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FXUS63 KGID 291124  
AFDGID  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HASTINGS NE  
524 AM CST WED JAN 29 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- LOOKING TO BE A PRETTY NICE DAY TODAY. EXPECTING PLENTY OF  
SUN, LIGHT WINDS, ABOVE NORMAL HIGHS REACHING INTO THE 50S.  
 
- PRECIPITATION CHANCES RETURN TO THE FORECAST THIS EVENING ON  
THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT. PRIMARY PRECIPITATION TYPE STILL  
LOOKING TO BE RAIN.  
 
- FIRST ROUND OF SCATTERED SHOWERS LOOKS TO SWING NORTH THROUGH  
THE AREA MID-EVENING THROUGH TONIGHT...THOUGH COVERAGE MAY  
DIMINISH AS IT MOVES NORTH.  
 
- THERE MAY BE AN OVERALL LACK OF MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION  
DURING THE DAY ON THURSDAY...SOME CONCERN IT MAY END UP BEING  
MORE OF A DREARY, CLOUDY/DRIZZLY KIND OF DAY VS NOTABLE RAIN  
ACCUMULATION.  
 
- A STRONGER BAND OF PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP  
THURSDAY EVENING-OVERNIGHT...BUT UNCERTAINTY LINGERS WITH  
EXACT WHERE THIS TAKES PLACE. MODELS VARY FROM HEAVIER  
PRECIPITATION CLIPPING E-SE PORTIONS OF THE FORECAST  
AREA...TO OUR AREA GETTING VERY LITTLE. ALSO NOT OUT OF THE  
QUESTION IN THIS BAND THAT ENOUGH COOLING COULD OCCUR TO ALLOW  
FOR SOME SWITCH-OVER TO SNOW.  
 
- FORECAST REMAINS DRY FOR FRIDAY ON INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. HIGHS  
BY SATURDAY ARE BACK IN THE 50S-LOW 60S, BEFORE ANOTHER COLD  
FRONT MOVES IT AT SOME POINT SUNDAY, DROPPING HIGHS EARLY NEXT  
WEEK BACK INTO THE 30S.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 349 AM CST WED JAN 29 2025  
 
CURRENTLY THROUGH THE DAYTIME HOURS TODAY...  
 
ANOTHER NIGHT OF TRANQUIL CONDITIONS ACROSS THE REGION...WITH  
AGAIN LITTLE/NO CLOUD COVER AFFECTING THE LOCAL FORECAST AREA.  
LOOKING ALOFT...UPPER AIR AND SATELLITE SHOWING WEAKER,  
GENERALLY WESTERLY FLOW IN PLACE ACROSS THE AREA...DRIVEN BY A  
SHORTWAVE RIDGE AXIS EXTENDING NORTH INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS.  
THIS RIDGE AXIS SITS BETWEEN VERY BROAD TROUGHING OVER THE  
EASTERN CONUS AND AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE GRADUALLY MAKING ITS  
WAY THROUGH AZ. AT THE SURFACE, THE PATTERN ACROSS THE AREA  
REMAINS ON THE WEAKER SIDE, WITH MAINLY DRIVEN BY HIGH PRESSURE  
OFF TO OUR WEST. WINDS REMAIN WEST- NORTHWESTERLY, ON THE  
LIGHTER SIDE AROUND 5-10 MPH. TEMPS EARLY THIS MORNING ARE  
FAIRLY SIMILAR TO 24HRS AGO...WITH MOST LOCATIONS CURRENTLY IN  
THE MID-UPPER 20S.  
 
