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FXUS63 KGLD 071733  
AFDGLD  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GOODLAND KS  
1033 AM MST SAT NOV 7 2009  
   
DISCUSSION  
 
223 AM MST SAT NOV 7 2009  
 
MAIN FORECAST PROBLEM WILL BE CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION SUNDAY NIGHT  
INTO MONDAY FOLLOWED BY HOW MUCH TO COOL MAXES OFF THE NEXT THREE  
DAYS...ESPECIALLY ON MONDAY. SATELLITE SHOWING THAT MID/UPPER RIDGE  
THAT WAS OVER OUR AREA HAS BEEN FLATTENED AND PUSHED EAST. FAST  
WESTERLY FLOW IS IN PLACE FROM THE CENTRAL PACIFIC INTO THE CENTRAL  
PORTION OF THE COUNTRY. ONE STRONG SHORTWAVE TROUGH PUSHING ACROSS  
SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA WITH ANOTHER ONE MOVING INTO THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST. AS OF 06Z COLD FRONT HAS PUSHED INTO NORTHERN WYOMING  
AND THROUGH MOST OF SOUTH DAKOTA.  
 
AT JET LEVEL...MODELS INITIALIZED WELL ON THE STRONG JET SEGMENT  
ACROSS THE NORTHWEST AND NORTH CENTRAL PORTION OF THE COUNTRY. AT MID  
LEVELS...MODELS INITIALIZED WELL AGAIN. AT LOW LEVELS...MODELS  
HAVING A REALLY BAD TIME IN DEPICTING SURFACE WIND/PRESSURE FIELD IN  
ADVANCE OF THE FRONT. THEY ALSO APPEAR TO BE A LITTLE TOO FAR SOUTH  
WITH THE FRONT. OVERALL THE ECMWF DID THE BEST. THE UKMET AND ECMWF  
ARE HANDLING THE LOW LEVEL TEMPERATURE FIELD THE BEST. CONSIDERING  
WHAT THE ANALYSIS IS SHOWING...WILL BE BASING THIS FORECAST MOSTLY  
ON THE ECMWF.  
 
TODAY/TONIGHT...A WEAK PIECE OF THE UPPER JET STARTS OVER THE  
NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE FORECAST AREA AND THEN QUICKLY MOVES AWAY.  
THIS MAY BRING SOME CLOUDS EARLY ON. OTHERWISE MAIN JET AXIS  
REMAINS WELL NORTH OF THE AREA. NOT SURE HOW COOLING WILL RECEIVE  
TODAY. SERIES OF PREFRONTAL TROUGHS IN ADVANCE OF FRONT. MAIN  
COOLING INITIALLY MAY BE JUST BECAUSE OF THE UNFAVORABLE SURFACE  
WIND DIRECTION. MSAS 3 HOUR PRESSURE CHANGE ANALYSIS INDICATES THAT  
MOST OF THE BIGGER PRESSURE RISES ARE STAYING WELL NORTH AND ARE  
MOVING MORE WEST TO EAST. ALSO FLOW ALOFT REMAINS RATHER STRONG  
FROM WEST TO SOUTHWEST WHICH WILL SERVE ENHANCE THE LEE TROUGH.  
 
SO A SLOWER ARRIVAL OF THE FRONT/MAIN COOLING LOOKS TO BE THE WAY TO  
GO. EVEN DESPITE THAT...NUMERICAL GUIDANCE LOOKS WARM. INTERESTING  
LOW TEMPERATURE FORECAST. WHATEVER BOUNDARY PUSHES THROUGH TODAY...  
LIFTS BACK TO THE NORTH INITIALLY AND THEN SURGES BACK SOUTH LATE IN  
THE NIGHT. DOWNSLOPE WINDS SHOULD KEEP WARM...ESPECIALLY IN THE  
SOUTHEAST HALF.  
 
SUNDAY...THE SOUTHWEST HALF OF THE AREA WILL NOT SEE THE FRONT MOVE  
THROUGH UNTIL 18Z AND AFTER. THERE IS INDICATIONS THERE COULD BE A  
LOT OF HIGH LEVEL CLOUD COVER...THICKEST IN THE AFTERNOON. COOLED  
OFF THE NORTHWEST HALF AND WARMED UP THE SOUTHEAST PORTION. TENDED  
TO STAY BELOW GUIDANCE WHICH WAS THE 2 METER.  
 
