786  
FXUS61 KCLE 301730  
AFDCLE  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CLEVELAND OH  
1230 PM EST SAT NOV 30 2024  
   
..18Z TAF AVIATION FORECAST UPDATE
 
 
   
SYNOPSIS
 
 
A SURFACE TROUGH WILL CONTINUE TO IMPACT THE AREA INTO NEXT WEEK  
BEFORE A BRIEF RIDGE TRIES TO BUILD NORTH ON TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY.  
ANOTHER LOW PRESSURE WILL MOVE EAST INTO QUEBEC BY THURSDAY, MOVING  
AN ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT EAST WEDNESDAY NIGHT.  
 

 
   
NEAR TERM /THROUGH SUNDAY/
 
 
945 AM UPDATE...  
WE WILL ALLOW THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING TO EXPIRE FOR GEAUGA  
AND CRAWFORD (PA) COUNTIES THIS MORNING AT 10 AM. THE REST OF  
THE WINTER WEATHER HEADLINES WILL CONTINUE. WE ADDED SOME SLIGHT  
TO CHANCE POPS TODAY ACROSS NORTHERN OHIO FOR SOME SCATTERED  
LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS. THE LATEST RADAR TRENDS SHOW SOME SCATTERED  
SNOW SHOWERS DEVELOPING OVER NWOH MOVING EASTWARD INTO NORTHERN  
AND NORTHEAST OHIO THROUGHOUT THE DAY. LITTLE TO NO  
ACCUMULATIONS EXPECTED WITH THE SCATTERED LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS  
TODAY OUTSIDE OF WARNING AREA.  
 
630 AM UPDATE...  
SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS WERE MADE TO TEMPERATURES AS SOME AREAS  
REMAINED A TAD WARMER THAN PREVIOUSLY FORECAST, ALTHOUGH STILL  
COLD IN THE LOW 20S. WIND CHILL VALUES THIS MORNING HAVE DROPPED  
INTO THE SINGLE DIGITS IN SOME LOCATIONS DUE TO THE GUSTY WINDS.  
MAKE SURE TO HAVE APPROPRIATE CLOTHING IF GOING OUT THIS  
MORNING OR IF REMOVING SNOW ACROSS AREAS IMPACTED BY THE ONGOING  
LAKE EFFECT SNOW SYSTEM. RADAR CURRENTLY DEPICTS A HEAVY LAKE  
EFFECT SNOW BAND MOVING ONSHORE ACROSS FAR EASTERN LAKE COUNTY  
THROUGH ERIE CO. PA. RATES WITHIN THIS BAND CONTINUE TO BE  
1-2"/HR AND WILL MAKE ANY RECOVERY ON ROADWAYS IN THE SNOWBELT  
VERY DIFFICULT. RESIDENTS IN THESE AREAS ARE ENCOURAGED TO  
REMAIN HOME AS MANY ROADWAYS ARE IMPASSABLE AND SOME ARE CLOSED.  
IF IT IS NECESSARY TO TRAVEL OUT, MAKE SURE TO HAVE PLENTY OF  
TIME AND BRING AN EMERGENCY KIT WITH YOU JUST IN CASE. THIS  
SYSTEM WILL CONTINUE TO EVOLVE THROUGHOUT TODAY SO STAY TUNED  
FOR FURTHER UPDATES.  
 