TODAY IS STILL LOOKING TO BE A PRETTY NICE DAY ACROSS THE  
REGION, WITH OVERALL NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES MADE TO THE  
FORECAST. IN THE UPPER LEVELS, MODELS REMAIN IN GOOD AGREEMENT,  
SHOWING FLOW ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS TURNING MORE  
SOUTHWESTERLY WITH TIME TODAY...AS THE FEATURE WE'LL BE TURNING  
OUR ATTENTION TO, THAT DESERT SW LOW, CONTINUES TO PUSH  
EAST...BY THIS EVENING IT LOOKS TO HAVE MADE ITS WAY INTO NM.  
EXPECTING ANOTHER DAY WITH PLENTY OF SUNSHINE, ESPECIALLY ACROSS  
THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE FORECAST AREA...MODELS SHOWING THE  
POTENTIAL FOR INCREASING UPPER LEVEL CLOUD COVER TO START  
PUSHING NORTH DURING THE DAYTIME HOURS. UNLIKE THE PAST TWO  
DAYS, NOT LOOKING AT GUSTY WINDS FOR TODAY...SURFACE HIGH  
PRESSURE CURRENTLY OFF TO OUR WEST IS EXPECTED TO MAKE A PUSH  
EAST THROUGH THE FORECAST AREA. THROUGH AT LEAST EARLY  
AFTERNOON, EXPECTING WINDS TO BE ON THE LIGHT/VARIABLE  
SIDE...TURNING MORE SOUTHERLY WITH TIME LATER TODAY AS THAT  
SURFACE HIGH SLIDES OFF TO OUR EAST...SPEEDS LOOKING TO TOP OUT  
AROUND 10 MPH. WHILE NOT QUITE AS WARM AS THE TUESDAY,  
ESPECIALLY WITH THE LACK OF MIXING POTENTIAL, TODAY IS STILL  
WELL ABOVE NORMAL (NORMAL IS MID 30S-LOW 40S)...EXPECTED TO  
REACH THE MID-50S FOR MOST OF THE AREA.  
 
TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY...  
 
AS WE GET INTO THIS EVENING AND ON THROUGH THU/THU NIGHT, MAIN  
FOCUS TURNS TO THAT DESERT SW UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE  
SYSTEM...WITH NOT A LOT OF CHANGE IN THE GENERAL TRACK.  
 
THIS EVENING/OVERNIGHT, MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW THE UPPER LOW  
MAKING A SLIGHT NORTHEASTWARD TURN, AND BY 12Z THURSDAY LOOKS  
TO BE LOCATED ROUGHLY OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE KS/CO  
BORDER. THOUGH THE CENTER OF THE LOW IS WELL SW OF THE FORECAST  
AREA, MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW A LOBE OF SHORTWAVE ENERGY/LOWER  
LEVEL MOISTURE ADVECTION SWINGING NORTHWARD INTO THE  
AREA...WHICH WILL BRING THE FIRST ROUND OF PRECIPITATION  
CHANCES. MODELS SHOW THIS WAVE OF PRECIPITATION PUSHING NORTH  
INTO THE FORECAST AREA AS A SOMEWHAT NARROW, SCATTERED SWATH OF  
SHOWERS...DIMINISHING IN COVERAGE AS IT PUSHES FURTHER NORTH.  
OVERALL BEST CHANCES SEEM TO BE FOCUSED ROUGHLY IN THE 03-09Z  
TIMEFRAME...MAINLY FOR AREAS SOUTH OF I-80. STILL EXPECTING THE  
PRIMARY PRECIPITATION TYPE TO REMAIN LIQUID...SFC TEMPS SHOULD  
MODERATE IF NOT RISE AS CLOUD COVER INCREASES AHEAD/WITH THE  
PRECIPITATION...BUT ITS NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION THAT ALONG THE  
LEADING EDGE, SFC TEMPS COULD BE COLD ENOUGH THAT SOME BRIEF  
FREEZING RAIN COULD OCCUR. IF IT DID, CURRENTLY THINK THAT IT'D  
BE SHORT-LIVED AND NOT RESULT IN ANY NOTABLE IMPACT. IT IS ALSO  
STILL NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION THAT THERE COULD BE A FEW RUMBLES  
OF THUNDER EMBEDDED IN THAT SWATH...WITH SOME MODELS CONTINUING  
TO SHOW THE POTENTIAL FOR A FEW HUNDRED J/KG OF INSTABILITY.  
 
