717  
FXUS63 KDVN 181745  
AFDDVN  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE QUAD CITIES IA IL  
1145 AM CST MON NOV 18 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- A STRONG STORM SYSTEM WILL AFFECT THE AREA TODAY THROUGH  
TUESDAY AM LEADING WET AND WINDY CONDITIONS WITH POSSIBLE  
STRONG STORMS THIS EVENING.  
 
- SNOW SHOWERS OR A RAIN/SNOW MIX THE MIDDLE OF THIS WEEK.  
 
- WINDY DAYS WILL BE PLENTIFUL THIS WEEK.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/  
 
ISSUED AT 308 AM CST MON NOV 18 2024  
 
AN UPPER LEVEL LOW IS EXPECTED TO MOVE NORTHEAST INTO THE AREA  
DURING THE DAY AND INTO THE EVENING, SWINGING NEGATIVELY TILTED  
AS IT MOVES OVER OUR AREA. WARM FRONTAL CONVECTION IS EXPECTED  
TO AFFECT THE AREA FIRST. THE MAIN SURFACE LOW WILL MOVE ACROSS  
EASTERN NE AS THE WARM SECTOR PULLS INTO OUR AREA IN THE  
EVENING. A TIGHT SURFACE PRESSURE GRADIENT IS EXPECTED, WITH THE  
STRONGEST WINDS BEING IN THE LATE AFTERNOON AND INTO THE  
EVENING. THIS WILL RESULT IN WINDS GUSTING TO NEAR 40 MPH.  
 
OVERALL, A COUPLE OF THINGS ARE DIFFERENT WITH THE STORM SYSTEM  
TODAY INTO TONIGHT THAN 24 HOURS AGO. FIRST, THE LOW CONTINUES  
TO BE FURTHER WEST AS IT PULLS NORTH INTO THE AREA. SECOND,  
OVERALL TREND IN SURFACE BASED CAPE IS LOWER. SO WHAT DOES THIS  
MEAN TO THE OVERALL IMPACTS? FIRST THE FURTHER WEST TRACK OF THE  
LOW HAS SHIFTED THE TRACK OF THE HEAVIER QPF WEST AS WELL.  
LOOKING AT THE PROBABILITY OF EXCEEDING 1 INCH OF QPF IN 24  
HOURS, THE HIGHER PROBABILITIES ARE NOW FURTHER WEST AS WELL.  
THESE DROP OFF SHARPLY AT THE MISSISSIPPI. LOOKING AT THOSE SAME  
PROBS BUT FOR 0.5 INCH OF QPF, THEY DO THE SAME THING,  
SUGGESTING THAT AREAS EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER MAY ACTUALLY  
BE OVER FORECAST FOR RAINFALL TOTALS. THAT SAID, THE EXPECTED  
CONVECTION WITH THE CLEAR SLOT TONIGHT WILL LIKELY GIVE AREAS  
EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER THE AMOUNT OF QPF PREDICTED.  
 
SECOND, THE DECREASE IN SBCAPE. AS IS USUALLY THE CASE WITH HSLC  
TORNADOES, SMALL CHANGES IN THE THERMAL ENVIRONMENT CAN MEAN  
GAME ON OR GAME OFF FOR THEM. LATEST RUNS SUGGEST THAT CAPE  
WOULD SUGGEST THEY ARE OFF THE TABLE AND THAT WE WOULD SEE MORE  
OF A WIND THREAT. IN FACT, THE HRRR HAS SOME IMPLICIT WIND GUSTS  
OF 50KTS ASSOCIATED WITH CONVECTION. AS SUCH, WILL BE  
HIGHLIGHTING A SEVERE THREAT LOCALLY IN PRODUCTS. AS FAR AS  
TORNADOES GO, THE CSU MACHINE LEARNING PROBS CONTINUE TO SHOWER  
THE 2% TOR RISK TO I80 AND EVEN NORTH TO THE WI STATE LINE. ANY  
SMALL CHANGE IN SBCAPE AND THIS THREAT WOULD BE BACK ON. THIS  
WILL REQUIRE INTENSE MESOANALYSIS LATER AS WE START TO SEE  
CONVECTION THIS EVENING.  
 