PREVIOUS DISCUSSION...  
STARTING OUT LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE, A BROAD UPPER LEVEL TROUGH  
CONTINUES TO MEANDER EAST AS A PERSISTENT SURFACE TROUGH IMPACTS THE  
GREAT LAKES REGION. THE POSITIONING OF THIS TROUGH HAS ALLOWED FOR A  
CONTINUED CAA REGIME TO PERSIST ACROSS THE REGION WITH 850MB  
TEMPERATURES FALLING TO -10 TO -14C. AT THE SURFACE, THIS HAS  
RESULTED IN THE COLDEST TEMPERATURES FELT SO FAR THIS SEASON, WITH  
CURRENT OBSERVATIONS IN THE UPPER TEENS TO LOW 20S. IN ADDITION,  
THIS AIRMASS REMAINS VERY DRY, WHICH IS ALLOWING FOR MUCH OF THE  
AREA TO REMAIN DRY THROUGH SUNDAY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A FEW  
SCATTERED LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS IN FAR NWOH AND ACROSS THE HIGHER  
TERRAIN WHICH WILL PRIMARILY BE A RESULT OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS  
OFF OF LAKE MICHIGAN. OPTED TO CAP THE POPS AT SLIGHT CHANCE. THESE  
SNOW SHOWERS ARE EXPECTED TO RESULT IN LITTLE TO NO ACCUMULATION OR  
NOTABLE IMPACTS OUTSIDE OF THE SNOWBELT.  
 
SHIFTING GEARS TO FOCUS ON THE SNOWBELT WHERE WIDESPREAD IMPACTS ARE  
ONGOING FROM THE PERSIST HEAVY LAKE EFFECT SNOW BANDS. THE LATEST  
BAND IS COMING ONSHORE AND IMPACTING LAKE CO. EAST THROUGH ERIE CO.  
PA WITH SNOWFALL RATES OF 1-2"/HR. WITH THESE RATES, ROAD CREWS WILL  
BE UNABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THEM AND IT IS ADVISED TO NOT TRAVEL  
UNLESS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. TRAVEL IN PORTIONS OF THESE COUNTIES IS  
NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE WITH LARGE STRETCHES OF I90 AND I86 CLOSED. SOME  
SNOWFALL TOTALS HAVE ALREADY EXCEEDED 30" AND IS EXPECTED TO  
CONTINUE TO DEEPEN IN THE COMING DAYS AS AN IDEAL LAKE EFFECT SET-UP  
PERSISTS.  
 
FOCUSING SOLELY WITHIN THIS TIME PERIOD (ENDING AT 00Z MONDAY), A  
PERSISTENT SURFACE TROUGH WILL MAINTAIN A PREDOMINANTLY WEST FLOW  
ACROSS LAKE ERIE. 850MB TEMPERATURES OF -10 TO -14C WILL CONTINUE TO  
MOVE ACROSS THE LAKE AVERAGING ~9C, CREATING STRONG LAKE INDUCED  
INSTABILITY. THIS FLOW WILL CONTINUE TO ALLOW FOR A CONVERGENT  
BOUNDARY NEAR THE LAKESHORE OF LAKE, ASHTABULA, AND ERIE PA COUNTIES  
WHERE HI-RES MODELS AND RGEM SUGGEST THE TROUGH AXIS LINGERING.  
MODELED SOUNDINGS CONTINUE TO SUGGEST DEEP EQL WITH STRONG LAPSE  
RATES BOTH ALLOWING FOR VERY EFFICIENT SNOWFALL RATES OF 1-2"/HR TO  
PERSIST. CONFIDENCE IN THIS EVENT IS VERY HIGH, THE ONLY LINGERING  
QUESTION IS HOW QUICKLY THE DOMINANT BAND WILL SHIFT NORTH TODAY  
WITH A BRIEF SHIFT IN WINDS TO THE SOUTHWEST. SOME HI-RES MODELS  
HAVE THIS BAND LINGERING A BIT LONGER THAN PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT,  
POTENTIALLY IMPACTING FAR NORTHEASTERN ERIE COUNTY THROUGH THE WHOLE  
PERIOD. WITH THIS SLIGHTLY LONGER RESIDENCE TIME ON THE IMMEDIATE  
LAKESHORE, ADDITIONAL SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS TODAY OF 10-20" IS  
POSSIBLE WITH HIGHEST TOTALS ACROSS THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE  
COUNTY. ASHTABULA AND LAKE COUNTY HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO RECEIVE AN  
ADDITIONAL 8-15" TODAY, AGAIN CLOSEST TO THE LAKESHORE. THIS WILL  
RESULT IN CONTINUED WIDESPREAD IMPACTS AND NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TRAVEL  
CONDITIONS, ESPECIALLY ALONG I-90 AND US-20. IN ADDITION TO THE  
ADDITIONAL FALLING SNOW CONCERN, WIND GUSTS OF 25-30 MPH WILL RESULT  
IN PATCHY BLOWING SNOW WHICH WILL FURTHER ENHANCE THE IMPACTS,  
INCLUDING QUICK REDUCTIONS IN VISIBILITIES EVEN IN AREAS WHERE IT IS  
NOT ACTIVELY SNOWING. BY TONIGHT, THE DOMINANT BAND 'SHOULD' SHIFT  
NORTH OVER THE LAKE AND ALLOW FOR A BRIEF REPRIEVE FROM ACCUMULATING  
SNOW THROUGH SUNDAY MORNING FOR MOST AREAS. THIS IS EXPECTED TO BE  
SHORT LIVED AS THE WINDS AGAIN SHIFT AND THE TROUGH AXIS SHIFTS  
FURTHER SOUTH ALLOWING FOR THIS BAND TO BEGIN TO SHIFT INLAND AGAIN  
SUNDAY AFTERNOON. THIS WILL RESULT IN ANOTHER PERIOD OF IMPACTFUL  
LAKE EFFECT SNOWFALL FOR THE SNOWBELT. HIGH TEMPERATURES TODAY AND  
TOMORROW WILL CLIMB INTO THE MID TO UPPER 20S WITH OVERNIGHT LOWS  
DROPPING INTO THE TEENS. WIND CHILL VALUES OVERNIGHT WILL LIKELY  
DROP INTO THE SINGLE DIGITS.  
 
