789  
FXUS61 KCLE 160908  
AFDCLE  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CLEVELAND OH  
408 AM EST TUE DEC 16 2025  
   
SYNOPSIS  
 
HIGH PRESSURE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE SOUTHEAST AWAY FROM THE AREA  
TODAY AND TONIGHT BEFORE A WEAK COLD FRONT MOVES ACROSS THE AREA  
ON WEDNESDAY. A STRONG LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVES ACROSS THE  
NORTHERN GREAT LAKES, BRINGING A WARM FRONT ACROSS THE AREA  
WEDNESDAY NIGHT, FOLLOWED BY A STRONG COLD FRONT THURSDAY NIGHT.  
HIGH PRESSURE BRIEFLY BUILDS IN FRIDAY NIGHT.  
 
 
   
NEAR TERM /THROUGH WEDNESDAY/  
 
A FEW LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE  
LAKESHORE COMMUNITIES OF NORTHERN ERIE COUNTY, PA EARLY THIS  
MORNING BEFORE SHOWERS DRIFT NORTHWARD ACROSS LAKE ERIE.  
OTHERWISE, QUIET WEATHER IS EXPECTED TODAY AND TONIGHT AS HIGH  
PRESSURE CONTINUES TO DRIFT FURTHER SOUTHEAST AWAY FROM US.  
SOUTH AND SOUTHWEST FLOW WILL RESULT IN GRADUALLY INCREASING  
TEMPERATURES AS MOST OF THE AREA RISES TO ABOVE FREEZING BY  
WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON WITH A FEW SPOTS POTENTIALLY GETTING UP TO  
40. A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL SWING THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING,  
WHICH WILL BE ACCOMPANIED BY RELATIVELY SHALLOW MOISTURE. A FEW  
SHOWERS MAY BE POSSIBLE WEDNESDAY MORNING INTO EARLY AFTERNOON,  
PRIMARILY IN NORTHWEST PENNSYLVANIA. ANY PRECIPITATION SHOULD  
FALL PRIMARILY AS RAIN, THOUGH IT'S POSSIBLE LIGHT FREEZING RAIN  
AND/OR SNOW COULD MIX IN AT TIMES, THOUGH THIS WOULD HAVE TO  
OCCUR BEFORE ~12Z AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT WHEN THERE ARE STILL  
SUB-FREEZING SURFACE TEMPERATURES. THE NAM HITS THE FREEZING  
RAIN POTENTIAL THE HARDEST, THOUGH THAT'S A MODEL THAT TENDS TO  
OVERFORECAST LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM /WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/  
 
STRONG LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IS STILL EXPECTED TO MOVE ACROSS THE  
NORTHERN GREAT LAKES, BRINGING IMPACTS ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY  
INCLUDING WIND, RAIN, DRASTICALLY CHANGING TEMPERATURES, AND  
LAKE EFFECT SNOW.  
 
RAIN:  
CONFIDENCE IS VERY HIGH THAT IT WILL RAIN AREAWIDE SOMETIME  
THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH THE FIRST HALF OF THURSDAY NIGHT. THE  
STRONG LOW WILL YIELD STRONG FORCING AND MOISTURE ADVECTION AS  
MOISTURE TRANSPORT WILL BE IN THE ENS/NAEFS 97.5TH PERCENTILE.  
POPS ARE IN THE 90-100% RANGE FOR ABOUT A 6-12 HOUR PERIOD AND  
FORECAST QPF IS RIGHT AROUND 0.5". THIS WON'T BE ENOUGH FOR  
FLOODING, THOUGH WILL CERTAINLY BE ENOUGH FOR VERY MUCH YARDS.  
 
WIND:  
ENSEMBLES (ESPECIALLY GEFS/ENS) CONTINUE TO SHOW GREATER THAN  
50% CHANCE OF WIND GUSTS GREATER THAN 30 KNOTS, THOUGH THE  
PROBABILITY FOR GUSTS GREATER THAN 40 KNOTS (CRITERIA FOR A WIND  
ADVISORY) HAS BEEN DIMINISHING OVER THE LAST FEW FORECAST  
CYCLES. WINDS WILL BE OUT OF THE SOUTH WITHIN THE WARM SECTOR ON  
THURSDAY, BEFORE QUICKLY BECOMING WEST THURSDAY NIGHT AND  
FRIDAY.  
 