AS FAR AS WINDS GO, WE ARE ON THE BORDERLINE FOR NEEDING A WIND  
ADVISORY, ESPECIALLY POST FRONTAL AS LAPSE RATES STEEPEN. THE  
CAMS SHOW THIS SECOND PUSH OF NEAR WIND ADVISORY WINDS. NOT  
CONFIDENT IN THIS YET, SO WILL HOLD OFF ON ADVISORY AT THIS  
TIME.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM /TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 308 AM CST MON NOV 18 2024  
 
THIS WEEK WILL BE THE WEEK OF WIND WITH CHANCES FOR RAIN AND  
SNOW MIDWEEK. IF THERE ARE ANY LEAVES LEFT ON YOUR TREES THEY  
WILL LIKELY NOT BE THERE AFTER THIS WEEK, AND THEY MAY EVEN BE  
ADVECTED OUT OF YOUR YARD! WE SEE WAVES OR UPPER LOWS MOVING  
THROUGH THE AREA ALMOST EVERY 12 HOURS THROUGH THE REST OF THE  
WEEK. WHILE MOST OF THESE WILL BE DRY OR HAVE LITTLE QPF  
ASSOCIATED WITH THEM, THEY WILL ALL HAVE WIND. IF WE DON'T END  
UP ISSUING A WIND ADVISORY TODAY, WE PROBABLY WILL BE THE END OF  
THE WEEK.  
 
LATER THIS WEEKEND, GUIDANCE REMAINS ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH THE  
MOMENTUM FIELDS RESULTING IN A LOW CONFIDENCE FORECAST. IF YOU  
WANT PRECIP THIS WEEKEND, USE THE GFS. IF YOU WANT A DRY  
WEEKEND, USE THE ECMWF. THE ENSEMBLE SYSTEMS AREN'T MUCH BETTER  
WITH MEANS FOR QPF SHOWING THE SAME THING AS THEIR DETERMINISTIC  
MODELS.  
 
WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY, A SERIES OF CLIPPERS IN QUICK  
SUCCESSION ARE EXPECTED TO PULL THROUGH THE AREA. VERY LITTLE  
QPF IS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SYSTEM, LEADING TO LOW POP CHANCES.  
THAT SAID, PTYPES WILL BE AN ISSUE IF PRECIP WERE TO FORM. IF  
PRECIP IS FORMED BY LARGESCALE ASCENT THEN SNOW WOULD BE  
FAVORED, IF PRECIP IS FORMED BY CONVECTIVE PROCESSES, GUIDANCE  
HAS STEEP LLVL LAPSE RATES AND INSTABILITY, WE COULD SEE SOME  
GRAUPEL/RAIN. TEMPERATURES DURING THE DAY ARE WELL ABOVE  
FREEZING. SO NOT CLEAR ON PTYPE YET, THAT SAID, DO THINK IF WE  
GET SNOW, WE SEE LITTLE TO NO IMPACTS.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z TUESDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 1140 AM CST MON NOV 18 2024  
 
WIDESPREAD LIFR/IFR CONDITIONS WILL PERSIST THROUGH 10Z/19  
BEFORE CIGS SLOWLY RISE TO MVFR. LLWS WILL OCCUR ROUGHLY FROM  
00Z-10Z/19 ACROSS EASTERN IOWA AND NORTHERN ILLINOIS WITH A  
CONSIDERABLE WIND JUMP IN THE 1.2 TO 1.6 KFT AGL LAYER TO 50-55  
KNOTS. TSRA POTENTIAL IS 10% OR LESS THROUGH 09Z/19 AND WAS NOT  
INCLUDED IN THE 18Z TAFS. ANY SHRA OR ISOLATED TSRA WILL HAVE  
THE POTENTIAL TO PRODUCE GUSTS TO 45 KNOTS DUE TO THE VERY  
STRONG LOW LEVEL JET.  
 
 
   
DVN WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
IA...NONE.  
IL...NONE.  
MO...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
 
SHORT TERM...GIBBS  
LONG TERM...GIBBS  
AVIATION...08  
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