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FXUS63 KFGF 231748  
AFDFGF  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND FORKS ND  
1148 AM CST MON DEC 23 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- FOG MAY BE PREVALENT FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD THIS WEEK,  
ESPECIALLY IN NORTHEAST ND.  
 
- AS WE GRADUALLY WARM UP, NEXT SYSTEM MOVES UP FRIDAY AND GIVES  
MAJORITY LIGHT RAIN. BUT WILL NEED TO MONITOR SURFACE TEMPS  
CLOSELY.  
 
 
 
UPDATE  
ISSUED AT 1057 AM CST MON DEC 23 2024  
 
EXPANDED THE DENSE FOG ADVISORY THROUGH THE REST OF THE RED  
RIVER VALLEY WITH SEVERAL SURFACE OBSERVATIONS AND WEBCAMS  
INDICATING THE PRESENCE OF VISIBILITY QUARTER MILE OR LESS IN  
THESE AREAS.  
 
MORNING GUIDANCE SUGGESTS SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE HOUSING FOG/LOW  
STRATUS SHIFTS EAST INTO THE RED RIVER VALLEY TODAY, WHICH  
SHOULD HELP CONTINUE FOG.  
 
INTERESTING TO SEE NDAWN'S SURFACE PRESSURE READINGS ABOUT 2-3  
MB HIGHER THAN WHAT MOST OTHER GUIDANCE/OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS IS  
SHOWING IN THE DEVILS LAKE AND LOWER SOURIS RIVER BASINS. THIS  
MAY BE A TESTAMENT TO INDICATING THAT THERE IS A STRONGER 'LID'  
OUT THERE THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING ADVERTISED BY GUIDANCE.  
THIS MAY ALSO HELP EXPLAIN THE MARKEDLY COLDER AIR THAT IS  
'TRAPPED' WITHIN THE SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE.  
 
HOWEVER THERE IS STILL SOME QUESTION ON IF FOG CAN LIFT/THIN  
THIS AFTERNOON, BUT RECENT OBSERVATIONAL TRENDS ARE SUGGESTING  
THIS MAY NOT BE FAVORED. GUIDANCE OFFERS A STRONG SIGNAL OF  
WARM, MOIST ADVECTION INTO OUR AREA FROM THE WEST TONIGHT, WHICH  
WOULD CONTINUE FOG AS WELL.  
 
ELSEWHERE, FOG AND/OR MIST OR VERY LIGHT SNOW REMAINS LIABLE TO  
OCCUR. GIVEN SHORTWAVE UPPER RIDGING ALOFT, FORCING FOR  
SUSTAINED FREEZING DRIZZLE MAY BE HARD TO COME BY DESPITE LOW  
LEVEL SATURATION IN THE SUPERCOOLED REGION.  
 
ULTIMATELY, LOOKING AT A DREARY, FOGGY DAY AND NIGHT WITH SOME  
CHANCE FOR LIGHT FREEZING MIST AND/OR LIGHT SNOW.  
 
UPDATE ISSUED AT 648 AM CST MON DEC 23 2024  
 
THICKER FOG EXPANDING SOUTHWARD INTO VALLEY CITY IN THE HOUR. SO  
EXTENDED DENSE FOG ADV INTO BARNES COUNTY AND GRIGGS COUNTY AS  
BIS UPDATED FOG ADV AS WELL TO GO SOUTH. OTHERWISE CLOUDY SKY  
WITH LOW CLOUDS HAVING COVERED ALL BUT FAR SOUTHEAST FCST AREA.  
THE LIGHT SNOW IN THE FERGUS FALLS AND ELBOW LAKE AREA WITH THE  
UPPER WAVE MOVED OUT BY 1230 UTC.  
 
 
   
DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 337 AM CST MON DEC 23 2024  
   
..SYNOPSIS  
 
WE TRANSITION TO A WEST-SOUTHWEST TO MORE SOUTH-SOUTHWEST FLOW  
AT 500 MB THIS WEEK. THIS WILL LEAD TO INCREASING WARMTH THRU  
THE WEEK, PEAKING FRIDAY. SYSTEM MOVING NORTH-NORTHEAST IN THE  
FLOW WILL MOVE THROUGH GIVING A CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION, WITH  
INDICATIONS ARE TO BE RAIN. BUT WILL NEED TO MONITOR TEMP  
GUIDANCE.  
 
   
..THIS WEEK  
 
SHORT WAVE WHICH BROUGHT THE ICING ISSUES TO NORTHWEST INTO  
CENTRAL IS MOVING OUT. A BIT OF FREEZING DRIZZLE DID SNEAK INTO  
FAR SE ND MIDNIGHT-2 AM BUT HAS SINCE TURNED TO LIGHT SNOW AND  
IS MOVING OUT. LIGHT SNOW PATCHES IN WC MN AS WELL. ATMOSPHERIC  
COLUMN IS COOLING THIS MORNING AS COLDER AIR MOVES SOUTH.  
 
HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE EAST THRU SOUTHERN MANITOBA AND INTO NW  
ONTARIO BY THIS EVENING. WEAK NORTH SFC FLOW WITH THIS BUT  
SOUNDINGS SHOW A LOT OF LOW LEVEL MOISTURE. THUS TRENDED  
CLOUDIER THAN NBM AND OTHER GUIDANCE SHOWS FOR CLOUDS. I DID  
KEEP SOME CHANCE OF SCATTERED CLEARING IN NW MN TODAY MAINLY FOR  
COLLABORATION PURPOSES BUT LOOKING UPSTREAM ALL I SEE IS  
CLOUDS. FOG....SOME DENSE IS IN NORTHEAST ND AND HAS BEEN  
SPREADING SOUTH, PARTICULARLY IN AREAS FROM CAVALIER AND LANGDON  
TO DEVILS LAKE AND NEW ROCKFORD WHERE WEBCAMS AND AWOS DATA  
SHOWS DENSE FOG IS WIDESPREAD. COORD WITH BIS AND HAVE DENSE FOG  
ADV THRU NOON THIS AREA. DID KEEP MENTION OF FOG MOST OF E ND  
AND RRV THRU THE DAY....BUT AS USUAL UNCERTAINTY EXISTS IN  
THIS. COULD WELL BE SOCKED IN ALL DAY ESP IN DVL BASIN. QUESTION  
OF FREEZING DRIZZLE. DISCUSSED WITH BIS AND LOOKS LIKE SOUNDING  
WHILE SUPPORTS THE CLOUDS AND FOG WITH LIGHT WINDS IN THE  
INVERSION UP THRU 900 MB UNSURE IF THERE IS ANY LIFT IN THIS  
LAYER OR ABOVE FOR ANY DRIZZLE. SO FOR THIS REASON KEPT DRIZZLE  
OUT OF THE FCST. DID MENTION IN NPW THOUGH ICE CRYSTALS MAY  
DEPOSIT ON SURFACES CAUSING THEM TO BE SLICK.  
 
FOR THE WEEK AS WE GRADUALLY WARM UP....CLOUDS AND FOG CHANCES  
MAY WELL LINGER EVERY DAY.  
 
FOR FRIDAY...ENSEMBLES PAINT A HIGHER CHANCE FOR LIGHT RAIN TO  
MOVE NORTH INTO THE AREA DURING THE DAY. GFS AND ENSEMBLES A BIT  
HEAVIER WITH PRECIP (0.15 GEFS MEAN) VS ECMWF/CANADIAN GLOBAL.  
BUT IF LOW LEVEL TEMPS REMAIN AS THEY ARE FORECAST WILL BE WARM  
ENOUGH FOR RAIN AS TEMPS ABOVE FREEZING DURING THE MAJORITY IF  
NOT ALL OF THE PRECIP TIME. BUT THIS WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED  
IN THE COMING DAYS. ALSO ROAD TEMPS TOO THEY SHOULD RISE SOME AS  
TEMPS MODERATE BUT MAY BE CLOSE.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z TUESDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 1142 AM CST MON DEC 23 2024  
 
LIFR CONDITIONS HAVE PREVAILED THIS MORNING, AND WILL CONTINUE  
INTO THE AFTERNOON. FOG HAS FILLED IN ACROSS THE REGION,  
REDUCING VISIBILITY AT ALL TAF SITES. THIS FOG WILL LIKELY  
CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TAF PERIOD, ALBEIT VISIBILITIES  
MAY IMPROVE SLIGHTLY THIS AFTERNOON, PARTICULARLY AT KDVL. AFTER  
SUNSET, FOG IS EXPECTED TO THICKEN AGAIN. VISIBILITIES IN THE  
TAFS WERE KEPT AT 1 MILE FOR THE OVERNIGHT PERIOD AT MOST SITES.  
HOWEVER, AS CONFIDENCE INCREASES IN THE TIMING AND LOCATION OF  
FOG DEVELOPMENT THIS EVENING INTO THE OVERNIGHT, VISIBILITIES  
WILL LIKELY NEED TO BE LOWERED AT CERTAIN SITES IN THE NEXT SET  
OF TAFS. WINDS START THE PERIOD VARIABLE AND UNDER 5 KNOTS,  
TURNING SOUTHERLY TONIGHT, INCREASING UP TO 12 KNOTS.  
 
 
   
FGF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
ND...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 9 PM CST THIS EVENING FOR NDZ006>008-  
014>016-024-026>030-038-039-049-052>054.  
MN...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 9 PM CST THIS EVENING FOR MNZ001>004-  
007-029.  
 
 
 
 
 
UPDATE...CJ/RIDDLE  
DISCUSSION...RIDDLE  
AVIATION...RAFFERTY  
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