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FXUS61 KCLE 220553  
AFDCLE  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CLEVELAND OH  
153 AM EDT WED OCT 22 2025  
   
SYNOPSIS
 
 
A TROUGH MOVES EAST ACROSS THE AREA THIS EVENING, WITH ANOTHER TROUGH  
CROSSING THE AREA WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY THURSDAY. HIGH PRESSURE  
BUILDS INTO THE OHIO VALLEY AND MOVES ACROSS THE AREA THIS WEEKEND. A  
WEAK DISTURBANCE MOVES THROUGH THE OHIO VALLEY MONDAY AND TUESDAY.  
 

 
   
NEAR TERM /UNTIL 7 AM THIS MORNING/
 
 
UPDATE...  
 
A COLD FRONT EXTENDED SSW'WARD FROM LONG POINT, ON AREA TO NEAR  
SALEM, OH AT 9:49 PM EDT THIS EVENING. THIS FRONT AND ASSOCIATED  
LINE OF RAIN SHOWERS, SOME STEADY TO HEAVY, WILL PERSIST E'WARD  
AND SHOULD EXIT THE REST OF OUR REGION BY ROUGHLY 11 PM THIS  
EVENING AS THE DOWNSHEAR GUST FRONT RELEASES WEAK POTENTIAL  
INSTABILITY IN THE LOWEST 1 KM AGL AMIDST MODERATE TO STRONG  
DEEP-LAYER BULK SHEAR. THESE SHOWERS WILL BE LAKE-ENHANCED AND  
SHOULD OCCASIONALLY EVOLVE INTO THUNDERSTORMS OVER LAKE ERIE DUE  
TO CONTINUED MODERATE TO STRONG LAKE-INDUCED CAPE OVER THE ~17C  
LAKE. THE POTENTIAL FOR STRONG SURFACE STRAIGHT-LINE WIND GUSTS  
TO ACCOMPANY THE LINE OF SHOWERS ALONG THE FRONT HAS ENDED AS  
THE BOUNDARY LAYER, OVER LAND, CONTINUES TO STABILIZE VIA  
NOCTURNAL COOLING. AHEAD OF AND BEHIND THIS LINE, LAKE-EFFECT  
RAIN SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL CONTINUE TO STREAM GENERALLY  
NE'WARD OVER AND DOWNWIND OF LAKE ERIE THROUGH TONIGHT AMIDST A  
SW'ERLY MEAN LOW-LEVEL FLOW OF SUFFICIENTLY-COLD AND RATHER  
MOIST AIR. BEHIND THE FRONT AND OUTSIDE THE LAKE-EFFECT PRECIP,  
ISOLATED SHOWERS REMAIN POSSIBLE THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT AS WEAK  
POTENTIAL INSTABILITY IN THE LOWEST 1 KM AGL IS RELEASED BY LOW-  
LEVEL CONVERGENCE/MOIST ASCENT ALONG E'WARD-MOVING SURFACE  
TROUGH AXES ACCOMPANYING SUBTLE SHORTWAVE DISTURBANCES EMBEDDED  
IN SW'ERLY TO WNW'ERLY CYCLONIC FLOW ALOFT. THE REST OF THE  
FORECAST REMAINS VALID PER LATEST TRENDS IN OBS AND MODEL  
GUIDANCE. PLEASE SEE DISCUSSION BELOW FOR FURTHER DETAILS.  
 
PREVIOUS DISCUSSION...  
 