WITH A RATHER SIGNIFICANT AND IMPACTFUL EVENT ONGOING, THOUGHT  
IT WOULD BE WORTH EXPLAINING THE HEADLINE DECISIONS MADE THIS  
MORNING TO ENSURE WIDESPREAD UNDERSTANDING OF THE TIMING.  
- CUYAHOGA COUNTY: THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR CUYAHOGA  
COUNTY HAS BEEN CANCELLED AS ANY IMPACTFUL SNOWFALL SHOULD  
REMAIN EAST OF THE COUNTY. A WINTER STORM WATCH FOR LAKE  
EFFECT SNOW WAS ISSUED FOR THE TIME PERIOD SPANNING SUNDAY  
AFTERNOON THROUGH MONDAY EVENING TO ACCOUNT FOR THE SECOND  
WAVE OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW THAT WILL IMPACT THE COUNTY.  
- GEAUGA AND CRAWFORD PA COUNTIES: ONGOING LIGHT LAKE EFFECT  
HAS RESULTED IN MAINTAINING THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING UNTIL  
10AM, WHICH SHOULD BE LONG ENOUGH FOR THE BAND TO SHIFT NORTH  
AND HOVER CLOSER TO THE LAKESHORE. UP TO 1" IN GEAUGA AND 3"  
IS POSSIBLE IN CRAWFORD PA THIS MORNING. IN ADDITION, A WINTER  
STORM WATCH FOR LAKE EFFECT SNOW WAS ISSUED FOR THE TIME  
PERIOD SPANNING SUNDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH MONDAY EVENING TO  
ACCOUNT FOR THE SECOND WAVE OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW THAT WILL  
IMPACT THE COUNTY.  
- ASHTABULA, LAKE, AND ERIE PA COUNTIES: THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW  
WARNING HAS BEEN EXTENDED AND NOW EXPIRES AT 7AM ON TUESDAY.  
OPTED TO EXTENDED THE WARNING TO ACCOUNT FOR WIDESPREAD AND  
SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS THAT ARE ONGOING FROM WHAT HAS ALREADY  
FALLEN. ALTHOUGH THERE MAY BE A BREAK IN SNOWFALL TONIGHT,  
RECOVERY FROM ONGOING HAZARDOUS CONDITIONS COMBINED WITH THE  
LIKELIHOOD OF BLOWING SNOW WILL RESULT IN CONTINUED HAZARDOUS  
TRAVEL CONDITIONS AND MOTORISTS ARE ENCOURAGES TO STAY OFF THE  
ROADS. THIS ESSENTIALLY MEANS THERE IS A PORTION OF THE  
WARNING TIME PERIOD (TONIGHT) THAT IS PRIMARILY DRIVEN OFF OF  
IMPACTS VERSUS ACCUMULATING SNOWFALL.  
 

