499  
FXUS63 KIWX 042043  
AFDIWX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORTHERN INDIANA  
343 PM EST TUE NOV 4 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- WINDY CONDITIONS AND MILD FOR WEDNESDAY, BUT TEMPERATURES BEGIN  
FALLING WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.  
 
- RAIN SHOWERS LIKELY LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH EARLY FRIDAY  
AFTERNOON. AN ISOLATED THUNDERSTORM POSSIBLE.  
 
- ANOTHER SYSTEM BRINGS A LIKELIHOOD OF RAIN (POSSIBLY WITH SOME SNOW  
MIXING IN) LATER SATURDAY INTO SUNDAY. CONFIDENCE IN PRECIP  
TYPES STILL REMAINS ON THE LOW SIDE GIVEN UNCERTAINTY IN  
TRACK.  
 
- CHANCES OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS INCREASE SOME TIME IN THE  
LATER SUNDAY/MONDAY TIMEFRAME.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 334 PM EST TUE NOV 4 2025  
 
DEPARTING LOW LEVEL RIDGE AXIS WILL ALLOW FOR WARM/MOIST  
ADVECTION FROM SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST THIS EVENING. A BROAD, LOW  
AMPLITUDE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS WILL  
AUGMENT THIS ADVECTION AS LOW LEVEL FLOW STRENGTHENS THIS  
EVENING FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES.  
THE STRONGEST LOW LEVEL BAROCLINICITY AND ISENTROPIC UPGLIDE  
AND ASSOCIATED PRECIP POTENTIAL SHOULD REMAIN WELL NORTH OF THE  
LOCAL AREA TONIGHT ACROSS THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES REGION. THIS  
ADVECTIVE REGIME SHOULD INDUCE BROAD, STRONG SFC PRESSURE FALLS  
ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES WHICH SHOULD HELP TO AUGMENT SOUTHERLY  
LOW LEVEL FLOW ACROSS THE LOCAL AREA. AFTER A POSSIBLE LULL IN  
WINDS IN EARLY EVENING, AN UPTICK IN SPEEDS IN SFC WIND GUSTS IS  
EXPECTED LATE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT THAT SHOULD RESULT IN NON-  
TYPICAL DIURNAL TREND OF STEADY/SLOWLY RISING TEMPERATURES  
DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS.  
 
LOW LEVEL FRONTAL ZONE WILL BEGIN TO SAG SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE UPPER  
MIDWEST/UPPER MS VALLEY WITH SOME LOW/MID LEVEL FGEN FORCING  
INCREASING. HOWEVER, OVERALL LOW LEVEL MOISTURE QUALITY APPEARS TO  
BE LIMITED LEADING TO LOW CONFIDENCE IN ANY MEASURABLE PRECIP WITH  
FRONTAL PASSAGE. ANY LOW END CHANCE OF MEASURABLE RAIN STILL  
APPEARS TO BE ACROSS THE FAR NORTH/NORTHEAST WHICH SHOULD BE IN  
CLOSER PROXIMITY TO GREATEST SYNOPTIC FORCING/UPPER JET  
DYNAMICS.  
 
THE BIG STORY ON WEDNESDAY WILL BE THE WINDS, AS PRE-FRONTAL  
SOUTHWESTERLIES WILL INCREASE EARLY IN THE DAY FOLLOWED BY STRONG  
WEST/NORTHWESTERLIES BEHIND THE FRONT AS MIXED LAYER DEEPENS. A  
MODEST ISALLOBARIC CONTRIBUTION IS ALSO EXPECTED DURING THE  
MIDDAY PERIOD WITH CYCLOGENESIS EXPECTED TO BE ONGOING AS THE  
SFC REFLECTION TRACKS ACROSS THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES. GUSTS TO  
AROUND 35 MPH APPEAR TO BE POSSIBLE FOR A TIME, ESPECIALLY LATE  
MORNING INTO MID AFTERNOON. HIGHS LIKELY TO BE REACHED MIDDAY  
FOR MANY AREAS ON WEDNESDAY AS STRENGTH OF COLD ADVECTION SHOULD  
RESULT IN MORE OF A STEADY/SLOWLY FALLING TEMPERATURE TREND IN  
THE AFTERNOON.  
 