TEMPERATURE:  
WARM AIR ADVECTION FROM AFOREMENTIONED STRONG SOUTHERLY WINDS IN  
THE WARM SECTION WILL ALLOW FOR TEMPERATURES TO RISE INTO THE  
UPPER 40S THURSDAY AFTERNOON, WHICH WILL BE THE WARMEST  
TEMPERATURES SINCE AT LEAST NOVEMBER 26. THE COMBINATION OF WARM  
TEMPERATURES, DEW POINTS AROUND 40, AND STRONG WIND GUSTS WILL  
LIKELY ELIMINATE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE SNOWPACK WE'VE WORKED  
SO HARD TO BUILD UP. WARM TEMPERATURES WILL BE SHORT-LIVED AS A  
STRONG COLD FRONT SWEEPS THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT, DROPPING  
TEMPERATURES DOWN TO AROUND 20 BY DAYBREAK FRIDAY, REMAINING IN  
THE 20S THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT.  
 
LAKE EFFECT SNOW:  
FOLLOWING THE PASSAGE OF THE COLD FRONT, COLD AIR ALOFT WILL  
BUILD IN, CHARACTERIZED BY 850MB TEMPERATURES DOWN TO AT  
LEAST -10 C. COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST CYCLE,  
TEMPERATURES ALOFT HAVE TRENDED WARMER BY ABOUT 3-5 DEGREES,  
REDUCING THE THERMODYNAMIC FAVORABILITY. ADDITIONALLY, STRONG  
FLOW ALOFT (AT LEAST DURING THE FRIDAY MORNING HOURS) WILL  
REDUCE RESIDENCE TIME OVER LAKE ERIE, AND MOISTURE DEPTH COULD  
BE LACKING. REGARDLESS, SOME ACCUMULATING SNOW IS EXPECTED,  
THOUGH THE MAGNITUDE IS IN QUESTION DUE TO SOME OF THE MENTIONED  
INHIBITING FACTORS.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH MONDAY/  
 
HIGH PRESSURE BRIEFLY BUILDS IN FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY WITH  
TEMPERATURES RISING INTO THE LOW 40S ON SATURDAY. A WEAK COLD  
FRONT SWINGS THROUGH WITH A LOW PROBABILITY OF SHOWERS SATURDAY  
NIGHT INTO SUNDAY, WITH LOW POTENTIAL OF LAKE EFFECT  
PRECIPITATION ON SUNDAY. HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN ON MONDAY.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /06Z TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/  
 
MAINLY VFR IS ONGOING AND WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE TAF PERIOD  
FOR THE MOST PART. A COUPLE OF THINGS TO MONITOR...A MID-LEVEL  
DECK IS IMPACTING ERI AND MAY IMPACT CLE AND YNG FOR A TIME  
OVERNIGHT TONIGHT INTO EARLY TUESDAY. HAVE MVFR INCLUDED AT ERI,  
WITH A 5,000 FOOT CEILING AND SCATTERED MVFR CLOUDS AT THE  
OTHER TWO FOR THE TIME BEING. OTHERWISE, A WEAK LAKE EFFECT SNOW  
BAND MAY CLIP ERI OVERNIGHT, MAINLY BETWEEN 5-9Z, BEFORE  
WEAKENING AND LIFTING BACK OFFSHORE INTO TUESDAY. CONTINUED TO  
UTILIZE A PROB30 GROUP FOR REDUCED VISIBILITY WITHIN THE LAKE  
EFFECT SNOW AT ERI, AS CONFIDENCE IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH TO GO WITH  
A TEMPO OR PREVAILING CONDITION AT THIS TIME.  
 
SOUTH-SOUTHWEST WINDS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH TUESDAY. SOMEWHAT  
LIGHTER WINDS OF 3-8KT WILL CONTINUE OVERNIGHT, PICKING BACK UP  
TO 9-17KT ON TUESDAY. WINDS WILL PEAK IN THE AFTERNOON WHEN  
SOME 25KT GUSTS ARE POSSIBLE AT TOL, FDY, AND ERI. INTRODUCED  
LOW-LEVEL WIND SHEAR LATE TUESDAY EVENING AT TOL, FDY, MFD AND  
CLE AS A 45-50KT LLJ OVERSPREADS A LOW-LEVEL INVERSION.  
 
