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FXUS61 KOKX 160543  
AFDOKX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY  
1243 AM EST SUN FEB 16 2025  
   
SYNOPSIS  
 
A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IMPACTS THE LOCAL AREA AS IT PASSES TO THE  
NORTHWEST ON SUNDAY AND THEN TO THE NORTH SUNDAY NIGHT. A  
STRONG COLD FRONT WILL PASS THROUGH BEHIND THE LOW LATE SUNDAY  
AFTERNOON INTO THE EARLY EVENING. LOW PRESSURE SPINS OVER THE  
CANADIAN MARITIMES ON MONDAY. STRONG HIGH PRESSURE DIVES SOUTH  
INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY AND  
GRADUALLY NOSES IN. LOW PRESSURE THEN EMERGES OUT OFF  
SOUTHEASTERN US COAST. THIS LOW STRENGTHENS AS IT LIFTS  
NORTHEAST ALONG AND JUST OFF THE MID ATLANTIC COAST THURSDAY.  
THE LOW PULLS AWAY THURSDAY NIGHT WITH HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING  
INTO NEXT WEEKEND.  
 
 
   
NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM THIS MORNING/  
 
MELTING LAYER AS SEEN KOKX RADAR IS CURRENTLY OVER THE NORTHERN  
PORTIONS OF THE LOWER HUDSON VALLEY, HEADING EAST OVER THE  
OVER TOWARD NEW HAVEN COUNTY IN CT, THEN SOUTHEAST ALONG THE NEW  
HAVEN/MIDDLESEX BORDER, AND JUST EAST OF THE TWIN FORKS. SNOW  
SHOULD CONTINUE NORTH AND EAST OF THIS LINE AS IT CONTINUES  
MOVING NORTHEAST. SOUTHWEST OF THIS LINE, WHERE SURFACE  
TEMPERATURES HAVE RISEN TO ABOVE FREEZING, PRECIPITATION WILL BE  
PLAIN RAIN. SOUTHWEST OF THIS LINE, WHERE TEMPERATURES ARE AT OR  
BELOW FREEZING, ANY COMBINATION OF A WINTRY MIX OF SNOW, SLEET,  
AND FREEZING RAIN IS EXPECTED. SOME OF THE MORE SOUTHERN SPOTS  
WHERE THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT (PORTIONS OF  
NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY, SOUTHER PORTIONS OF THE LOWER HUDSON  
VALLEY, AND COASTAL CONNECTICUT) ARE SEEING TEMPERATURES RISE  
ABOVE FREEZING, HOWEVER ENOUGH OBSERVATIONS WERE AT OR SLIGHTLY  
BELOW FREEZING TO KEEP THE ADVISORY IN EFFECT. INCREASED ICE  
AMOUNTS ACROSS THE ADVISORY AREAS AS THESE AREAS ARE WELL INTO  
THE 20S AND A NORTHERLY FLOW WILL CONTINUE TO ADVECT COLDER AIR  
(OR AT LEAST KEEP TEMPERATURES STEADY DESPITE THE THERMODYNAMIC  
WARMING EFFECT OF THE ENVIRONMENT ASSOCIATED WITH FREEZING  
PRECIPITATION) INTO THOSE AREAS FOR QUITE A FEW HOURS. UP TO  
1/4" OF ICE IS POSSIBLE, AND POTENTIALLY MORE. THIS COULD LEAD  
TO SOME ISOLATED POWER OUTAGES IF THAT AMOUNT OF ICE IS  
REALIZED. CURRENT RADAR SHOWS LIGHT TO MODERATE PRECIPITATION  
DEVELOPING OVER NORTHERN ORANGE COUNTY, SO THIS WOULD BE THE  
LOCATION TO EXPECT THE HIGHER AMOUNTS OF ICE.  
 
A DEEPENING SURFACE LOW WILL CONTINUE TO IMPACT THE LOCAL AREA  
AS IT APPROACHES THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES THROUGH SUNDAY  
MORNING, SENDING A WARM FRONT TOWARDS THE AREA.  
 
STILL LOOKING AT SNOWFALL TOTALS ACROSS NYC AND LI BETWEEN 1-2  
INCHES BEFORE A CHANGEOVER TO RAIN THIS EVENING. TO THE NORTH  
AND WEST WHERE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORIES REMAIN IN EFFECT,  
EXPECT ANYWHERE FROM 2 TO 4 INCHES. THE UPPER END OF THESE  
RANGES WILL BE CLOSER TO I-84 AND SOME OF THE HIGHER TERRAIN  
AREAS WELL INLAND.  
 
