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FXUS61 KOKX 081416  
AFDOKX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY  
1016 AM EDT THU MAY 8 2025  
   
SYNOPSIS
 
 
A COLD FRONT WILL SLOWLY SAG ACROSS THE AREA TODAY, STALLING NEAR OF  
JUST NORTHWEST OF NEW YORK CITY BY TONIGHT. THIS WILL SET THE STAGE  
FOR A SOAKING RAINFALL LATE TODAY INTO EARLY FRIDAY NIGHT. A FEW  
SHOWERS MAY LINGER INTO EARLY SATURDAY. A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL  
CROSS THE REGION SATURDAY NIGHT, WITH HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN  
FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK. ANOTHER LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM APPROACHES FOR  
THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK.  
 

 
   
NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/
 
 
THE GRIDDED FCST IS ON TRACK ATTM SO NO CHANGES MADE. WILL  
INCLUDE A MENTION OF ISOLD FLASH FLOODING FOR THE NWRN THIRD OF  
THE CWA FOR THIS AFTN AND EVE DUE TO THE POTENTIAL FOR SLOW  
MOVING SHWRS AND TSTMS.  
 
A WEAK COLD FRONT SLOWS TO OUR NORTHWEST ON ITS APPROACH,  
POSSIBLY STALLING TO THE NORTH OF NYC TODAY. THIS FRONT HAS SOME  
MOISTURE TO WORK WITH. WE'RE EXPECTING DRY WEATHER TO PERSIST  
THROUGH THE FIRST HALF OF THE DAY, THOUGH A FEW SHOWERS COULD  
ARRIVE LATE THIS AFTERNOON IN NE NJ, LOWER HUDSON VALLEY, AND  
EVEN NYC. THIS WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF A PROLONGED RAIN EVENT,  
WHICH IS DISCUSSED MORE FULLY BELOW IN THE SHORT TERM.  
 
PRESSURE GRADIENT REMAINS WEAK TODAY WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR COASTAL  
SEA BREEZES THIS AFTERNOON. HIGHS WILL BE IN THE LOW TO MID-70S.  
 

 
   
SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH SATURDAY/
 
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
* A STALLED FRONT AND LOW PRESSURE TO BRING PROLONGED PERIOD OF  
RAINFALL THURSDAY AFTERNOON INTO FRIDAY NIGHT.  
 
* PERIODS OF MODERATE TO LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL POSSIBLE.  
 
* 1-2" EXPECTED WITH LOCALLY HIGHER TOTALS POSSIBLE.  
 
* DRY SATURDAY.  
 
A COLD FRONT WILL SLOW ON ITS APPROACH TODAY TO OUR NORTHWEST. IT  
WILL LIKELY STALL THIS EVENING INTO TONIGHT, BUT MODEL GUIDANCE  
STILL VARIES ON THE LOCATION OF THE FRONT STALLING. IT WILL REMAIN  
STALLED OVER OR NEARBY INTO FRIDAY. AT THE SAME TIME, A MID-ATLANTIC  
LOW WILL PASS ALONG THE FRONT DURING THIS TIME FRAME. AN UPPER-LEVEL  
TROUGH WILL ALSO DIG INTO NORTHERN NEW YORK THURSDAY, BECOMING  
CLOSED AND MOVING NEARBY THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY. THE UPPER-LOW  
AND SURFACE LOW WILL THEN BECOME STACKED ON FRIDAY AS IT PHASES WITH  
A SOUTHERN JET STREAM, THEN EXIT NORTHEAST LATE FRIDAY NIGHT INTO  
EARLY SATURDAY MORNING.  
 
LOW PRESSURE ALONG THE STALLED FRONT WILL LEAD TO PERIODS OF SHOWERS  
THURSDAY AFTERNOON INTO FRIDAY, WITH SHOWERS TAPERING WEST TO EAST  
LATE FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY MORNING AS THE SYSTEM EXITS.  
THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE POSSIBLE LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING  
PRIMARILY NORTH AND WEST OF NYC CLOSER TO THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY.  
INSTABILITY WILL BE MARGINAL TODAY, BUT NO THUNDERSTORMS EXPECTED  
INTO FRIDAY.  
 