OUTLOOK...VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED THROUGH WEDNESDAY. A STRONG  
LOW PRESSURE WILL TRACK THROUGH THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES  
THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT, PUSHING A STRONG COLD FRONT ACROSS  
THE AREA. WIDESPREAD NON-VFR WITH RAIN IS EXPECTED THURSDAY  
AFTERNOON INTO THURSDAY NIGHT. NON-VFR LIKELY LINGERS AT TIMES  
INTO FRIDAY WITH LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS, PRIMARILY ACROSS  
NORTHEAST OH AND NORTHWEST PA. WIND GUSTS OF 30-35 KNOTS ARE  
EXPECTED WITH SOUTH WINDS ON THURSDAY, BECOMING WEST THURSDAY  
NIGHT AND FRIDAY.  
 
 
   
MARINE  
 
- SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM TODAY TO 7 PM EST  
TOMORROW FROM VERMILION TO RIPLEY  
- SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 3 PM TODAY TO 12 PM EST  
TOMORROW FROM MAUMEE BAY TO VERMILION  
 
SW'ERLY TO W'ERLY WINDS AROUND 10 TO 15 KNOTS EARLY THIS MORNING  
BECOME S'ERLY TO SW'ERLY AND FRESHEN GRADUALLY TO AROUND 20 TO 30  
KNOTS BY THIS EARLY EVENING AS A RIDGE EXITS E'WARD FROM THE LAKE  
ERIE REGION AND INTERACTS WITH A DEEPENING LOW THAT SHOULD MOVE  
GENERALLY ENE'WARD FROM THE CANADIAN PRAIRIES TO SOUTHERN HUDSON  
BAY. WAVES OF MAINLY 3 FEET OR LESS ARE EXPECTED THE REST OF THIS  
MORNING. OCCASIONAL 4 FOOTERS ARE FORECAST, ESPECIALLY IN OPEN  
WATERS. DURING THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING, WAVES BUILD TO AS  
LARGE AS 4 TO 8 FEET, ESPECIALLY EAST OF THE ISLANDS.  
 
AS THE RIDGE CONTINUES TO EXIT E'WARD FROM LAKE ERIE TONIGHT  
AND THE AFOREMENTIONED LOW DEEPENS FURTHER WHILE MOVING ENE'WARD  
FROM SOUTHERN HUDSON BAY INTO QC, A WARM FRONT WILL SWEEP  
NE'WARD ACROSS LAKE ERIE AND BE ACCOMPANIED BY SW'ERLY WINDS AS  
STRONG AS 25 TO 32 KNOTS. THE POTENTIAL FOR GALE-FORCE WINDS  
STILL APPEARS TO BE LIMITED, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE PROJECTED  
PATH OF THE LOW CONTINUES TO SHIFT GENERALLY N'WARD AND FARTHER  
AWAY FROM LAKE ERIE. WAVES AS LARGE AS 5 TO 11 FEET ARE  
FORECAST, ESPECIALLY EAST OF THE ISLANDS.  
 
ON WEDNESDAY, SW'ERLY TO W'ERLY WINDS AROUND 20 TO 30 KNOTS AT  
DAYBREAK WILL EASE TO AROUND 5 TO 15 KNOTS BY EARLY EVENING AS A  
VERY WEAK COLD FRONT SWEEPS E'WARD ACROSS LAKE ERIE AND THEN THE  
AXIS OF A NARROW RIDGE MOVES FROM THE UPPER MIDWEST TOWARD WESTERN  
NY. IN RESPONSE, WINDS SHIFT TO S'ERLY TO SW'ERLY DURING THE  
AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING. WAVES AS LARGE AS 5 TO 11 FEET AT  
DAYBREAK SHOULD SUBSIDE TO 5 FEET OR LESS BY EARLY EVENING, WHEN THE  
LARGEST WAVES SHOULD BE CONFINED TO OPEN WATERS OF THE CENTRAL AND  
EASTERN BASINS.  
 