EARLY THURSDAY AM, MODELS SHOWING PRECIP DIMINISHING AS THAT  
LOBE OF ENERGY MOVES OUT OF THE AREA...BUT ALSO DRIVEN BY A  
NOTABLE NORTHWARD PUNCH OF MID-LEVEL DRY AIR. DURING THE DAYTIME  
HOURS ON THURSDAY, BIG QUESTION IS JUST HOW MUCH PRECIPITATION  
DOES THERE END UP BEING. MODELS ARE DECENT AGREEMENT SHOWING  
THAT THERE MAY END UP NOT BEING MUCH IN THE WAY OF MEASURABLE  
PRECIPITATION...INSTEAD BEING MORE OF A LOW LEVEL  
STRATUS/DRIZZLY KIND OF DAY AS THE MAIN UPPER LOW SLIDES EAST  
ACROSS SOUTHERN KS. ANY PRECIPITATION THAT FALLS DURING THE DAY  
ON THURSDAY REMAINS LIQUID/RAIN, WITH HIGHS FOR MOST CURRENTLY  
FORECAST TO GET INTO THE 40S...THOUGH CONFIDENCE IN JUST HOW FAR  
INTO THE 40S IT GETS IS NOT OVERLY HIGH.  
 
AS WE GET INTO THURSDAY EVENING/OVERNIGHT...STILL PLENTY OF  
DETAILS TO IRON OUT...BUT THE GENERAL PICTURE CONTINUES TO  
HAVE THE MAIN UPPER LOW REMAINING ON ITS EASTWARD TREK ACROSS  
SOUTHERN KS, MOVING WELL INTO MO BY SUNRISE FRIDAY. WITH TIME,  
MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT SHOWING MID-UPPER LEVEL  
FRONTOGENETICAL FORCING/DEFORMATION ZONE STRENGTHENING ON THE  
NNW SIDE OF THE UPPER LOW...BIG QUESTION IS EXACTLY WHEN/WHERE  
THAT OCCURS. SOME MODELS SHOW IT OCCURRING SOON ENOUGH TO AT  
LEAST IMPACT ESE PORTIONS OF THE FORECAST, OTHERS (LIKE THE 00Z  
DET. ECMWF) SHOW IT LARGELY MISSING US/SETTING UP JUST TO OUR  
EAST. ENSEMBLE DATA ALSO HAS TRENDED THAT WAY, WITH THE HIGHER  
PROBABILITIES OF 0.5+" OF LIQUID ACCUMULATION SHIFTING A TOUCH  
EAST. PROBABILITIES OF 0.1+" OF 50+ PERCENT ARE STILL FAIRLY  
WIDESPREAD...THOUGH MAINLY FOCUSED ACROSS THE SOUTHERN HALF OF  
THE FORECAST AREA. SO STILL HAVE SOME UNCERTAINTIES IN THE  
FORECAST HERE...CURRENT FORECAST PRECIPITATION TOTALS HAVE AT  
LEAST A QUARTER-INCH OF LIQUID ROUGHLY ALONG/SE OF A GENOA-  
HASTINGS- PHILLIPSBURG LINE...BUT IF MODELS STICK WITH THAT MORE  
EASTWARD FOCUS, TOTALS WILL LIKELY NEED TO BE LOWERED.  
 
ALONG WITH QUESTIONS WITH THE TIMING/COVERAGE OF THAT  
STRENGTHENING OF THE DEFORMATION ZONE...THERE IS AT LEAST A  
LITTLE QUESTION WITH PRECIPTIATION TYPE. AT THIS POINT, MOST  
AGREEMENT REMAINS WITH RAIN BEING THE MAIN PRECIPITATION  
TYPE...BUT SOME MODELS (NAM SIDE OF THINGS) SUGGEST THERE IS THE  
POTENTIAL FOR ENOUGH DYNAMIC COOLING TO OCCUR TO SWITCH A  
NARROW SWATH OVER TO SNOW, WITH SOME ACCUMULATION (COULD OCCUR  
IF SNOW RATES WERE HEAVY ENOUGH OVERCOME TEMPS...AS SFC TEMPS  
STILL LOOK TO BE MARGINAL AT BEST FOR ACCUMULATION). WINDS  
THROUGH THE DAY ON THURSDAY LOOK TO BE ON THE LIGHTER SIDE...A  
FRONT MOVING THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT WILL USHER IN A PUSH OF NW  
WINDS, BUT AT THIS POINT THOSE WINDS DO NO LOOK TO BE  
SIGNIFICANT. WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MODELS TODAY TREND  
WITH PRECIPITATION, ALSO WILL HAVE MORE HI-RES DATA TO LOOK AT.  
 