A LARGE CLOSED LOW IS MOVING EAST INTO THE GREAT LAKES. A SHARP  
SURFACE TROUGH (REALLY MORE OF A SECONDARY COLD FRONT) WILL MOVE EAST  
ACROSS THE AREA THROUGH ABOUT MIDNIGHT...IT IS NEAR THE OHIO/INDIANA  
BORDER AS OF 3 PM. WITH ASSISTANCE FROM THE LEFT-EXIT QUADRANT OF A  
JET STREAK ROTATING AROUND THE CLOSED LOW AND AN EMBEDDED VORT MAX, A  
BROKEN BAND OF LOW-TOPPED CONVECTIVE SHOWERS AND SOME STORMS WILL  
ACCOMPANY THE SURFACE TROUGH EAST ACROSS OUR FORECAST AREA. ACTIVITY  
SHOULD EXIT TO THE EAST WITH THE TROUGH BY MIDNIGHT, WITH THUNDER  
POTENTIALLY GRADUALLY DECREASING AFTER 9 OR 10 PM. THE MAIN FOCUS  
OVERNIGHT WILL THEN TURN TOWARDS A DEVELOPING BAND OF ROBUST LAKE  
EFFECT RAIN, WHICH MAY INITIALLY GRAZE THE EASTERN LAKESHORE AS IT  
TAKES SHAPE AROUND MIDNIGHT BEFORE LIFTING OFFSHORE AND INTO WESTERN  
NEW YORK OVERNIGHT AMID DEEP-LAYER WEST-SOUTHWEST FLOW. IT WILL BE A  
MOSTLY CLOUDY BUT MAINLY DRY REST OF THE NIGHT ELSEWHERE, THOUGH AS  
VARIOUS SPOKES OF MOISTURE AND WEAK MID-LEVEL VORTICITY ROTATE AROUND  
THE LARGER CLOSED LOW A FEW PASSING SPRINKLES OR LIGHT SHOWERS  
CONTINUE TO REMAIN POSSIBLE ANYWHERE. FORECAST RAIN AMOUNTS ARE  
GENERALLY ON EITHER SIDE OF 0.10" WITH THIS EVENING'S LOW-TOPPED  
CONVECTION, WITH AMOUNTS WITH ANY OVERNIGHT ACTIVITY VERY LIGHT. LOWS  
TONIGHT WILL RANGE FROM THE UPPER 30S TO MID 40S, WITH BRISK WEST-  
SOUTHWEST WINDS GUSTING 20-30 MPH, DRIVING "WIND CHILLS" INTO THE 30S.  
 
THE SPC HAS PLACED A MARGINAL RISK FOR SEVERE WEATHER (LEVEL 1 OF 5)  
ACROSS A GOOD PORTION OF OUR AREA THIS EVENING. RELATIVELY STEEP LOW  
TO MID-LEVEL LAPSE RATES BENEATH THE COLD CORE ALOFT AND DEEP LOW-  
LEVEL INVERTED-V SOUNDINGS SUGGEST EFFICIENT MOMENTUM TRANSFER, WITH  
SUB-CLOUD EVAPORATIONAL COOLING SUPPORTING COLD POOL DEVELOPMENT WITH  
ANY ORGANIZED CONVECTION. WITH MODERATE FLOW ALOFT, IT WON'T TAKE A  
TON OF CONVECTIVE ENHANCEMENT TO GET SOME STRONG (40MPH+) TO PERHAPS  
LOCALLY SEVERE (58MPH+) WIND GUSTS WITH THIS CONVECTION, ALONG WITH  
SMALL/SOFT HAIL. SOME CONVECTIVE ALLOWING MODELS SUGGEST THE  
CONVECTION BRIEFLY CONGEALING INTO A COUPLE OF MORE SOLID LINE  
SEGMENTS BETWEEN ABOUT 5-8 PM, WHICH WOULD BE THE GREATEST POTENTIAL  
FOR LOCALLY SEVERE WIND GUSTS. SO, WILL MONITOR THIS ACTIVITY EAST  
ACROSS THE AREA FOR SPECIAL WX STATEMENTS AND PERHAPS A WARNING OR TWO  
THROUGH THE EVENING. EXPECT THE BITE OF ANY WIND GUSTS (AND ANY  
SEVERE THREAT) WITH THE CONVECTION TO START DECREASING AFTER 8 PM, AS  
NOCTURNAL STABILIZATION PERHAPS ADDS JUST ENOUGH OF A NEAR-SURFACE  
INVERSION TO LIMIT MOMENTUM TRANSFER TO THE SURFACE.  
 

