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FXUS63 KDDC 161102  
AFDDDC  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DODGE CITY KS  
502 AM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- ISOLATED ELEVATED FIRE WEATHER CONDITIONS POSSIBLE (20%  
CHANCE) WEST OF A ULYSSES TO HUGOTON LINE THIS AFTERNOON.  
 
- WIDESPREAD ACCUMULATING RAINFALL FROM LATE SUNDAY THROUGH  
MONDAY NIGHT. HIGHEST CHANCES (90%) AND AMOUNTS (IN EXCESS OF  
AN INCH) WILL BE ACROSS THE RED HILL REGION OF SOUTH CENTRAL  
KANSAS. LOCALIZED FLOODING OF SMALL STREAMS AND URBAN AREAS  
(STREET FLOODING) IS POSSIBLE MAINLY EAST OF HIGHWAY 183.  
 
- STRONG NORTH WINDS DEVELOPING MID WEEK AS MUCH COLDER AIR  
RETURNS TO WESTERN KANSAS. WIND CHILLS IN THE TEENS LIKELY  
(70-90%) WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY MORNING.  
 
 
   
DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 246 AM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
SHORT TERM MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH GUSTY WINDS ACROSS  
SOUTHWEST KANSAS EARLY IN THE DAY, GRADUALLY TAPERING OFF  
DURING THE MID TO LATE AFTERNOON WEST OF HIGHWAY 283 AS A  
SURFACE BOUNDARY MOVES OUT OF COLORADO AND INTO SOUTHWEST  
KANSAS. WEST OF THIS BOUNDARY, A DRY WEST WIND WILL RETURN TO  
PORTIONS OF SOUTHWEST KANSAS. THIS WILL RESULT IN AFTERNOON  
HUMIDITY VALUES DROPPING TO THE 15–20% RANGE FOR SEVERAL HOURS  
LATE TODAY ACROSS EXTREME SOUTHWEST KANSAS. AS THESE LOW  
HUMIDITY VALUES DEVELOP, WIND SPEEDS WILL DECREASE. HOWEVER,  
THERE MAY BE A 2 TO 3 HOUR PERIOD WHERE ELEVATED FIRE WEATHER  
CONDITIONS COULD OCCUR. THIS COMBINATION OF LOW HUMIDITY AND  
BREEZY CONDITIONS MAY INCREASE THE DANGER OF FIRES BECOMING  
DIFFICULT TO CONTROL.  
 
TONIGHT, A COLD FRONT WILL CROSS SOUTHWEST KANSAS. BY EARLY  
SUNDAY MORNING ALL SHORT TERM MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT THAT  
THIS SURFACE BOUNDARY WILL BE LOCATED ACROSS WEST TEXAS AND  
SOUTHERN OKLAHOMA AS A DEEPENING UPPER LOW MOVES ACROSS  
SOUTHERN ARIZONA. THIS UPPER LOW WILL CROSS NEW MEXICO ON  
SUNDAY NIGHT AND THEN LIFT NORTHEAST TOWARD SOUTHWEST KANSAS ON  
MONDAY, BASED ON THE LATEST SHORT TERM MODELS ALONG WITH THE ECMWF  
AND GEFS ENSEMBLES. AS THIS SYSTEM APPROACHES SUNDAY NIGHT,  
MOISTURE AND LIFT WILL IMPROVE AHEAD OF THE UPPER WAVE GIVEN THE  
POSITION OF THE 500 MB JET STREAK ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE UPPER  
LEVEL LOW AND 850–700 MB FORCING DEVELOPING NORTH OF THE  
NORTHWARD MOVING SURFACE BOUNDARY. AS A RESULT, WIDESPREAD  
RAINFALL ACROSS OKLAHOMA IS EXPECTED TO SPREAD INTO SOUTHWEST  
KANSAS OVERNIGHT AND PERSIST THROUGH MONDAY AS THE UPPER LOW  
TRACKS NORTHEAST ACROSS WESTERN KANSAS.  
 