HIGH TEMPERATURES IN UPPER 20S TO LOW TO MID 30S WILL CONTINUE  
TO GRADUALLY WARM UP THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. BY DAYBREAK,  
AREAS WELL INLAND WILL BE IN THE LOWER TO MID 30S, WITH LI AND  
THE NYC AROUND 40.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM /6 AM THIS MORNING THROUGH 6 PM MONDAY/  
 
LOW PRESSURE IS FORECAST TO BE WEST OF THE AREA SUNDAY MORNING  
WITH THE ASSOCIATED WARM FRONT NEAR OR JUST SOUTH OF LI. THE  
FIRST SHOT OF WARM ADVECTION PRECIPITATION WILL LIFT TO THE  
NORTH AND EAST WITH A SECONDARY SURGE OF WARM ADVECTION AS A  
SOUTHERLY LLJ APPROACHES FROM THE SOUTH, STRONGEST TO THE SOUTH  
AND EAST OF LI, WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR 75 TO 85 KT JUST A FEW  
THOUSAND FEET. AIRMASS WILL BE STRONGLY INVERTED AND ANY MIXING  
OF HIGHER WINDS FROM ALOFT WILL LIKELY NOT TO HAPPEN UNTIL LATE  
IN THE AFTERNOON AS THE COLD FRONT APPROACHES FROM THE WEST AND  
THE INVERSION ERODES. WITH THE WARM FRONT STILL IN CLOSE  
PROXIMITY, STRONG THERMAL FORCING BOTH IN THE WARM SECTOR AND TO  
THE NORTH SHOULD ALLOW FOR MORE A CONVECTIVE TYPE OF RAINFALL.  
RAINFALL DURING THIS TIME WILL BE MODERATE TO OCCASIONALLY  
HEAVY WITH THE BEST THERMAL FORCING ACROSS EASTERN LI AND SE CT.  
BY THE TIME THE COLD FRONT PASSES LATE AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING,  
MUCH OF THE AREA IS FORECAST TO HAVE RECEIVED 1.5 TO 2 INCHES  
OF LIQUID EQUIVALENT, WITH THE HIGHEST AMOUNTS ACROSS LI AND CT.  
 
A HIGH WIND WATCH CONTINUES FOR THE ENTIRE AREA SUNDAY NIGHT  
INTO MONDAY. JUST AHEAD AND BEHIND THE COLD FRONT, THERE IS THE  
POTENTIAL FOR WIND GUSTS OF 40-50KT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE  
PRESSURE RISES IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE COLD FRONT. WINDS AT THE  
TOP OF MIXED LAYER WILL BE AROUND 50 KT, AND ON AVERAGE ABOUT 40  
KT THROUGH THE LAYER. THUS, HIGH WINDS ARE POSSIBLE THROUGH THE  
OVERNIGHT, AIDED BY STRONG COLD ADVECTION AND CYCLONIC FLOW.  
TEMPERATURES WILL FALL BACK BELOW FREEZING AND INTO THE 20S BY  
DAYBREAK MONDAY.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM /MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY/  
 
* WINDY WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR STRONG WINDS ON MONDAY.  
 
* THE POTENTIAL REMAINS AND HAS INCREASED SOME FOR A SIGNIFICANT /  
MAJOR WINTER STORM IN THE WED NIGHT - THURSDAY NIGHT TIME FRAME.  
 
WINDY CONDITIONS CONTINUE AS A STRONG PRESSURE GRADIENT REMAINS OVER  
THE AREA DUE THE DEPARTING LOW THAT WILL SPIN OVER THE CANADIAN  
MARITIMES ON MONDAY AND STRONG ARCTIC HIGH PRESSURE (1050-1054 MB)  
THAT BUILDS IN FROM SOUTHERN CANADA. W WINDS OF UP TO 25 MPH ARE  
FORECAST, WITH GUSTS AROUND 40 MPH IN THE MORNING. WINDS DIMINISH  
LATE IN THE MORNING INTO THE AFTERNOON AS THE PRESSURE GRADIENT  
RELAXES A BIT.  
 
THE HIGH CONTINUES TO NOSE IN FROM THE NORTH AND WEST TUESDAY AND  
WEDNESDAY, KEEPING THE REGION DRY. AS THE ARCTIC AIR MOVES SOUTH, A  
BAROCLINIC ZONE SETS UP OVER THE SOUTHERN STATES, ALLOWING LOW  
PRESSURE TO BEGIN TO TAKE SHAPE. THIS LOW THEN TREKS EAST ALONG THE  
GULF STATES, AND EJECTS OFF THE SOUTHEAST US COAST WEDNESDAY NIGHT,  
THEN TRACKS NORTHEAST INTO THURSDAY, PULLING AWAY FROM THE AREA  
THURSDAY NIGHT.  
 