SUNDAY NIGHT/MONDAY...THE NAM AND UKMET ARE MORE AMPLIFIED WITH THE  
INCOMING TROUGH AND FURTHER SOUTH WITH THE MAIN JET AXIS MOVING INTO  
THE AREA ON SUNDAY NIGHT...WITH THE UKMET FURTHEST SOUTH. THE GFS IS  
MORE LIKE THOSE TWO MODELS BUT IS FURTHER NORTH WITH THE ECMWF  
FURTHEST NORTH. THE NAM PUTS AREA IN LEFT FRONT QUADRANT WITH  
POSSIBLE COUPLED RIGHT REAR QUADRANT OF THE NORTHERN JET. THE GFS HAS  
THE AREA IN A RIGHT REAR QUADRANT LATE IN THE NIGHT.  
 
THIS SAME TREND CONTINUES THROUGH THE DAY. THE NAM AND GFS KEEP THE  
AREA IN A LEFT FRONT QUADRANT OF THE JET...WHICH IS NOT TOO STRONG...  
THROUGH MOST OF THE DAY. THE UKMET AND ESPECIALLY THE ECMWF KEEP THE  
MAIN JET LIFT WELL NORTH. CONSIDERING THE PROGRESSIVE FLOW ALOFT  
LIKE THE FLATTER FURTHER NORTH SOLUTIONS. UPPER AIR ANALYSIS  
INDICATES A DRY AIR MASS UPSTREAM AT MID LEVELS AND CONSIDERING THE  
FLOW ALOFT...WHAT MOISTURE THERE IS WILL GET RUNG OUT BY THE  
MOUNTAINS. ALSO A SERIES OF SURFACE TROUGHS/FRONTS AND RESULTING  
SURFACE WIND FLOW WILL ALLOW FOR LITTLE IF ANY LOW LEVEL MOISTURE  
RETURN. FORECAST POINT SOUNDINGS WOULD CONFIRM WHAT REALITY IS NOW  
INDICATING. SO REDUCED POPS ACROSS THE BOARD...ESPECIALLY ON  
MONDAY...AND ADDED SPRINKLES. THE BEST LIFT...AVAILABLE MOISTURE...  
AND QPF FAVOR THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE AREA...AND CONFIGURED THE  
POPS THAT WAY. IF CANADIAN VERIFIES WILL RECEIVE NO PRECIPITATION.  
 
NO MATTER HOW MUCH PRECIPITATION OCCURS...LOOK TO HAVE THICK CLOUD  
COVER AND NORTH TO NORTHEAST WINDS. MAXES FROM NEAR 50 TO MAYBE 55  
LOOK TO BE REASONABLE.  
 
MONDAY NIGHT...CLOUDS WILL CLEAR AND WINDS WILL BECOME LIGHT...  
ESPECIALLY IN THE EAST HALF. THAT SUPPORTS GOING TOWARD THE COOLER  
GUIDANCE.  
 
NO CHANGES PLANNED BEYOND THIS PERIOD. THANKS TO ALL FOR  
COLLABORATION  
 
BULLER  
 
   
AVIATION  
 
1027 AM MST SAT NOV 7 2009  
 
FOR THE 18Z TAFS...VFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL THROUGHOUT THE VALID  
PERIOD. WINDS WILL UNDERGO A GRADUAL SHIFT THROUGH THE PERIOD...LIGHT  
FROM THE EAST/SOUTHEAST THIS AFTERNOON TO SOUTHWEST DURING THE OVERNIGHT  
HOURS...BEFORE BECOMING NORTH/NORTHWESTERLY AROUND THE 15G20KT RANGE  
AFTER ABOUT 15Z SUNDAY MORNING BEHIND A SURFACE COLD FRONT PASSAGE.  
 
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GLD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
KS...NONE.  
NE...NONE.  
CO...NONE.  
 
 
 
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