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FXUS63 KDDC 170515  
AFDDDC  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DODGE CITY KS  
1115 PM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- MOSTLY QUIET TONIGHT, BUT LIGHT SHOWERS BY MED LODGE AM  
 
- RAIN MAKER STILL ON TRACK SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY AM  
 
- MOST SIGNIFICANT RAIN AMOUNTS IN THE E AND SE COUNTIES  
 
 
   
DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 222 PM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
THE WEATHER FOR TONIGHT WILL BE MAINLY QUIET. A WEAK FROPA IS EXPECTED  
THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS WITH THE SOUTHERLY WINDS SWITCHING N  
TO NE IN THE WAKE OF THE FRONT. SOME MOISTURE SPREADING OVER THE  
FRONT MAY RESULT IN SOME LIGHT SHOWERS NEAR MEDICINE LODGE BY THE  
MORNING. OTHERWISE, THE REST OF THE FA WILL SEE MAINLY DRY AND QUIET  
WEATHER OTHER THAN THE SHIFTING WINDS. LOWS TONIGHT RANGE FROM THE  
LOW TO MID 30S ACROSS THE NW ZONES TO UPPER 40S ACROSS THE SE ZONES,  
WHERE MORE MOISTURE/HIGHER DEWPOINTS WILL BE PRESENT TO LIMIT THE  
LOWS. OTHER THAN THE LIGHT SHOWERS ACROSS THE FAR SE CONTINUES, THE  
WEATHER FOR SUNDAY WILL BE MAINLY QUIET. WE WILL SEE COOLER HIGHS  
IN THE WAKE OF THE FRONT WITH 50S PREVAILING FOR MUCH OF THE FA.  
60S WILL BE POSSIBLE FOR THE FAR SOUTHEAST COUNTIES.  
 
ATTENTION THEN TURNS TO SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY MORNING. THE DETERMINISTIC  
MODELS, MESO MODELS, AND ENSEMBLE MODELS CONTINUE TO FAVOR THE EASTERN  
AND SOUTHEAST COUNTIES FOR SEEING THE MOST SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL AMOUNTS.  
FORECAST PWAT'S DURING THIS TIME ARE EXPECTED TO INCREASE TO OVER  
1.00". THIS IS ABOVE THE 90TH PERCENTILE, AND IS CLOSE TO THE MAX  
DEPENDING ON EXACTLY HOW HIGH THE FINAL PWAT VALUE PEAKS OUT DURING  
THE EVENT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS QPF AMOUNTS OF 1-3" STILL LOOKS VERY  
POSSIBLE FOR THE SE COUNTIES. THERE WILL BE LARGE RAIN AMOUNT GRADIENT  
NORTHWEST OF THESE ZONES, WITH VALUES DROPPING OFF RATHER QUICKLY.  
SEVERAL ENSEMBLE MEMBER RUNS SHOW THIS FROM BOTH THE EPS AND GEFS.  
BOTH EPS AND GEFS PROBABILITIES OF RAIN AMOUNTS OVER 1" (70 TO 100%  
PROBABILITIES) ARE ALSO MAXIMIZED ACROSS THE SE COUNTIES. THE EXACT  
DROP OFF GRADIENT IN RAIN AMOUNTS ACROSS THE NW COUNTIES ARE VERY  
UNCLEAR AT THIS TIME. THERE ALSO IS THE POTENTIAL FOR A FAILURE POINT  
TO HAVE A DIABATIC PV ADJUSTMENT DUE TO LATENT HEAT RELEASE OF STORMS  
TO THE S AND SE. THIS COULD THEN SHIFT THE AREA OF HEAVIER RAINFALL  
TO THE S, SE, OR E. THIS IS PURELY SPECULATIVE AT THIS TIME, MAINLY  
BASED OFF PREVIOUSLY WEATHER SYSTEMS/EXPERIENCE AND SOUTHWEST KANSAS  
GETTING SHORT CHANGED ON RAIN AMOUNTS. TIME TO TELL AS THE MODELS  
EVOLVE TO LOOK FOR ANY DEFINITIVE TRENDS OVER TIME.  
 
ANYWAY, THE MAIN SYNOPTIC LOW DRIVING ALL THIS WILL FINALLY EJECT  
OFF TO THE NE MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. A DRIER FORECAST IS EXPECTED  
THEREAFTER. SO THIS SYSTEM WILL BE OUR BEST SHOT AT MOISTURE. THE  
REST OF THE FORECAST IS LOOKING UNEVENTFUL WITH NEAR NORMAL TEMPERATURES.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z MONDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 1115 PM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
VFR FLYING CONDITIONS THIS TAF CYCLE FOR ALL TERMINALS. SURFACE  
OBSERVATIONS SHOW A WEAK COLD FRONT IS CURRENTLY MOVING THROUGH  
SOUTHWEST KS, FLIPPING WINDS FROM SOUTHERLY TO NORTHERLY. A  
BRIEF PERIOD OF NORTHERLY WINDS IN THE 10-13 KT RANGE IS  
EXPECTED THROUGH LATE MORNING/EARLY AFTERNOON IN THE WAKE OF THE  
FRONT, HOWEVER WINDS WILL BE LIGHT AND VARIABLE OTHERWISE.  
 
 
   
DDC WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
NONE.  
 
 
 
 
 
DISCUSSION...SUGDEN  
AVIATION...SPRINGER  
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