WITH THE CURRENT DETERMINISTIC MODEL SUITE, MOST MODELS TRACK THE LOW  
AROUND OR JUST EAST OF THE 40/70 BENCHMARK, A FAVORABLE TRACK FOR AN  
ALL SNOW EVENT. CURRENT NBM FORECAST ALSO SHOWS AN ALL SNOW  
FORECAST, LEADING TO HIGHER CONFIDENCE IN AN ALL SNOW EVENT. DESPITE  
CONFIDENCE INCREASING IN AN ALL SNOW EVENT, THE EXACT TRACK OF THE  
LOW STILL REMAINS IN QUESTION. IF THE LOW PUSHES TO FAR EAST, IT  
WILL TAKE THE MAJORITY OF THE PRECIPITATION WITH IT, AND THUS, SNOW  
WILL BE MUCH LESS AND LIMITED TO THE COAST.  
 
AS FOR ENSEMBLES, CURRENT ECMWF ENSEMBLE GIVE COASTAL AREAS A 30-40%  
CHANCE OF 24 TOTAL PRECIP OF GREAT THAN HALF AN INCH LIQUID  
EQUIVALENT, WHILE THE SAME METRIC IS ONLY 10-20% WITH THE GFS  
ENSEMBLE. CURRENT NBM IS CLOSER TO THE ECMWF ENSEMBLE. THE FINER  
DETAILS WILL BE IRONED OUT AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE EVENT, AND MORE  
OF THE HIGHER RESOLUTION MODELS COME INTO PLAY.  
 
WHILE IT IS TOO EARLY TO GIVE SNOWFALL FORECAST FOR THIS EVENT, GEFS  
PLUMES SHOW A MEAN OF ABOUT 2.5" FOR KISP, WHILE THE GFS  
DETERMINISTIC IS ABOUT 9.0" FOR THE EVENT, WITH A FAIR NUMBER OF  
MEMBERS BELOW THE 2.5" MEAN. THIS UNDERSCORES THE UNCERTAINTY WITH  
THIS UPCOMING EVENT.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /06Z SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/  
 
LOW PRESSURE AND A WARM FRONT WILL APPROACH TONIGHT. THE LOW  
WILL PASS WEST AND NORTH ON SUNDAY, WITH THE WARM FRONT LIFTING  
THROUGH MOST TERMINALS MID TO LATE AFTERNOON. A STRONG COLD  
FRONTAL PASSAGE WILL TAKE PLACE EARLY IN THE EVENING.  
 
WIDESPREAD IFR/LIFR COND IN RAIN AT MOST TERMINALS (EXCEPT  
MAINLY FREEZING RAIN AT KSWF TIL NOON) SHOULD CONTINUE, AND VSBY  
COULD LOWER TO 1/2SM FOR A FEW HOURS THIS AFTERNOON BEFORE WARM  
FROPA.  
 
E WINDS HAVE INCREASED TO 10-15 AT KLGA AND ALONG THE CT COAST,  
WITH SOME GUSTS UP TO 20 KT ALONG THE CT COAST AS WELL.  
ELSEWHERE E-NE WINDS 10 KT OR LESS SHOULD VEER MORE TO THE E AT  
MOST SITES BY AFTERNOON. WINDS BECOME S-SW AND GUSTY AFTER WARM  
FROPA, THEN SHIFT W WITH COLD FROPA EARLY THIS EVENING AND  
INCREASE TO 20-30 KT WITH GUSTS 35-45 KT FOR A TIME.  
 
A RUMBLE OF THUNDER MAY BE POSSIBLE AT THE NYC METROS AND KISP  
THIS AFTERNOON.  
 
...NY METRO (KEWR/KLGA/KJFK/KTEB) TAF UNCERTAINTY...  
 
NO UNSCHEDULED AMD EXPECTED.  
   
OUTLOOK FOR 06Z MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY  
 
LATE SUNDAY NIGHT: VFR. W WINDS G35-45KT.  
 
MONDAY: VFR. W WINDS G35-40KT, DIMINISHING AT NIGHT.  
 
TUESDAY: VFR. W WINDS G25 KT.  
 
WEDNESDAY: VFR.  
 
WEDNESDAY NIGHT: BECOMING IFR IN SNOW.  
 
