMPROVEMENT SOMETIME ON SATURDAY MORNING. SNOW WILL  
BE IN THE VICINITY ON SATURDAY BUT LIKELY TO PUSH NORTH OVER  
LAKE ERIE. ELSEWHERE, SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS THAT WE  
EXPERIENCED THIS AFTERNOON ARE EXPECTED TO TAPER OFF THIS  
EVENING WITH DRIER LOW LEVEL AIR ARRIVING. AT CLE, SNOW IS NOT  
LIKELY TO IMPACT THE TERMINAL WHILE A HEAVY BAND REMAINS JUST A  
FEW MILES NORTH OVER LAKE ERIE. CONDITIONS AT REMAINING AIRPORTS  
ARE GENERALLY EXPECTED TO BE VFR THROUGH THE TAF CYCLE.  
SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS OF 10-12 KNOTS WILL GUST TO 20-25 KNOTS  
THROUGH LATE SATURDAY AFTERNOON. GUSTS MAY BECOME LESS FREQUENT  
LATE TONIGHT BEFORE RESUMING AGAIN ON SATURDAY MORNING.  
 
OUTLOOK...NON-VFR LIKELY IN PERIODIC LAKE-EFFECT SNOW THROUGH  
TUESDAY. THE HEAVIEST AND MOST-PERSISTENT LAKE-EFFECT SNOW IN  
OUR REGION IS EXPECTED TO IMPACT THE PRIMARY SNOWBELT IN FAR  
NORTHEAST OHIO AND NORTHWEST PENNSYLVANIA. CLE MAY SEE LIGHT  
SNOW ACCUMULATIONS SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY MORNING.  
 
 
   
MARINE  
 
A LARGE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM NORTH OF THE GREAT LAKES WILL KEEP WINDS  
ELEVATED AND ROUGH CONDITIONS ON LAKE ERIE THIS WEEKEND THROUGH  
EARLY NEXT WEEK. WINDS THIS WEEKEND THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK WILL  
GENERALLY BE FROM THE WEST 15 TO 25+ PLUS WITH GUSTS UP TO 35 KNOTS  
AT TIMES WITH ORGANIZED SNOW SQUALLS. THERE MIGHT BE SOME SLIGHT  
VARIATION OF THE WESTERLY FLOW AT TIMES, TURNING MORE WEST-NORTHWEST  
OR WEST-SOUTHWEST. WAVES WILL REMAIN HIGH ESPECIALLY FOR THE CENTRAL  
AND EASTERN BASIN OF LAKE ERIE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. SMALL  
CRAFT ADVISORY ARE IN EFFECT AND MAY NEED TO BE EXTENDED FURTHER IN  
DURATION OVER TIME WITH NO CHANGES IN THE WEATHER PATTERN EXPECTED  
THROUGH MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. BY WEDNESDAY, A STRONG LOW PRESSURE  
SYSTEM MAY DEVELOP AND TRACK ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES WHICH WILL  
CHANGE OUR WINDS BRIEFLY FROM THE SOUTH 20 TO 30 KNOTS BEFORE  
RETURNING TO WEST-NORTHWEST WINDS FOLLOWING A COLD FRONT. LOW WATER  
ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT INTO SATURDAY WITH THE LATEST WATER LEVEL  
AT TOLEDO 2.7 INCHES BELOW THE LOW WATER DATUM. THE CRITICAL WATER  
LEVEL FOR SAFE NAVIGATION IS 3 INCHES ABOVE THE LOW WATER DATUM.  
WATER LEVELS WILL SLOWLY INCREASE AND IMPROVE LATE ON SATURDAY OVER  
THE WESTERN BASIN OF LAKE ERIE.  
 
 
   
CLE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
OH...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM EST SATURDAY FOR OHZ011.  
LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING UNTIL 10 AM EST SATURDAY FOR  
OHZ012>014-089.  
PA...LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING UNTIL 10 AM EST SATURDAY FOR PAZ001-  
002.  
MARINE...LOW WATER ADVISORY UNTIL 1 PM EST SATURDAY FOR LEZ142>144-  
162>164.  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM EST SATURDAY FOR LEZ142-143.  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 7 AM EST MONDAY FOR LEZ144>149.  
 
 
 
 
 
SYNOPSIS...GARUCKAS  
NEAR TERM...KEC/GARUCKAS  
SHORT TERM...GRIFFIN  
LONG TERM...GRIFFIN  
AVIATION...KEC  
MARINE...GRIFFIN  
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