AS FAR AS THE END OF PRECIPITATION...MODELS ARE IN FAIRLY GOOD  
AGREEMENT SHOWING THINGS WINDING DOWN BEFORE SUNRISE  
FRIDAY...WITH THE REST OF THE DAY FRIDAY CURRENTLY DRY.  
EXPECTING CLOUD COVER TO DIMINISH...AND WHILE IT WAS NEVER AN  
OVERLY COLD AIRMASS IN PLACE, MODELS SHOW THE POTENTIAL FOR  
HIGHS IN THE LOW 50S TO RETURN TO A GOOD CHUNK OF THE AREA  
(ESPECIALLY THE WESTERN HALF).  
 
UPCOMING WEEKEND INTO THE FIRST HALF OF THE NEW WORK WEEK...  
 
THE FORECAST FOR THIS WEEKEND AND ON INTO THE START OF THE NEW  
WORK WEEK IS STILL DRY...MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW MORE ZONAL  
UPPER LEVEL FLOW IN THE WAKE OF THURSDAY'S SYSTEM...BUT  
CONFIDENCE IN THAT ISN'T OVERLY HIGH, ESPECIALLY SUN-ON, WHERE  
THE GFS HINTS AT SOME QPF CLIPPING NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE  
AREA.  
 
HIGH TEMPS ON SATURDAY ARE FORECAST TO CLIMB WELL INTO THE 50S  
TO LOWER 60S...AND WHILE CURRENT FORECAST FOR SUNDAY IS  
SIMILAR, THERE IS UNCERTAINTY IN THAT. AN UPPER LEVEL  
DISTURBANCE SLIDING EAST NEAR THE US/CANADA BORDER IS EXPECTED  
TO PUSH A SURFACE COLD FRONT SOUTH INTO THE AREA...BUT MODELS  
DIFFER ON THE TIMING. AT THIS POINT THE FORECAST IS ON THE  
ECMWF/SLOWER SIDE OF THINGS...WITH GFS ON THE MORE  
AGGRESSIVE/QUICKER SIDE, WHICH IF THAT ENDS UP PANNING OUT WOULD  
MEAN HIGHS FOR SUNDAY ARE CURRENTLY TOO WARM. THE COOLDOWN  
CONTINUES INTO MON-TUE...WITH 30S-40S FORECAST FOR MONDAY AND  
30S FOR TUESDAY.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /12Z TAFS THROUGH 12Z THURSDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 522 AM CST WED JAN 29 2025  
 
FOR KGRI/KEAR AIRPORTS:  
 
QUIET WEATHER WITH VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH THE  
DAYTIME HOURS TODAY INTO THIS EVENING, WITH PRECIPITATION  
CHANCES MOVING IN FROM THE SOUTH AFTER MIDNIGHT. AT THIS POINT,  
SOME UNCERTAINTY REMAINS WITH THE COVERAGE OF ACTIVITY AND HOW  
FAR NORTH IT GETS BEFORE DIMINISHING...THUS THE PROB30 GROUP VS  
PREVAILING. ALSO POSSIBLE THAT MVFR CEILINGS WILL BE WORKING  
THEIR WAY IN AFTER MIDNIGHT. WINDS THROUGH THE PERIOD REMAIN  
LIGHT, PEAKING AROUND 10 MPH. DIRECTION WILL BE MORE VARIABLE  
THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON, THEN TURNING SOUTHERLY FOR THE DURATION  
OF THE PERIOD.  
 

 
   
GID WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
NE...NONE.  
KS...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...ADP  
AVIATION...ADP  
 
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