AS FOR THE HEAVY RAINFALL POTENTIAL...THE LATEST ENSEMBLES  
CONTINUE TO HIGHLIGHT SOUTH CENTRAL KANSAS, PRIMARILY EAST OF  
HIGHWAY 183 AND SOUTH OF LARNED, AS THE AREA OF BEST FORCING  
(WARM AIR ADVECTION, FRONTOGENESIS, AND ISENTROPIC LIFT) ALONG  
WITH BEST MOISTURE RETURN (PWATS AND LOW LEVEL MOISTURE RETURN)  
LATE TONIGHT AND EARLY MONDAY. THESE CONDITIONS FAVOR THAT THIS  
WILL BE THE AREA OF GREATEST RISK OF RAINFALL TOTALS OF +2".  
GIVEN THIS EXPECTED RAINFALL THIS COULD PRODUCE ISOLATED MINOR  
WATER ISSUES. THOSE IN THIS AREA SHOULD PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO  
THIS UPCOMING EVENT GIVEN THE HEAVY RAINFALL POTENTIAL. WEST  
OF HIGHWAY 183, CONFIDENCE IN HIGHER RAINFALL TOTALS IS  
DECREASING. MAIN REASONS FOR DECREASING CONFIDENCE IS THAT THE  
ENSEMBLE CLUSTERS CURRENTLY HAVE RAINFALL TOTALS FROM THIS EVENT  
DIFFERING FROM 0.5 TO 1 INCH, PRIMARILY DUE TO MINOR  
DIFFERENCES IN THE TRACK OF THE UPPER LEVEL LOW AND HOW QUICKLY  
THIS UPPER LOW CROSSES WESTERN KANSAS. ADDITIONAL GIVEN THE  
LARGE AREA OF CONVECTION LATE SUNDAY SOUTH OF THE OKLAHOMA  
BORDER COULD ALSO INFLUENCE THE UPPER LOWS TRACK BY ALTERING THE  
ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURE FIELD THROUGH LATENT HEAT RELEASE. SOME  
ENSEMBLE CLUSTERS (20–30%) THIS MORNING NOW ARE NOW SHOWING  
LOWER RAINFALL TOTALS, AN INCREASE FROM THE 10–20% FROM THE  
ENSEMBLES THIS TIME YESTERDAY. WILL BE MONITORING THIS CLOSELY  
GIVEN MODELS THAT FAR OUT HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME RESOLVING THESE  
MESOSCALE FEATURES.  
 
DESPITE UNCERTAINTY IN RAINFALL AMOUNTS EARLY NEXT WEEK  
MENTIONED ABOVE, THERE IS STILL AN 80% OR GREATER CHANCE FOR  
WIDESPREAD RAINFALL ACROSS ALL OF SOUTHWEST AND SOUTH CENTRAL  
KANSAS ON SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY. ALONG WITH THIS RAINFALL,  
NOTICEABLY COOLER TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED, WITH HIGHS ONLY  
REACHING THE LOW TO MID 50S, IF THAT. THIS COOL DOWN EARLY IN  
THE WEEK WILL BE FOLLOWED BY EVEN COLDER AIR MID WEEK AS GUSTY  
NORTH WINDS DEVELOP. THESE STRONG WINDS MAY CAUSE WIND CHILLS  
TO DROP INTO THE TEENS TO LOWER 20S (30-50%) BY EARLY TUESDAY  
MORNING. WIND CHILLS IN THE TEENS ARE LIKELY (60–90%) ON  
WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY MORNINGS, ESPECIALLY WEST OF A HAYS TO  
ASHLAND LINE.  
 
FEW250  
FM171100 01007KT P6SM  
   
AVIATION /12Z TAFS THROUGH 12Z SUNDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 500 AM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
GUSTY SOUTH WINDS AT 15 TO 20 KNOTS EARLY TODAY WILL GRADUALLY  
DECREASE BACK INTO THE 10 TO 15 KNOT RANGE BETWEEN 21Z TODAY  
AND 00Z SUNDAY AS THEY GRADUALLY SHIFT TO THE SOUTHWEST. BETWEEN  
00Z AND 06Z SUNDAY A COLD FRONT WILL CROSS SOUTHWEST KANSAS AND  
AS THIS COLD FRONT PASSES THE SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE  
NORTH NORTHWEST AS AN AREA OF MID LEVEL CLOUDS/MOISTURE  
(CEILINGS > 10000FT AGL) WILL BEGIN TO SPREAD ACROSS SOUTHWEST  
KANSAS.  
 
 
   
DDC WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
NONE.  
 
 
 
 
 
DISCUSSION...BURGERT  
AVIATION...BURGERT  
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