WINDS TO RELAX WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY AS NEXT SFC  
ANTICYCLONE OVERSPREADS THE AREA IN THIS PROGRESSIVE PATTERN.  
THURSDAY COULD FEATURE SOMEWHAT SIMILAR CONDITIONS AS TODAY WITH  
A VERY DRY LOW LEVEL AIR MASS IN PLACE AND AFTERNOON DEW POINTS  
BACK INTO THE 20S AND LOW 30S. HOWEVER, LIGHTER WINDS ON  
THURSDAY AND COOLER LOW LEVEL THERMAL PROFILES IN COMPARISON TO  
TODAY SHOULD LIMIT FIRE WEATHER CONCERNS.  
 
THE END OF THE WORK WEEK STILL FEATURES A MUCH GREATER CHANCE OF  
RAIN AS A MORE SIGNIFICANT SHORT WAVE BREAKS OUT OF THE LARGE SCALE  
EASTERN PACIFIC TROUGH. THIS SHORT WAVE WILL AT LEAST HAVE MORE OF  
AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A PERIOD OF GOOD MOISTURE TRANSPORT NORTHWARD  
INTO THE AREA (ALBEIT SOMEWHAT BRIEF). FORECAST SOUNDINGS STILL  
SUGGEST SOME WEAK SFC BASED INSTABILITY ALSO POSSIBLE FRIDAY MORNING  
INTO MID AFTERNOON AND HAVE MAINTAINED SLIGHT CHANCE OF THUNDER POPS.  
 
THE PASSAGE OF THE FRIDAY SHORT WAVE SHOULD EFFECTIVELY CARVE OUT A  
MORE SUPPRESSED TRACK FOR THE PRIMARY UPPER LEVEL EASTERN PACIFIC  
WAVE ON FRIDAY INTO THE OHIO RIVER VALLEY. GUIDANCE CONSENSUS  
CONTINUES TO FEATURE A STRONGER THERMAL RIBBON WITH THIS WAVE, AND  
EVEN THE POTENTIAL OF SOME SNOW MIXING IN ON BACKSIDE OF THIS  
SYSTEM. HOWEVER, LINGERING UNCERTAINTIES WITH TRACK AND MARGINAL LOW  
LEVEL WET BULBS LEAD TO CONTINUED LOW CONFIDENCE IN PTYPE DETAILS.  
 
CONFIDENCE REMAINS HIGHER IN A TREND TO MUCH COLDER CONDITIONS 2ND  
HALF OF THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK, AND BASED ON MAGNITUDE OF  
LOW LEVEL THERMAL PROGS, LAKE EFFECT RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS STILL APPEAR  
QUITE POSSIBLE. HOWEVER, AT THIS FORECAST DISTANCE, A GOOD DEAL OF  
UNCERTAINTY REMAINS IN FETCH DETAILS AND LONGEVITY OF THIS SETUP SO  
HAVE NOT DEVIATED FROM CHANCE SNOW SHOWER MENTION SUNDAY  
NIGHT/MONDAY.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z WEDNESDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1248 PM EST TUE NOV 4 2025  
 
VFR CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE THIS PERIOD, WITH WINDY CONDITIONS  
AND LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR AS THE PRIMARY AVIATION WEATHER  
CONCERNS. LOW LEVEL RIDGE AXIS WILL CONTINUE TO SHIFT OFF TO THE  
EAST THIS AFTERNOON ALLOWING FOR RETURN SOUTHERLY FLOW. A BROAD  
LOW AMPLITUDE UPPER TROUGH SWINGING ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS  
INTO THIS EVENING WILL INDUCE STRENGTHENING WARM/MOIST ADVECTION  
TONIGHT. STRONG SFC PRESSURE FALLS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP  
ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES REGION IN RESPONSE, WHICH SHOULD ENHANCE  
SOUTHERLY LOW LEVEL FLOW. PREVIOUS TAF MENTION OF LLWS MENTION  
HAS BEEN MAINTAINED WITH THE 18Z TAFS, WITH SOME SFC GUSTS TO  
AROUND 20 KNOTS POSSIBLE LATE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT AS THE LOW  
LEVEL JET STRENGTHENS. A STRONG PRE-FRONTAL PRESSURE GRADIENT  
FOLLOWED BY DEEPENING MIXED LAYER IN POST-FRONTAL COLD ADVECTION  
WILL SET THE STAGE FOR WINDY CONDITIONS WEDNESDAY, WITH PEAK  
GUSTS EXPECTED FROM THE WEST-NORTHEAST MIDDAY INTO MID AFTERNOON  
TO AROUND 30-35 KNOTS.  
 

 
   
IWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
IN...NONE.  
OH...NONE.  
MI...NONE.  
MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 8 PM THIS EVENING TO 4 AM EST  
THURSDAY FOR LMZ043-046.  
 

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...MARSILI  
AVIATION...MARSILI  
 
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