 
   
SHORT TERM /7 AM THIS MORNING THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/
 
 
THE GREAT LAKES CLOSED LOW WILL GRADUALLY SHIFT EAST-NORTHEAST  
TOWARDS QUEBEC AND NEW ENGLAND THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT, WITH  
OCCASIONAL SURFACE TROUGHS AND EMBEDDED WEAK SHORTWAVES  
CONTINUING TO ROTATE AROUND THE LARGER CLOSED LOW. THIS WILL  
CONTINUE CHILLY, BREEZY, AND SHOWERY WEATHER. SHOWER CHANCES  
OUTSIDE OF THE LAKE EFFECT WILL LARGELY BE TIED TO ANY SURFACE  
TROUGH AND SHORTWAVE PASSAGES, WITH SOME ENHANCEMENT FROM LAKE  
MICHIGAN INTO NORTHWEST OHIO AT TIMES. THE MAIN FOCUS FOR  
HEAVIER PRECIPITATION WILL BE WITH THE LAKE EFFECT OFF OF LAKE  
ERIE INTO THE PRIMARY SNOWBELT REGION.  
 
THE LAKE EFFECT WILL BE OFFSHORE AND INTO WESTERN NEW YORK TO START  
THE DAY WEDNESDAY. A WEAK SHORTWAVE AND SURFACE TROUGH MOVE ACROSS THE  
AREA LATE WEDNESDAY MORNING AND EARLY AFTERNOON, BRINGING AN UPTICK IN  
ISOLATED TO SCATTERED SHOWERS ELSEWHERE AND PUSHING THE LAKE EFFECT  
BAND SOUTHEAST TOWARDS THE SHORELINE BETWEEN LAKE COUNTY OH AND ERIE  
COUNTY PA. LAKE EFFECT WILL STRUGGLE TO REALLY PUSH INLAND LATE  
WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH MUCH OF WEDNESDAY NIGHT (DESPITE WHAT SOME  
CONVECTIVE ALLOWING MODELS SHOW), GIVEN FLOW QUICKLY WANTING TO BACK  
SOUTHWEST AHEAD OF THE NEXT SURFACE TROUGH AND SHORTWAVE, WHICH WILL  
APPROACH WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND CROSS EARLY THURSDAY MORNING. THIS IDEA  
IS FURTHER SUPPORTED BY THE WARMTH OF THE LAKE, ARGUING FOR A STRONG  
LAKE AGGREGATE TROUGH, A FEATURE THAT NOTORIOUSLY CAUSES STRONG,  
SINGLE LAKE EFFECT BANDS TO REMAIN TIED CLOSER TO THE SHORELINE THAN  
MODELED. FOR THIS FORECAST, HEAVILY FAVORED THE RGEM FOR THE GENERAL  
PLACEMENT OF THE LAKE EFFECT BAND. THE TROUGH PASSAGE EARLY THURSDAY  
MAY BRING A FEW SPRINKLES OR SHOWERS ANYWHERE, ESPECIALLY DOWNWIND OF  
LAKE MICHIGAN, AND WILL VEER THE MEAN FLOW MORE SUBSTANTIALLY, PUSHING  
THE MAIN LAKE EFFECT BAND CLOSER TO THE CLEVELAND AREA AND FARTHER  
INLAND ACROSS THE PRIMARY SNOWBELT. THE LAKE EFFECT WILL LIKELY  
TRANSITION FROM AN ORGANIZED SINGLE BAND TO MORE DISORGANIZED MULTI-  
BANDS AT SOME POINT ON THURSDAY AS THE MEAN FLOW OVER THE LAKE GOES  
CLOSER TO NORTHWEST. FROM THERE, LAKE EFFECT WILL CONTINUE TO EBB AND  
FLOW IN GENERAL WEST-NORTHWEST FLOW THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT AS ANY  
ADDITION TROUGHS ROTATE THROUGH, WITH GUIDANCE HINTING AT ANOTHER  
TROUGH THURSDAY EVENING. PASSING SPRINKLE/SHOWER CHANCES DIMINISH  
OUTSIDE OF THE LAKE EFFECT THURSDAY NIGHT AS THE CLOSED LOW GRADUALLY  
EXITS, ALLOWING HIGH PRESSURE TO APPROACH FROM THE SOUTHWEST.  
 