 
   
SHORT TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT/
 
 
IN CASE THE FINE FOLKS OF FAR NORTHEAST OHIO AND NORTHWEST  
PENNSYLVANIA HAVEN'T HAD ENOUGH SNOW YET, THE SHORT TERM PERIOD WILL  
HAVE SOME MORE TO ADD ONTO THEIR GAUDY SNOW TOTALS SO FAR. ON MIDDAY  
SUNDAY, THE MAIN UPPER LEVEL TROUGH AXIS WILL MOVE THROUGH THE  
EASTERN GREAT LAKES REGION. THIS WILL ALLOW FOR THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW  
BANDS TO ADVANCE SOUTH AGAIN BACK TOWARD THE FORECAST AREA. WITH A  
MEAN WIND DIRECTION NORTH OF WEST, THERE WILL BE SOME AID FROM THE  
GREAT LAKES UPSTREAM TO HELP INVIGORATE LAKE EFFECT SNOW FOR A  
LARGER AREA WITHIN NORTHEAST OHIO, ESPECIALLY BACK TOWARD THE  
CLEVELAND METRO AREA. THE THERMODYNAMICS FOR SUNDAY EVENING REMAIN  
ADEQUATE FOR LAKE EFFECT SNOW WITH HALF INCH TO ONE INCH PER HOUR  
SNOWFALL RATES WITH A BOUNDARY LAYER DEPTH AROUND 8 KFT, LAKE  
INDUCED INSTABILITY AROUND 800 J/KG, AND SUFFICIENT LIFT WITHIN A  
2500 FT DGZ. THE LIFT FROM THE UPPER TROUGH MOVING THROUGH THE  
REGION WILL ALSO HELP WITH EFFICIENT SNOWFALL. WITH THIS PHASE OF  
THE LAKE EFFECT EVENT, THERE WILL BE TWO LIMITATIONS TO TOTAL  
SNOWFALL. FIRST, THE MORE NORTHWEST FLOW ACROSS THE REGION WILL USE  
A SHORTER FETCH OVER LAKE ERIE AND LIMIT THE TOTAL PARCEL RESIDENCE  
TIME OVER THE LAKE FOR BUILDING MORE EFFICIENT SNOWFALL. THE OTHER  
CONCERN IS THAT THE NORTHWEST FLOW WILL HAVE LESS MOISTURE DEPTH AND  
BE MORE DEPENDENT ON THE UPSTREAM LAKE COMPONENT. REGARDLESS, THERE  
IS CONFIDENCE AT THIS TIME TO HAVE A RIBBON OF 6 TO 12 INCHES OF  
SNOW FOR NORTHEAST CUYAHOGA COUNTY THROUGH ERIE COUNTY PA FOR SUNDAY  
THROUGH MONDAY EVENING. SOME OF THE LAKE EFFECT WARNINGS HAVE BEEN  
EXTENDED TO INCORPORATE THIS TIME FRAME, WHILE NEW WINTER STORM  
WATCHES HAVE BEEN POSTED FOR AREAS WHERE THE SNOW WILL BE ENDING  
THIS MORNING BUT RETURN ON SUNDAY. THERE WILL BE ISSUES FOR THE  
MONDAY MORNING COMMUTE IN THIS REGION.  
 