00Z GUIDANCE VARY WITH QPF AMOUNTS DUE TO DISAGREEMENT AMONG THE  
MODELS ON WHERE THE STALLED FRONT WILL BE LOCATED, AND WHEN. PERIODS  
OF MODERATE TO LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL ARE POSSIBLE GIVEN LIFT FROM  
THE STALLED FRONT, MARGINAL INSTABILITY, POSITIVE VORTICITY  
ADVECTION FROM THE NEARBY CLOSED UPPER-LOW, SOME OROGRAPHIC  
ENHANCEMENT OF PRECIP WITH EASTERLY FLOW THURSDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY  
FRIDAY, AND WARM AIR ADVECTION AT 850MB FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND  
EVENING. PWATS SHOULD PEAK AROUND 1.10 TO 1.50" WHICH IS RIGHT  
AROUND OR ABOVE THE 90TH PERCENTILE PER SPC'S SOUNDING CLIMATOLOGY  
PAGE.  
 
CURRENT FORECASTED QPF IS BETWEEN 1-2" THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH  
FRIDAY NIGHT. ITS QUITE POSSIBLE SOME AREAS COULD RECEIVE A FEW  
INCHES MORE THAN THIS, DEPENDING ON WHERE THE HEAVIEST  
SHOWERS/THUNDERSTORMS SET UP ALONG THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY. MOST OF THE  
00Z CAMS ARE HINTING AT SOME BANDED HIGHER AMOUNTS LATE THURSDAY  
INTO THURSDAY NIGHT NORTH AND WEST OF NYC. HOWEVER, SOME OF THE 00Z  
CAMS (HRRR/MPAS) APPEAR TO BRING THIS HIGHER BANDED QPF INTO NE NJ,  
NYC AND SW CT DUE TO A MORE SOUTHERLY PLACEMENT OF THE STALLED  
FRONT. FOLLOWING TONIGHT, RAINFALL WILL BE WIDESPREAD INTO EARLY  
FRIDAY NIGHT BEFORE RAINFALL TAPERS WITH THE EXITING LOW INTO EARLY  
SATURDAY. GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTY, WPC HAS MAINTAINED A SLIGHT RISK  
FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PARTS OF ORANGE COUNTY AND PASSAIC  
COUNTIES WITH AND MARGINAL RISK FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE AREA ON  
THURSDAY. FRIDAY ALSO CARRIES A MARGINAL RISK FOR THE ENTIRE AREA.  
 
DRY WEATHER IS EXPECTED BY MIDDAY SATURDAY WITH THE LOW EXITING TO  
THE NORTHEAST AND HIGH PRESSURE GRADUALLY BEGINNING TO TAKE OVER.  
 

 
   
LONG TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/
 
 
ANOTHER SHORTWAVE AND ASSOCIATED SURFACE COLD FRONT MOVES ACROSS  
THE AREA SATURDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY SUNDAY MORNING WITH CANADIAN  
HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING INTO ITS WAKE AND GRADUALLY RISING HEIGHTS.  
 
THE HIGH WILL KEEP CONDITIONS DRY THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT. THE NEXT  
CHANCE OF PRECIP COMES ON TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY WITH THE  
APPROACH OF THE NEXT LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM.  
 
TEMPERATURES THROUGH THE LONG TERM WILL REMAIN AT OR SLIGHTLY  
ABOVE NORMAL WITH HIGHS IN THE 70S.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /14Z THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY/
 
 
AN COLD FRONT NEARBY STALLS NEAR OR JUST NORTHWEST OF NYC THIS  
AFTERNOON. LOW PRESSURE TRAVELS ALONG THE FRONT TONIGHT INTO FRIDAY.  
 
MAINLY A VFR FORECAST THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON, WITH SHOWERS MOVING  
INTO THE AREA AFTER 18Z FOR NYC AND AREAS TO THE NORTH AND WEST.  
SHOWERS BECOME MORE WIDESPREAD, AND CONDITIONS FALL TO MVFR/IFR  
AFTER 00Z. SOME OF THE SHOWERS MAY BE MODERATE TO LOCALLY HEAVY  
TONIGHT AND INTO FRIDAY MORNING.  
 