OVER LAKE WATER TEMPERATURES OF 17-18C, 500MB TEMPERATURES BOTTOMING  
OUT AROUND -26C, 700MB AROUND -12C, AND 850MB AROUND -2C SUGGEST VERY  
STRONG AND DEEP INSTABILITY, WHICH IS VALIDATED BY RAW MODEL FORECAST  
SOUNDINGS DEPICTING CAPE EXTENDING TO 20K FEET OR HIGHER AT TIMES,  
WHICH IS ENOUGH INSTABILITY FOR CHARGE SEPARATION/LIGHTNING AND SMALL  
HAIL/GRAUPEL IN THE MORE INTENSE LAKE EFFECT BAND WHEN IT'S CRANKING.  
THE THERMODYNAMICS ARE MOST FAVORABLE THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING BEFORE  
TEMPERATURES ALOFT SLOWLY START WARMING. THERE WILL BE ABUNDANT  
SYNOPTIC MOISTURE INTO THURSDAY WITHIN THE INFLUENCE OF THE LARGE  
CLOSED-LOW, WITH FAIRLY MINIMAL AMOUNTS OF WIND SHEAR EXCEPT FOR BRIEF  
PERIODS OF STRONGER SHEAR NEAR THE TROUGH PASSAGES. ALL THIS TO SAY  
THAT LAKE EFFECT WILL BE INTENSE THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING, WITH HEAVY  
RAIN, THUNDER/LIGHTNING, AND SOME FROZEN HYDROMETEORS AT TIMES NEAR  
THE LAKE. A SHORTER FETCH, SOMEWHAT MORE SHEAR, AND GRADUALLY  
DECREASING INSTABILITY WILL LEAD TO INTENSITY GRADUALLY DECREASING  
THURSDAY AFTERNOON, THOUGH NOT NEARLY TO THE POINT WHERE IT STOPS.  
 
THE MAIN FOCUS FOR HEAVY QPF IS LATE WEDNESDAY THROUGH EARLY  
THURSDAY, WHEN ACTIVITY MAY PERSIST ALONG THE GENERAL I-90 CORRIDOR  
BETWEEN LAKE COUNTY AND ERIE COUNTY PA WHILE INTENSE. THE FORECAST  
MAINTAINS 1-3" OF RAIN BETWEEN LAKE, FAR NORTHEAST CUYAHOGA, AND  
NORTHERN GEAUGA COUNTIES NORTHEAST ACROSS NORTHERN ASHTABULA AND MUCH  
OF ERIE COUNTIES THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT. SOME HI-RES MODELS SUGGEST  
LOCALLY UP TO 4-5" OF RAIN IS POSSIBLE IF THE BAND IS ESPECIALLY  
INTENSE/PERSISTENT IN ONE SPOT, THOUGH THOSE GAUDIER TOTALS WILL BE  
MORE FEASIBLE JUST OFFSHORE OF ERIE COUNTY PA THAN ON LAND. STILL,  
WILL MONITOR FOR LOCALIZED FLOODING CONCERNS IF A PERIOD OF FOCUSED  
AND PERSISTENT HEAVY RAIN CAN MATERIALIZE. RAIN AMOUNTS WITH THE LAKE  
EFFECT DRAMATICALLY DROP OFF TOWARDS A CLE-YNG LINE, WHICH IS ABOUT AS  
FAR SOUTHWEST AS THE ORGANIZED BAND MAY GET THURSDAY MORNING BEFORE  
BREAKING UP INTO MULTI-BANDS. LOCATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE LAKE EFFECT  
SHOULD SEE LESS THAN 0.25" OF RAIN DURING THE SHORT TERM PERIOD.  
 