DURING WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY, THE RIDGE EXITS E'WARD, A  
WARM FRONT SWEEPS N'WARD ACROSS LAKE ERIE, AND A POTENT LOW WOBBLES  
E'WARD IN VICINITY OF THE CANADA/NORTH-CENTRAL UNITED STATES BORDER  
AND LAKE SUPERIOR. ACCORDINGLY, S'ERLY TO SW'ERLY WINDS AROUND 10 TO  
NEARLY 20 KNOTS WEDNESDAY EVENING ARE EXPECTED TO FRESHEN TO AROUND  
20 TO 30 KNOTS DURING THE PREDAWN HOURS OF THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH  
EARLY THURSDAY EVENING. ANY LINGERING 4 TO 5 FOOTERS IN OPEN U.S  
WATERS WEDNESDAY EVENING SHOULD SUBSIDE TO 3 FEET OR LESS IN ALL  
U.S. WATERS BY MIDNIGHT. HOWEVER, DURING THE PREDAWN HOURS OF  
THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH EARLY THURSDAY EVENING, WAVES SHOULD  
REBUILD TO AS LARGE AS 6 TO 12 FEET. THE LARGEST WAVES ARE EXPECTED  
EAST OF THE ISLANDS BASED ON OUR WIND AND FETCH FORECAST. ANOTHER  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY IS PROBABLE.  
 
S'ERLY TO SW'ERLY WINDS FRESHEN TO ABOUT 30 TO 40 KNOTS AND VEER TO  
W'ERLY THURSDAY NIGHT AS THE POTENT LOW WOBBLES NE'WARD TOWARD WEST-  
CENTRAL QC, DEEPENS, AND ALLOWS A STRONG COLD FRONT TO SWEEP E'WARD  
ACROSS LAKE ERIE. WAVES AS LARGE AS 7 TO 14 FEET ARE FORECAST AND A  
GALE WARNING STILL APPEARS PROBABLE. BEHIND THE FRONT, A TROUGH  
SHOULD LINGER OVER LAKE ERIE ON FRIDAY AS A NARROW RIDGE ATTEMPTS TO  
BUILD FROM THE UPPER MIDWEST. WSW'ERLY TO WNW'ERLY WINDS SHOULD EASE  
GRADUALLY TO AROUND 15 TO 30 KNOTS AND WAVES SHOULD SUBSIDE SLOWLY  
TO 8 FEET OR LESS BY EARLY FRIDAY EVENING. NOTE: A SEICHE IS LIKELY  
ON THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY, WHICH WILL PROBABLY PROMPT A LOW WATER  
ADVISORY FOR THE WESTERN BASIN.  
 
DURING FRIDAY NIGHT, THE AXIS OF THE NARROW RIDGE SHOULD TRAVERSE  
LAKE ERIE FROM WEST TO EAST. ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE RIDGE, A WARM  
FRONT SHOULD SWEEP N'WARD ACROSS LAKE ERIE OVERNIGHT. ACCORDINGLY,  
W'ERLY WINDS AROUND 15 TO 25 KNOTS SHOULD BACK TO S'ERLY TO SW'ERLY  
BY DAYBREAK SATURDAY. WAVES AS LARGE AS 4 TO 8 FEET ARE EXPECTED,  
ESPECIALLY EAST OF THE ISLANDS. ON SATURDAY, THE RIDGE SHOULD  
CONTINUE TO EXIT E'WARD AND INTERACT WITH A DEEPENING LOW THAT  
SHOULD WOBBLE E'WARD IN VICINITY OF THE MN/ON BORDER AND LAKE  
SUPERIOR. S'ERLY TO SW'ERLY WINDS SHOULD FRESHEN TO AROUND 20 TO 30  
KNOTS. WAVES AS LARGE AS 5 TO 9 FEET ARE FORECAST, ESPECIALLY EAST  
OF THE ISLANDS  
 
 
   
CLE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
OH...NONE.  
PA...NONE.  
MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 3 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO NOON EST  
WEDNESDAY FOR LEZ142>144.  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 1 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO 7 PM EST  
WEDNESDAY FOR LEZ145>149.  
 
 
 
 
 
SYNOPSIS...SAUNDERS  
NEAR TERM...SAUNDERS  
SHORT TERM...SAUNDERS  
LONG TERM...SAUNDERS  
AVIATION...SULLIVAN  
MARINE...JASZKA  
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