ANOTHER SHORTWAVE WILL MOVE THROUGH MONDAY AFTERNOON AND DRY AIR AND  
SOME SUBSIDENCE WILL START TO ENTER FOR MONDAY NIGHT. HIGH PRESSURE  
WILL STRENGTHEN OVER THE OHIO VALLEY ON TUESDAY AND FLOW WILL BACK  
ACROSS THE REGION. THIS WILL END THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW EVENT AND  
ALLOW FOR JUST SOME SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS ON TUESDAY WITH MINIMAL  
IMPACT. TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN BELOW NORMAL FOR THE PERIOD WITH  
HIGHS IN THE 30S AND LOWS IN THE 20S.  
 

 
   
LONG TERM /WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/
 
 
AN ACTIVE PATTERN RESUMES ON WEDNESDAY AS A NEW UPPER TROUGH WILL  
DIG INTO THE GREAT LAKES REGION AND A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM  
WILL MOVE THROUGH THE NORTHERN LAKES INTO CANADA. THIS SYSTEM  
APPEARS TO BRING WIDESPREAD SNOWFALL ALONG WITH SOME GUSTY WINDS TO  
THE REGION. BEHIND THE SYSTEM, ANOTHER COLD AIR MASS WILL SETTLE  
INTO THE AREA AND BRING BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES AND LIKELY SOME  
MORE LAKE EFFECT SNOW. WHILE DETAILS ARE TOO EARLY TO PROCESS, IT  
APPEARS THAT FLOW WILL FAVOR A NORTHWEST DIRECTION, WHICH WOULD  
ALLOW FOR A WIDER AREA OF THE NE OH/NW PA SNOW BELT TO GET INVOLVED  
WITH SNOW. SOMETHING TO STAY TUNED ABOUT FOR THE END OF THE  
WEEK...  
 

 
   
AVIATION /18Z SATURDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/
 
 
CONDITIONS RANGE FROM VFR ACROSS NWOH TO LOW END MVFR AND IFR  
OVER FAR NEOH AND NWPA, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE ERI AREA. SKIES  
HAVE EVEN CLEARED OUT FOR AREAS LIKE FDY AND MFD THIS EARLY  
AFTERNOON. VFR CEILINGS ARE EXPECTED FOR MUCH OF NORTHERN OHIO  
FOR THE REST OF THE AFTERNOON THROUGH SUNDAY MORNING. ERI WILL  
BE NEAR THE EDGE OF A STRONG LAKE EFFECT SNOW BAND. THIS BAND  
SHOULD MOVE JUST OFFSHORE OF ERI WITH THE WORST OF THE SNOW BUT  
WILL COULD BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO CAUSE ADDITIONAL IMPACTS TO  
VISIBILITY, CEILINGS, AND WEATHER CONDITIONS AT ERI THIS  
AFTERNOON INTO OVERNIGHT. WE WILL MAINTAIN AT LEAST MVFR  
CONDITIONS FOR ERI WITH 3SM TO 5SM LIGHT SNOW AND CEILINGS BELOW  
3000 FEET THROUGH MUCH OF THIS TAF PERIOD. THERE WILL BE OFF  
AND ON PERIODS WHERE IFR WILL BE VERY POSSIBLE THIS AFTERNOON  
INTO THE OVERNIGHT WITH PASSING HEAVIER SNOW SHOWERS. WEST TO  
SOUTHWEST WINDS 8 TO 15 KNOTS ARE EXPECTED FOR THE NEXT 24  
HOURS. GUSTS UP TO 20 KNOTS POSSIBLE THIS AFTERNOON. ERI WILL  
CONTINUE WITH GUSTY WINDS UP TO 25 KNOT THROUGH THE NEXT 24  
HOURS.  
 