HIGHS BOTH DAYS WILL BE STUCK WELL DOWN INTO THE 50S, WITH THE HIGHER  
TERRAIN OF FAR NORTHEAST OH AND NORTHWEST PA IN THE 40S. OVERNIGHT  
LOWS WILL RANGE FROM THE MID 30S TO MID 40S, WARMEST IN THE PRIMARY  
SNOWBELT AND DOWNWIND OF LAKE ERIE. SOME FROST IS POSSIBLE ACROSS OUR  
WESTERN AND SOUTHWESTERN COUNTIES THURSDAY NIGHT, AS APPROACHING HIGH  
PRESSURE BRINGS A SOMEWHAT WEAKER PRESSURE GRADIENT AND CLEARER SKIES.  
WIND GUSTS OF 30-40 MPH ARE LIKELY WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON ACROSS THE AREA  
IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE EXPECTED TROUGH PASSAGE.  
 

 
   
LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/
 
 
HIGH PRESSURE GRADUALLY BUILDS IN FOR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. LINGERING  
LAKE EFFECT CONTINUES FRIDAY AND PERHAPS EVEN INTO SATURDAY ACROSS FAR  
NORTHEAST OHIO AND NORTHWEST PA, THOUGH WILL NOT BE PARTICULARLY  
SIGNIFICANT BY THEN. GUIDANCE HAS BEEN GRADUALLY TRENDED TOWARDS  
STRONGER HIGH PRESSURE THIS WEEKEND, WHICH WOULD KEEP A WEAK SYSTEM  
MOVING ACROSS THE SOUTH OUT OF OUR PICTURE AND LEAD TO DRY WEATHER.  
SOME LOW POPS LINGER IN THE FORECAST FOR SUNDAY AND MONDAY FOR NOW,  
BUT ARE TRENDING DOWN. TEMPERATURES GRADUALLY MODERATE TO NEAR OR  
SLIGHTLY WARMER THAN AVERAGE TO START NEXT WEEK. SOME ADDITIONAL  
FROST/FREEZE CONCERNS ARE POSSIBLE FRIDAY-SATURDAY NIGHTS.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /06Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/
 
 
SURFACE LOW PRESSURE REMAINS PARKED OVER THE GREAT LAKES REGION  
THROUGH THE TAF PERIOD. SIMULTANEOUSLY, MULTIPLE EMBEDDED  
DISTURBANCES ALOFT WILL MOVE ACROSS THE REGION PROVIDING  
SUPPORT FOR ISOLATED TO SCATTERED RAIN SHOWERS THROUGH THE TAF  
PERIOD. SHOWERS ARE MOST LIKELY TO OCCUR THIS AFTERNOON AND  
EARLY EVENING AND MAY BE ACCOMPANIED BY BRIEF PERIODS OF MVFR  
VISIBILITIES. ADDITIONALLY, WIDESPREAD MVFR CEILINGS ARE  
EXPECTED TO SPREAD SOUTHEAST ACROSS TERMINALS EARLY THIS MORNING  
THROUGH DAYBREAK AND PERSIST AT TAF SITES THROUGH TONIGHT.  
 
LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS, HEAVY AT TIMES, WITH EMBEDDED  
THUNDERSTORMS WILL DEVELOP THIS MORNING OVER LAKE ERIE. LAKE  
EFFECT RAIN SHOULD PRIMARILY REMAIN OFFSHORE THIS MORNING  
BEFORE SHIFTING SOUTH TOWARDS EXTREME NORTHEAST OHIO AND  
NORTHWEST PENNSYLVANIA THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. GREATEST  
IMPACTS WILL REMAIN ISOLATED TO KERI WHERE MVFR TO IFR  
CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED IN HEAVIEST SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS.  
KEPT ANY TS MENTION OUT OF THE KERI TAF FOR NOW.  
 
GUSTY SOUTHWESTERLY TO WESTERLY WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO PERSIST  
THROUGH THE TAF PERIOD. SUSTAINED WINDS 10-20 KNOTS WITH GUSTS  
20-30 KNOTS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH TONIGHT.  
 