THURSDAY: IFR/LIFR IN SNOW. NE WINDS G20KT, BECOMING NW G25KT AT  
NIGHT.  
 
DETAILED INFORMATION, INCLUDING HOURLY TAF WIND COMPONENT  
FORECASTS, CAN BE FOUND AT: HTTPS:/WWW.WEATHER.GOV/ZNY/N90  
 
 
   
MARINE  
 
HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE WATERS WEAKENS AND THEN DISSIPATES TO  
THE EAST THROUGH TONIGHT. A STORM SYSTEM WILL IMPACT THE AREA  
WITH A STRENGTHENING SOUTHERLY FLOW ON SUNDAY, FOLLOWED BY  
STRONG WEST WINDS SUNDAY NIGHT. A GALE WARNING HAS BEEN POSTED  
FOR ALL WATERS SUNDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH THE FIRST HALF OF MONDAY  
NIGHT WITH A STORM WATCH ISSUED FOR THE EASTERN OCEAN ZONE  
SUNDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH MONDAY AFTERNOON. SEAS WILL BUILD TO 5  
TO 8 FT ON LI SOUND AND 10 TO 18 FT ON THE OCEAN WATERS  
OVERNIGHT SUNDAY.  
 
GALE CONDITIONS ACROSS ALL WATERS ON MONDAY WITH POTENTIAL STORM  
FORCE GUSTS FOR THE EASTERN OCEAN ZONE, IN THE WAKE OF A STORM  
MOVING THROUGH THE CANADIAN MARITIMES. HIGH OCEAN SEAS OF 7 TO 16 FT  
MONDAY MORNING, DIMINISH THROUGH THE DAY, BUT REMAIN ABOVE SCA  
CONDITIONS ACROSS ALL WATERS THROUGH TUESDAY. NON OCEAN WATERS DROP  
BELOW 25 KT LATE IN THE DAY/TUESDAY EVENING, WHILE OCEAN WATER GUSTS  
WILL DIMINISH FROM WEST TO EAST TUESDAY NIGHT.  
 
SUB-SCA CONDITIONS EXPECTED ACROSS ALL WATERS WEDNESDAY AND MUCH OF  
THURSDAY. WINDS INCREASE A COASTAL LOW IMPACTS THE WATERS LATE IN  
THE DAY, WITH SCA CONDITIONS OVER OCEANS WATERS FIRST LATE THURSDAY,  
THEN ACROSS ALL WATERS THURSDAY NIGHT.  
 
 
   
HYDROLOGY  
 
NO HYDROLOGIC IMPACTS ARE ANTICIPATED FROM THIS WEEKEND'S STORM  
SYSTEM DESPITE THE FACT THAT 1.5 TO 2 INCHES OF LIQUID IS EXPECTED  
ACROSS THE AREA. THEREAFTER NO HYDROLOGIC IMPACTS ARE ANTICIPATED  
THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST PERIOD.  
 
 
   
OKX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
CT...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 7 AM EST THIS MORNING FOR  
CTZ005>008.  
HIGH WIND WATCH FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH MONDAY AFTERNOON FOR  
CTZ005>012.  
WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 1 AM EST EARLY THIS MORNING FOR  
CTZ009>012.  
NY...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 7 AM EST THIS MORNING FOR NYZ067-  
068.  
HIGH WIND WATCH FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH MONDAY AFTERNOON FOR  
NYZ067>075-078>081-176>179.  
WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 1 AM EST EARLY THIS MORNING FOR  
NYZ069>071.  
NJ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 7 AM EST THIS MORNING FOR NJZ002.  
HIGH WIND WATCH FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH MONDAY AFTERNOON FOR  
NJZ002-004-006-103>108.  
WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 1 AM EST EARLY THIS MORNING FOR  
NJZ004-103>105.  
MARINE...GALE WARNING FROM 4 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO MIDNIGHT EST MONDAY  
NIGHT FOR ANZ331-332-335-338-340-345.  
GALE WARNING FROM 11 AM THIS MORNING TO 6 PM EST THIS EVENING  
FOR ANZ350.  
STORM WATCH FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH MONDAY AFTERNOON FOR  
ANZ350.  
GALE WARNING FROM 11 AM THIS MORNING TO MIDNIGHT EST MONDAY  
NIGHT FOR ANZ353-355.  
 
 
 
 
 
SYNOPSIS...  
NEAR TERM...JP  
SHORT TERM...  
LONG TERM...JP  
AVIATION...BG  
MARINE...  
HYDROLOGY...  
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