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FXUS63 KTOP 202350  
AFDTOP  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TOPEKA KS  
550 PM CST FRI NOV 20 2009  
   
UPDATE
 
 
UPDATE FOR 0Z AVIATION.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
SEE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION.  
 

 
   
AVIATION
 
 
HAVENT CHANGED MUCH FROM PREVIOUS FORECASTS...WITH A SLOW DOWNTURN  
EXPECTED THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT...THOUGH CONFIDENCE IN  
SPECIFIC TIMING IS LOW. TEMPS ALREADY FALLING OF QUICKLY...AND  
WILL BRING MVFR CONDITIONS IN EARLIER AS A RESULT. DEEP MOISTURE  
TO THE SOUTH MAY KEEP LIFR TO IFR RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE THROUGH  
MUCH OF THE DAY SATURDAY...AND TRENDED THIS WAY. FORECAST  
SOUNDINGS STILL SUPPORT FG DEVELOPMENT BEFORE STRATUS...THOUGH  
RECENT IR IMAGERY AND OBS NOT FAR SOUTH SHOWING SOME VFR STRATUS  
ALREADY DEVELOPING.  
 
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PREV DISCUSSION
 
/ISSUED 306 PM CST FRI NOV 20 2009/  
 
DISCUSSION...  
 
SHORT TERM (THROUGH SATURDAY)...  
 
THE PRIMARY FORECAST CONCERN IN THE SHORT TERM IS THE POSSIBILITY OF  
DENSE FOG ONCE AGAIN LATE TONIGHT AND INTO SATURDAY MORNING.  
 
THE CENTRAL PLAINS ARE CURRENTLY TRAPPED BETWEEN STORM SYSTEMS AS A  
SIGNIFICANT RAIN MAKER IS IN PLACE OVER TEXAS...THE TROUGH PRODUCING  
OUR WET WEATHER EARLIER THIS WEEK HAS MOVED OFF TO THE NORTHEAST...  
AND A LARGE TROUGH IS NOW MOVING ON TO NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE WEST  
COAST. AT THE SURFACE A BROAD AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE IS SITUATED  
ACROSS NORTHERN KANSAS...PROVIDING DRY SINKING AIR...LIGHT  
WINDS...AND CLEAR SKIES THIS AFTERNOON.  
 
THE LIGHT WINDS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. HIGH  
CLOUDS SHOULD BE CONFINED TO SOUTHEASTERN PORTIONS OF KANSAS...SO  
RADIATIONAL COOLING WILL BE STRONG OVER THE I-35 CORRIDOR AND POINTS  
NORTH AND WEST. FORECAST SOUNDINGS INDICATE THAT A STRONG INVERSION  
WILL FORM OVER THESE AREAS AND TEMPS WILL FALL BELOW THE CROSSOVER  
TEMPERATURE AND ESSENTIALLY SHOULD REACH 100 PERCENT RH THROUGH THE  
LOWEST 1000 FEET BY EARLY MORNING. FOG WILL LIKELY DEVELOP WITH SOME  
DENSE FOG POSSIBLE NEAR SUNRISE. ANTICIPATE THE DEPTH OF MOISTURE TO  
INCREASE FROM SOUTH TO NORTH OVERNIGHT WHICH MAY PROMOTE ADDITIONAL  
LOW STRATUS AND FOG DEVELOPMENT. CONFIDENCE IN THE OVERALL DENSITY  
OF FOG...AND LOCATION OF POTENTIAL DENSE FOG IS NOT HIGH AT THE  
MOMENT SO HAVE HELD OFF ON ISSUING A DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL THE  
DETAILS SORT THEMSELVES OUT A LITTLE BETTER.  
 
SATURDAY TEMPERATURES WILL BE MILD ONCE AGAIN...BUT CLOUD COVER WILL  
BE MORE PREDOMINANT THAN TODAY. CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE THE FOG WILL  
LIFT INTO A STRATUS DECK AND PERSIST THROUGH A GOOD PART OF THE DAY  
WITH MOISTURE ADVECTION ALOFT FROM THE SOUTH. GFS IS ATTEMPTING TO  
OUTPUT SOME LIGHT PRECIP...BUT LIFT APPEARS MARGINAL AND OVERALL  
MOISTURE DEPTH IS LACKING. MAY SEE A BIT OF DRIZZLE BUT DO NOT  
EXPECT ACCUMULATING PRECIP.  
 