OUTLOOK...NON-VFR LIKELY IN PERIODIC LAKE-EFFECT SNOW THROUGH  
TUESDAY. THE HEAVIEST AND MOST-PERSISTENT LAKE-EFFECT SNOW IN  
OUR REGION IS EXPECTED TO IMPACT THE PRIMARY SNOWBELT IN FAR  
NORTHEAST OHIO AND NORTHWEST PENNSYLVANIA.  
 

 
   
MARINE
 
 
A LAKE AGGREGATE TROUGH WITH A STRONG LAKE EFFECT SNOW BAND HAS  
SETUP ACROSS LAKE ERIE AND STRONG GENERALLY WESTERLY WINDS HAVE SET  
UP OVER THE LAKE. THERE HAS BEEN SOME BACKED FLOW ALONG THE  
IMMEDIATE LAKESHORE WITH SOME WINDS BELOW 20 KT IN THE CENTRAL  
BASIN. HOWEVER, WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO REMAIN ELEVATED AROUND 20 KT  
AND WAVES WILL BE 4 FT OR GREATER EAST OF THE LAKE ERIE ISLANDS.  
HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD FROM THE SOUTH FOR TUESDAY AND REDUCE FLOW,  
BUT HIGHER WAVES SHOULD PERSIST FOR THE CENTRAL BASIN. THE NEXT  
SYSTEM WILL ENTER THE GREAT LAKES REGION FOR WEDNESDAY AND THERE  
WILL BE A STRONG UPTICK IN WINDS WITH SOUTHWEST FLOW. THERE IS A NON-  
ZERO CHANCE FOR GALES WITH THIS SETUP. FOR THIS MORNING'S PACKAGE,  
HAVE REDISTRIBUTED THE WEATHER HEADLINES A BIT. THE WESTERLY FLOW  
WILL REMAIN ELEVATED OVER THE WESTERN BASIN, WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR  
THE WATER LEVELS TO DROP AGAIN THIS AFTERNOON TOWARD THE CRITICAL  
MARK. THEREFORE, HAVE EXTENDED BOTH THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY AND LOW  
WATER ADVISORY TO 10 PM TONIGHT. FOR THE ISLANDS TO VERMILION ZONE,  
BELIEVE THAT THE FORECAST IS LESS SEVERE FOR SMALL CRAFT CONDITIONS  
ON SUNDAY AND HAVE ADDED THAT ZONE TO THE WESTERN BASIN GROUPING  
ENDING AT 10 PM TONIGHT. FOR VERMILION AND EAST, THE SMALL CRAFT  
ADVISORY CONDITIONS WILL REMAIN SEMI-PERMANENT THIS WEEK AND HAVE  
GONE AHEAD AND ADDED TWO DAYS TO THE HEADLINE WITH A NEW ENDING TIME  
OF 7 AM WEDNESDAY. HOWEVER, THIS END TIME DOESN'T REFLECT THE END OF  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY CONDITIONS, AS CONDITIONS WILL WORSEN ON  
WEDNESDAY AND THERE IS A NON-ZERO GALE WARNING CHANCE.  
 

 
   
CLE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
OH...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM SUNDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH MONDAY  
EVENING FOR OHZ011-013.  
LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING UNTIL 7 AM EST TUESDAY FOR OHZ012-014-  
089.  
PA...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM SUNDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH MONDAY  
EVENING FOR PAZ003.  
LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING UNTIL 7 AM EST TUESDAY FOR PAZ001-002.  
MARINE...LOW WATER ADVISORY UNTIL 10 PM EST THIS EVENING FOR LEZ142>144-  
162>164.  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 10 PM EST THIS EVENING FOR  
LEZ142>144.  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 7 AM EST WEDNESDAY FOR LEZ145>149.  
 

 
 

 
 
SYNOPSIS...CAMPBELL  
NEAR TERM...CAMPBELL/GRIFFIN  
SHORT TERM...SEFCOVIC  
LONG TERM...SEFCOVIC  
AVIATION...GRIFFIN  
MARINE...SEFCOVIC  
 
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