MAINLY LIGHT WINDS AT MANY OF THE TERMINALS THROUGH MIDDAY. S/SE  
WINDS TO DEVELOP AT THE COASTAL TERMINALS WITH SOME LOCATIONS AT  
TIMES CLOSER TO A TRUE SEABREEZE INTO THIS AFTERNOON. THERE IS SOME  
UNCERTAINLY AS TO HOW FAR SOUTH THE COLD FRONT GETS THIS EVENING,  
BUT IS CURRENTLY FORECAST TO STALL NEAR OR JUST NORTHWEST OF THE NYC  
TERMINALS. WINDS WILL LIKELY VARY FROM N/NE TO E MAINLY UNDER 10KT  
OR LESS THAN 5 KT ACROSS THE BOUNDARY. WINDS TONIGHT INTO FRIDAY  
MORNING MAY BE LIGHT AND VARIABLE.  
 
...NY METRO (KEWR/KLGA/KJFK/KTEB) TAF UNCERTAINTY...  
 
MULTIPLE WIND SHIFTS POSSIBLE TODAY WITH TIMING VARYING BY 1-2  
HOURS. WIND SPEEDS GENERALLY LESS THAN 10 KT.  
 
LOW CHANCE OF A FEW SHOWERS EARLIER THAN INDICATED BY PROB30  
GROUPS IN TAFS THIS AFTERNOON.  
   
OUTLOOK FOR 12Z FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY
 
 
FRIDAY: MVFR OR LOWER IN MODERATE TO HEAVY SHOWERS. LOW CHANCE OF A  
THUNDERSTORM.  
 
SATURDAY: MAINLY VFR, EXCEPT MVFR OR LOWER POSSIBLE ISOLATED SHOWERS.  
 
SUNDAY AND MONDAY: VFR.  
 
DETAILED INFORMATION, INCLUDING HOURLY TAF WIND COMPONENT FORECASTS,  
CAN BE FOUND AT: HTTPS:/WWW.WEATHER.GOV/ZNY/N90  
 

 
   
MARINE
 
 
WEAK PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL MAINTAIN SUB-SCA CONDITIONS THROUGH  
EARLY FRI. IT'S POSSIBLE WE SEE MARGINAL SCA CONDITIONS ON AT  
LEAST OCEAN WATERS AS LOW PRESSURE TRACKS THROUGH REGION LATE FRI  
INTO SAT ALONG WITH WIDESPREAD RAINFALL.  
 
SUB-SCA CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED ON THE AREA WATERS SATURDAY NIGHT  
THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK WITH A WEAK PRESSURE GRADIENT OVER  
THE AREA.  
 

 
   
HYDROLOGY
 
 
WIDESPREAD MODERATE TO LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL IS POSSIBLE THURSDAY  
AFTERNOON INTO FRIDAY NIGHT. TOTAL RAINFALL AMOUNTS WILL BE 1-2",  
BUT COULD BE LOCALLY HIGHER FOR AREAS NORTH AND WEST OF NYC. FLOOD  
IMPACTS ARE EXPECTED TO BE MINOR FOR MOST, LIMITED TO ONLY LOW-  
LYING, POOR DRAINAGE, NUISANCE ISSUES. WE COULD SEE ISOLATED FLASH  
FLOOD IMPACTS LATE THURSDAY INTO THURSDAY NIGHT FOR PARTS OF THE FAR  
INTERIOR NORTH AND WEST OF NYC WHERE BANDED PRECIPITATION COULD SET  
UP GIVEN EXISTING WET SOILS AND HIGHER STREAM LEVELS FROM PRIOR  
RAINFALL. FLOOD WATCHES MAY BE NEEDED FOR SOME OF THESE AREAS, BUT  
GIVEN THE DISAGREEMENT ON PLACEMENT OF HIGHEST QPF, CONFIDENCE IS  
TOO LOW FOR A FLOOD WATCH, AT THIS TIME.  
 

 
   
OKX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
CT...NONE.  
NY...NONE.  
NJ...NONE.  
MARINE...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
SYNOPSIS...BC/BR  
NEAR TERM...JMC/BR  
SHORT TERM...BR  
LONG TERM...BC  
AVIATION...JE  
MARINE...BC/BR  
HYDROLOGY...BC/BR  
 
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