BARJENBRUCH  
 
LONG TERM (SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY)...  
 
SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY NIGHT...AN UPPER LEVEL TROUGH OVER THE  
WESTERN CONUS WILL FILL AS IT MOVES EAST ACROSS THE PLAINS.  
LOW-LEVEL WAA OF RESIDUAL MOISTURE WILL CAUSE DRIZZLE AND AREAS OF  
FOG TO FORM SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY MORNING. THERE MAY BE ENOUGH  
ASCENT AHEAD OF THE WEAKENING UPPER TROUGH FOR ISOLATED RAIN SHOWERS  
OR SPRINKLES THROUGH THE DAY SUNDAY. SUNDAY HIGHS WILL BE DEPENDENT  
ON CLOUD COVER...IF SKIES BECOME PARTLY CLOUDY DURING THE AFTERNOON THEN  
HIGHS MAY BE IN THE MID TO UPPER 50S. HOWEVER...IF WE KEEP THE LOW  
STRATUS THROUGH THE DAY THEN HIGHS WILL BE MUCH COOLER...MAY ONLY  
SEE THE UPPER 40S TO AROUND 50.  
 
MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT...A SECOND UPPER LEVEL TROUGH WILL MOVE  
ONSHORE ACROSS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND DIG SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE  
PLAINS. THE 12Z RUN OF THE EC DIGS THE 5H TROUGH FARTHER WEST ACROSS  
THE HIGH PLAINS LATE MONDAY AFTERNOON THEN LIFTS THE AMPLIFIED UPPER  
TROUGH EAST AND NORTHEAST ACROSS THE STATE OF KS. MEANWHILE...THE  
12Z GFS DIGS THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH ACROSS THE CENTRAL  
PLAINS...SOUTHEAST INTO THE MID MS RIVER VALLEY. THE 12Z RUN OF THE  
NAM LOOKS TO BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE EC AND GFS SOLUTIONS. IF THE EC  
SOLUTION WERE TO VERIFY WE WOULD HAVE A BETTER CHANCE FOR RAIN  
MONDAY AFTERNOON...CHANGING OVER TO SNOW THROUGH THE NIGHT  
ACROSS THE NORTHERN COUNTIES OF THE CWA...THOUGH THE BEST TROWAL SET  
UP WOULD BE NORTH OF THE CWA ACROSS EASTERN NE. THE GFS SOLUTION  
WOULD BE MUCH DRIER WITH THE MOST OF THE FORCING AND ASCENT  
REMAINING NORTH AND EAST OF THE CWA. THE NAM MODEL SOLUTION SHOWS  
THE UPPER TROUGH DIGGING SOUTHEAST ACROSS NORTHERN KS...SO THERE  
WOULD BE A BETTER CHANCE FOR RAIN POSSIBLY MIXING WITH SNOW ACROSS  
THE NORTHERN COUNTIES OF THE CWA LATE MONDAY NIGHT. I PLACED IN A MIX OF  
RAIN AND SNOW ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL KS MONDAY NIGHT IN CASE THE NAM  
AND EC CONTINUE TO CONVERGE ON THEIR CURRENT SOLUTIONS. HIGHS ON TUESDAY  
WILL ONLY REACH THE MID 40S TO LOWER 50S DUE TO CLOUD COVER AND  
PRECIP CHANCES.  
 
THE END OF NEXT WEEK COULD BE TURNING SHARPLY COOLER AS BOTH THE EC  
AND GFS SHOW A LONGER WAVE LENGTH UPPER LEVEL TROUGH DEVELOPING  
ACROSS THE CENTRAL CONUS. IF WE KEEP NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT WE MAY NOT  
SEE MUCH IN THE WAY OF PRECIPITATION DURING THIS PERIOD. HIGHS  
WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY WILL BE IN THE MID 40S TO AROUND 50 WITH  
OVERNIGHT LOWS IN THE MID 20S TO LOWER 30S.  
 
GARGAN  
 

 
   
TOP WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
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