OUTLOOK...PERIODS OF NON-VFR ARE EXPECTED TONIGHT THROUGH THIS  
WEEKEND AS SCATTERED TO WIDESPREAD RAIN SHOWERS ACCOMPANY  
DISTURBANCES ALOFT. ADDITIONALLY, LOCALIZED LAKE-EFFECT RAIN  
SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WITH NON-VFR WILL IMPACT THE SNOWBELT  
TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY.  
 

 
   
MARINE
 
 
A CLOSED UPPER LEVEL LOW PINWHEELING OVER THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES  
TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY WILL GRADUALLY LIFT ACROSS QUEBEC THURSDAY AND  
FRIDAY. THIS WILL SUPPORT A PERIOD OF ACTIVE MARINE CONDITIONS ON  
LAKE ERIE FOR THE REST OF THE WEEK AS A SERIES OF REINFORCING  
TROUGHS ROTATE THROUGH THE REGION, KEEPING GUSTY WEST AND EVENTUALLY  
NORTHWEST WINDS IN PLACE AS WELL AS LAKE-EFFECT SHOWERS AND  
WATERSPOUTS.  
 
WSW WINDS WILL INCREASE TO 20-30 KNOTS TONIGHT BEHIND A SECONDARY  
COLD FRONT/TROUGH THAT CROSSES THIS EVENING. THESE WSW WINDS WILL  
FURTHER INCREASE TO 35 KNOTS GALES ON MUCH OF THE LAKE WEDNESDAY,  
WITH GUSTS UP TO 45 KNOTS DURING THE AFTERNOON. THIS WILL BUILD WAVE  
HEIGHTS TO 7-10 FEET ON THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN BASINS TONIGHT AND 9-  
14 FEET WEDNESDAY. UPGRADED TO GALE WARNINGS FROM THE ISLANDS TO  
RIPLEY, NY FROM 12Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH 03Z THURSDAY FOR THESE HIGH  
WINDS AND WAVES, WITH SMALL CRAFT ADVISORIES CONTINUING ON THE FAR  
WESTERN BASIN. ADDITIONALLY, THE FAVORABLE WSW DIRECTION WILL CAUSE  
WATER LEVELS TO DROP BELOW THE CRITICAL MARK OF -1 INCHES ABOVE LOW  
WATER DATUM TONIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY, SO ISSUED A LOW WATER  
ADVISORY. WINDS WILL GRADUALLY LESSEN WEDNESDAY NIGHT, BUT W WINDS  
OF 15-25 KNOTS ARE LIKELY TO CONTINUE THROUGH AT LEAST THURSDAY  
NIGHT AND POSSIBLY INTO FRIDAY WHILE TURNING MORE NW BY THEN, SO  
SMALL CRAFT HEADLINES WILL EVENTUALLY BE EXTENDED THROUGH THE END OF  
THE WEEK. HIGH PRESSURE WILL FINALLY BUILD ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES  
OVER THE WEEKEND SUPPORTING MUCH CALMER CONDITIONS.  
 
WATERSPOUTS WILL ACCOMPANY LAKE-EFFECT RAIN BANDS TONIGHT INTO  
FRIDAY, SO SPECIAL MARINE WARNINGS AND STATEMENTS WILL BE ISSUED AS  
NEEDED FOR THIS ACTIVITY.  
 

 
   
CLE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
OH...NONE.  
PA...NONE.  
MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 4 AM EDT THURSDAY FOR LEZ142-143.  
LOW WATER ADVISORY UNTIL 11 PM EDT THIS EVENING FOR LEZ142>144-  
162>164.  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 8 AM EDT THIS MORNING FOR  
LEZ144>149.  
GALE WARNING FROM 8 AM THIS MORNING TO 11 PM EDT THIS EVENING  
FOR LEZ144>149-164>169.  
 

 
 

 
 
SYNOPSIS...SULLIVAN  
NEAR TERM...JASZKA/SULLIVAN  
SHORT TERM...SULLIVAN  
LONG TERM...SULLIVAN  
AVIATION...13  
MARINE...GARUCKAS  
 
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